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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:there will be starvation? Surely it would be: there will be adequate food no starvation
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Grape posted:Do upper class RP using English conservatives actually think of themselves as macho? Because that is obscenely sad if so. I'm pretty sure most anyone who considers masculinity a virtue thinks of himself as a man's man. That one Preacher panel, etc etc.
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Nov 22, 2018 08:56
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Cerv posted:You might count Greenland Greenland and the Faroe Islands are probably the closest you'll get, since they're technically not members of the Union any European trade deals, but they're treated as regions of Denmark with regards to free movement, and it probably carries over to trade as well. Then there's a couple states like Switzerland and Norway, which aren't part of the Union, but are party to the Free Trade Association.
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Nov 30, 2018 10:12
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Superanos posted:So does this make Hard Brexit the only thing that can happen? Nobody is able to do any kind of a brexit deal because the different parts of parliament hate each other and you've already started the article 50 leave process. Some EU courts threw them a bone a week or so back and said that the UK would technically be allowed to revoke article 50 on their own without giving EU members the power to veto it. I don't think anyone in the May government noticed.
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An ironic white supremacist is still a white supremacist hth
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Dec 8, 2018 10:17
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Glenn Quebec posted:Saw some photos on BBC of people burning the EU flag....I don't understand the psyche of the British right now. Like, fine, you want out of the EU but what did they do precisely that made you mad enough to burn their flag? You know how Donald Trump ran on the platform on blaming all the ills of capitalism on Obamas and Mexicans? The EU are Britain's Obamas and Mexicans.
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Dec 11, 2018 11:42
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Raskolnikov38 posted:oh then corbyn should just campaign on "the brexit we were sold on is a lie, i'll cancel it" Jezza's formal stance is "I'll only accept a Brexit that accomplishes everything the leavers promised us." Which can either be interpreted as he'd cancel Brexit wholesale because that's obviously impossible, or he'd work towards the softest Brexit possible, however soft that'd end up, and go with that, were he to be put in charge. It's shifty and hedge-betty, but he does have to deal with this: MikeCrotch posted:1/4 to a 1/3 of labour voters voted leave and don't think they were lied to
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Dec 14, 2018 10:41
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Coohoolin posted:The best one is when they casually decided to flood a couple of Welsh villages to make a water source for Liverpool. Did they all get new houses; in most cases much nicer ones?
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Dec 30, 2018 11:10
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JFairfax posted:which is why not having a 2nd referendum be to approve or reject a deal is loving idiocy. May was never going to hold a referendum for her deal. Why on earth would she? Brexit only won by a narrow margin, and only by virtue of promising that the UK would maintain every advantage of being a EU member while also saving more money than they'd ever spent on membership and getting rid of all the foreigners. A referendum on a specific deal would necessarily do worse than a vote in parliament. A second referendum would either do absolutely nothing, or end up with Remain winning, neither of which is of any use to May.
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Jan 16, 2019 10:46
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Honj Steak posted:I remember reading about some people having vested financial interests in Brexit happening. Do you know examples and how this could even work at all? I can't come up with any examples short of people literally placing bets on Brexit happening. The funniest example is that 200 million pounds were earmarked for shipping companies to take on some of the burden of transport in the case of Brexiting with no trade deal in place. 14 of those went to a company that was created just to siphon off some of that government dime, owns no ships, and whose Terms of Service are entirely based around pizza delivery. There's a ton of grifts like this already happening, most of them a bit more subtle, but a huge chunk of the treasury is inevitably going to end up in private pockets due to a mix of government incompetence and deliberate embezzlement. The pizza ferry services and constant public statements like "there will be adequate food (no we will not explain why we believe this or show any preparations we've made to ensure it)," "ok maybe we won't get broccoli but you can bet the nation will be able to live off rice and beans" have also made it clear that any Brexit deal will result in massive shortages, so loads of people with capitalist tendencies have begun amassing stockpiles of food and products that they intend to sell to impoverished Brits at a huge markup.
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Jan 17, 2019 11:53
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You laugh, but have you ever tried to negotiate with someone while holding a gun to your own temple? They will be totally in your power.
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Jan 22, 2019 17:11
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Just so I don’t misunderstand this, removing the backstop means North Ireland gets a hard border on day 1 of Brexit, right? Unless a border deal is figured out before then, which, lol, it’d still be May in charge of negotiating.
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Jan 26, 2019 12:27
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alphabettitouretti posted:Check out this response from the piece of poo poo responsible for that article: https://www.quickloans.co.uk/quick-news/response-to-the-jail-for-debtors-article You know, for some reason I'd like to think Payday loaners at least would have the decency to be ashamed of their business, but in retrospect it's rather obvious that their entire narrative would be that loan sharks are the real victims of poverty.
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Jan 26, 2019 16:41
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Ghost Leviathan posted:This is a Paradox games joke I presume? Though I half wonder if it has historical precedent. History is nuts. And also picturing it being the Irish throwing a huge kegger. Yeah. I'm pretty sure half the balance feedback in the Europa Universalis series is sourced exclusively from ways people find to conquer the entire Ottoman Empire using only the sad remains of post-fall Byzantium.
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Jan 26, 2019 19:06
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Der Meister posted:has the eu given this March as the final deadline or could they punt it some more Britain set the deadline themselves, because they invoked Article 50 in March 2016. The EU has said they'll extend it in the wake of a UK election, and they might also extend it in the case of a good faith negotiation which can still be tied up before the EU elections in May, but with Theresa May in charge it's very much a hard deadline. The EU has also issued a ruling that the UK can unilaterally rescind Article 50 at any time before Brexit and just stay in the EU with no further damage.
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Jan 27, 2019 23:21
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There's no way French wouldn't be an official EU language if we had to get a new one, and nobody wants that.
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Jan 28, 2019 08:51
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Broken Cog posted:Genuinely curious, what do these people think they're getting out of this? Basic workers' rights, social benefits, all that jazz everybody below a certain income level wants. They just also want to deny it to the nebulous Others, because capitalism maintains that there must be an oppressed class in order for others to prosper, and they keep getting told that their prosperity is just around the corner, the boot just needs to be put on the neck of one more marginalized group first.
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Jan 28, 2019 13:35
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An insane mind posted:But wasn't winning leave his moment in the sun, where he had the chance to make ukip dictate policy for years and he just went lol no I'm out. I am feeling really dumb here in not understanding the why and I'm sorry if I'm coming off as disingenuous. He doesn't actually want to dictate policy, because then he'd have to reveal that he had no one's best interests at heart outside of himself and his fellow grifters. Trump's presidency has been an absolute disaster for the working class, and Farage wouldn't have the backing of the US media and political apparatus. May's coalition is only holding together because the opposition is actually left-of-center.
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Jan 28, 2019 13:50
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Samurai Sanders posted:I want to read an interview or something with someone who called the police. What kind of person are they? If I were to hazard a guess: hakimashou posted:yowzers
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Jan 31, 2019 08:53
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Ohtsam posted:Can the queen dissolve parliament and force a general election anymore? I'm not sure if that's an actual power she has, but if she did it'd fall under the heading of "powers that technically exist but would immediately be followed by the abolishment of the monarchy if practised" so long as the parliament that's loving up the country still has the backing of a significant chunk of the electorate. Then again, going by the last couple months of Theresa May clinging to power, it's entirely possible that no one can figure out the logistics of deposing the queen, even if she pissed off all of Britain.
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Feb 1, 2019 15:42
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Vitamin P posted:And the democrats. Though there are alarmingly few of us apparently. laffo get out of here The referendum was a goddamn joke and there's no "will of the people" high road you can take to support it. An actual democratic referendum would pit whatever pitiful deal May can scrape together against remain. Zulily Zoetrope has issued a correction as of 12:23 on Feb 3, 2019 |
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Feb 3, 2019 12:20
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Jose posted:this is one of the real ones Laffo, for some reason I thought they would have actual Brits on staff. Of course it's just the US toilet paper staff creating a ton of accounts, because finding actual local youth Tories to run the sites would betray the TP ideal of always doing the dumbest possible thing. COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:This is one of those things where they've shrunken the face but kept the head the same size, right? It's usually more exaggerated, but the subtlety of it here is pretty funny. That's Charlie Kirk's actual face; the others have just been edited to scale.
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Feb 3, 2019 17:39
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If you told me those were photoshopped faces and parody texts I would 100% have believed it.
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Feb 4, 2019 09:31
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Jose posted:completely destroying local industry to own the libs The true beauty of Brexit is that the clowns in charge keep bait-and-switching which arbitrary levers they'll pull to try to contain the damage, so no one but the career criminals in charge will have any idea where they'll be at any point in the years to come. I mean, the safest bet would probably be that the tories default to "austerity, but criminally incompetent and incompetently criminal," but I sure as hell wouldn't bet my life savings on it.
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Feb 5, 2019 14:04
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Avirosb posted:With Brexit, every day is a party I know the UK is fiendishly devoted to its own destruction, but I'm pretty sure the EU already said it wasn't going to extend A50 just so the UK could gently caress with their elections. This seems like overkill.
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Feb 9, 2019 23:40
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mike12345 posted:is pussy british slang for some kind of meat, or are we talking oral sex The dog meat ban will also outlaw eating cat meat. "Eating pussy" could be interpreted as either the consumption of feline flesh or the act of cunnilingus. Since the law will ban the former, the poster is suggesting that, due to the double meaning, it would also ban the latter. This is a "pun;" a joke which relies on a word or phrase having multiple meanings and conflating them.
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Feb 13, 2019 14:43
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I got Newcastle-Upon-Tyne and Middlesborough. I tried to scroll down the list of telltale words, but none of them individually seemed to peg northern England.
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Feb 15, 2019 13:00
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kaleedity posted:mostly totally ignorant on uk happenings, but can someone give a rundown on the corbyn antisemitism thing. Is it mostly "Corbyn is leftist and interacted with some less favorable brown people that one time" like it sounds like or is it something else Corbyn specifically is just being attacked for being anti-Israel, and I think he once used an anti-Semitic trope when criticizing bankers and apologized once he was told it had a second meaning. There's fair criticism of the Labour party for being too tolerant of anti-Semitism in their ranks, but the right-wing parties and UK media harping on it are real usual suspects who are incidentally supported by all the open nazis and white supremacists, which should be no reason for concern.
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Feb 18, 2019 16:21
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Raccooon posted:When did trope become the term over sterotype. Feel like I have never seen it used that way until the Omar stuff happened. A stereotype is a presumption about individuals, while a trope is a narrative device, as I understand it. I've always used both terms. A stereotype would be comparing someone to the happy merchant while the Zionist octopus having a tentacle in every government on earth would be a trope.
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Glenn Quebec posted:Lol the UK has concluded deals with 7 out of the 69 (and well less than what Fox said) and they are lmao what are they even going to be importing from the Faroe Islands? I guess you won't have to worry about getting access to all the mutton and luxury wool/salmon a 50k country can spare.
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What deal are they even voting on? The new one May "negotiated" with no backstop which the EU has already stated they will not accept? Because it's kind of a grim joke to refer to that as the meaningful vote.
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Feb 24, 2019 16:05
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prefect posted:I thought the EU was only going to allow a delay if there was an election. But I'm probably well behind the latest news. They downgraded it to "credible assurance that a deal will be finalized before the end of the delay" a while back and I think the latest report is "look, just give us any pretense that you're not stalling for time and we'll let you stall until you're able sort out your food/medicine situation." The hardline stance is from before anyone realized that nobody in charge has any idea what they're doing and has no problem killing off any amount of poors to serve their own grift/racism. Zulily Zoetrope has issued a correction as of 14:14 on Feb 26, 2019 |
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I have a friend who's an architect that specializes in sustainable infrastructure. She describes taking a train through the British countryside as one of the most harrowing experiences in her life.
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Don't forget that the party is also currently in the process of destroying the country for the gain of *checks notes* keeping brown and eastern european EU citizens from having free movement to the UK. Wait, uh, what actually happened here? The Eurotunnel took legal action to ensure they could ship medicine to the UK after Brexit, and the idiot in charge of trade deals is mad about it because  What legal action did they take, and why is he so mad about it? Zulily Zoetrope has issued a correction as of 09:38 on Mar 2, 2019 |
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Cerv posted:Info Cheers. Sometimes I think the idiocy of the Brexit crew is exaggerated for comedic effect, but then it turns out that, nope, it's exactly as stupid as people are saying. Zulily Zoetrope has issued a correction as of 11:59 on Mar 2, 2019 |
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Mar 2, 2019 11:57
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FMguru posted:Aren't there an alarming number of people who think "no deal" means "Brexit is called off, everything continues on as before, no changes"? No, that was just from a website poll, and most of those responses were probably internet jokesters. In an actual Gallup (or some equivalent) survey only ~1% of Brits were actually that far off. I forget the other responses, but most of them accurately described No Deal and the rest thought it meant an automatic extension of Article 50 or had it confused with May's deal or something of that nature.
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Do they not realize that anyone who is capable of accessing a non-Murdoch media outlet can see exactly what they're doing, or do they just not care?
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BrownianMotion posted:didn't an amendment pass on something that said "would not accept no deal under any circumstances" It just said that government wouldn't pursue No Deal; it's still the default option. It was basically just parliament yelling at May to stop threatening to No Deal out of spite if her own deal didn't pass, which as you can see has radically reshaped the entire playing field. COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Jimmy Savile was knighted JFairfax posted:He also received a knighthood from the Pope I think we've already established that everyone in charge knew, yes. Jel Shaker posted:I like how its a constitutional crisis when, you know, the 400 year old rules of parliament are followed correctly And not when the most downvoted proposal in parliamentary history is resubmitted with the exact same content but different margins and spacing the first time around. Zulily Zoetrope has issued a correction as of 10:55 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I wonder how much the media flattery blew up her own narcissistic image of self, or if it was always there. She was supposed to be the new iron lady, and now she's arguably the worst prime minister in history. You say that like those two statements contradict each other in any way.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:At the very least people should accept that a new referendum is necessary, when the government has proven itself completely incompetent in implementing the single most important policy change of your entire country. I think calling it the second referendum is giving too much credit the joke of a referendum all UK politics has been based around for a little over two years a little too much credit. They should b calling it a real referendum or the first referendum or something. Re-reading your post, you never actually used the word "second." Good show.
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