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PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

DynamicSloth posted:

The point isn't to win a defamation suit, it's to bring Scheer into the scandal. That doofus is so starved for attention he was happy to play right into it.

This may be news to you, but this is not making Andrew Scheer look bad.

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PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

DynamicSloth posted:

Yes but the Liberal messaging right now is mostly "What do you want, Scheer to be Prime Minister?" it's not an accident that they want him more involved in the story.

This is an all Liberal scandal, there's no need for him to pipe up and extra seriously demand Trudeau resign some more.

I understand what you're saying, but every new crumb of news that keeps this in the press is good for the Conservatives. The Liberals need to take steps to turn the page, but instead, everything they do pours more fuel on the fire.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Fashionable Jorts posted:

If only he had a gun to protect himself with.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011


Is this Canada's version of "Miss me yet?"

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Postess with the Mostest posted:

"Failing" kind of implies that it was possible that it was out of their control. What's a word for intentionally keeping a system less democratic in order to prevent parties to the left of you from getting any power?

Capitalism

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Wow! Co-Prime Minister Singh Bernier!

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011


:eyepop:

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Thoth! posted:

I don't understand how the gently caress so many nonessential public sector employees I meet are conservative and want to cut govt service spending.

Like I get the whole fygm thing runs deep but lol

There's a lot of the usual "my taxes" stuff, which dovetails nicely with having a secure, well-paying job, better than the average.

Going a bit deeper, most public sector workers deal with people who are the target of benefit programs, and so it's easy to fall into "I'm providing this service, and have a stable situation. Why don't these people just..." mental trap.

The Liberals are seen as the party of middle managers, so if you hate your boss, you'd be likely to align with their natural enemy.

And then factor in simple fygm as you say.

ETA: There's also a fair bit of leopards eating faces stuff going on. "Government spending is wasteful. (My boss and so on are incompetent.) But *my* department is indispensable. Surely, Dear Leader will see that."

PhilippAchtel has issued a correction as of 11:45 on Oct 24, 2019

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

vyelkin posted:

and meanwhile capitalism has determined that the optimal use of housing in many large urban centres is to sit empty accumulating value for overseas investors, or to be used as short-term airbnb rental housing for rich tourists lmao just lmao at how our lovely civilization deals with climate change the same way it deals with all other problems, by just shaving off the unlucky parts of society and deciding we don't care what happens to them as long as the rest of us keep living comfortably

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF_4EWSuzQY

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Was it in this thread or the other thread where someone recommended taking the Green Party and molding it into a pro-environmentalist, pro-worker party?

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Perhaps I'm being naive here, but maybe the display of a fabulously overpriced symbol often found in the homes of the wealthy over a location frequented by homeless people is part of the message?

After all, we're talking about the issue right now.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

I'm not saying it's a good use of money. :shrug:

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

I thought James Baud unsubbed, but I'm glad they didn't so I can see them get schooled on a day-to-day basis.

:thumbsup:

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Virtual Russian posted:

I feel like the Irvings owning like 10% of New Brunswick is pretty tangible and un-inflated.

Also hell yeah declare war on the number

Yeah, honestly not seeing the issue here.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Virtual Russian posted:

I've got a nine hour shift tomorrow, just dreading working all day for next to nothing. It makes a crappy job excruciating.

I'm sorry you're hurting. It's sad when the wrong people get hurt by job action. Hopefully, it doesn't go on much longer.

PhilippAchtel has issued a correction as of 21:49 on Jan 27, 2020

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Dreylad posted:

Thinking about all the times the modern US army crushed insurgent militias and won a war.

No kidding. These imbeciles have zero self-awareness.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

So are we hijacking the Green Party to be the standard barer of the progressive movement? I know it was presented as "one weird trick" no one was supposed to take seriously, but I have a few neurons that won't let that idea go.

No joke, if we started organizing, I'd be down.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

DariusLikewise posted:

https://twitter.com/trapdinawrpool/status/1221817845165842433?s=20

oh yea, the green party is truly the bastion of progressiveness in canada

Welp.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Live in Southern Ontario and want to knock doors and attend a Bernie rally on Sunday, March 8? If you live anywhere between Kitchener and Ann Arbor, I will pick you up. I'm thinking knock doors from either 9am or 12pm until 3pm and then attend the rally at 6pm.

No excuses, Canada goons!

PhilippAchtel has issued a correction as of 01:00 on Mar 7, 2020

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

I might be showing my ignorance here, but are these guys legit? Is this a new organization?

https://www.democraticsocialists.ca/

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Someone from the org answered a question on reddit, and they do seem to be new.

I'm skeptical too, as they ask for money for membership, but with all the publicity the DSA is getting in the States, I can understand why they might be forming this now.

I'll reach out to someone and see what response I get.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Virtual Russian posted:

Cross-posting from covid thread cause my day was bad. gently caress Grocery Stores

Horrible day at the grocery store. We had a bunch of rules on customer conduct to make things safe, but a few customers complained about the restrictions. So head office repealed these restrictions, its just a free for all now. Total chaos, no one knows what to do, morale plummeted. Even the store's second is openly talking about how the company is putting profits ahead of our safety. Someone brought up a walkout, but generally people need to work to survive.

Had a boy and girl come in today that couldn't be more than 6 and 10, telling us they were 10 and 14 (I work with kids a lot normally, they were not as old as they said), said they had to go for groceries alone, in PJs, because their whole family was sick and no one else could go. I dealt with them, and got management involved, as it sounded horrific. I was assured something would be done, but I later saw them walk out with bags of junk food. Another employee told me they helped them shop and pay, and then we just let them walk out of the store and walk home alone. Can't believe that was allowed to happen. The whole situation sounded hosed.

Just kinda haunting me right now.

That really sucks.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bitumen-wcs-wti-oil-1.5511386

I refuse to give away the title. Enjoy the big reveal!

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

https://twitter.com/tinytacotown/status/1267529894046597120?s=19

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

I'm thinking of moving to KW from the Toronto area. Is this a good deal?

https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/21934546/67-westmount-road-e-kitchener




Edit: Before people take this seriously, I don't want this house. It is a dump.

PhilippAchtel has issued a correction as of 00:00 on Jun 8, 2020

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

night danger posted:

It looks like it was abandoned in 1967 but some kindly neighbor kept up the lawn maintenance.

I posted the same house on reddit as a joke, and half the comments are "Hmm, with the right contractor, it might be a good deal. Similar houses have gone for more than 600k."

The real estate market here is hosed.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

https://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2020/06/29/toronto-city-council-votes-against-cutting-2021-police-budget-by-10-per-cent.html

quote:

Toronto city council votes against cutting 2021 police budget by 10 per cent

City council rejected a move to ask the Toronto police to cut its budget in 2021 by at least 10 per cent, following weeks of protests calling on them to defund the police.

Motions poised to be approved at the request of Mayor John Tory, which include requests for future alternative community responses to calls that don’t involve weapons, will actually see the police budget increase in the short-term by an annual $5 million in 2021 — if police fully implement body-worn cameras for all officers.

“What I’m asking you to do is show courage,” Coun. Josh Matlow said before most of his colleagues — 16 of 24 — voted to reject his motion to ask the police to cut its budget by at least 10 per cent in 2021.

“The evidence demonstrates that by investing proactively into the resiliency of our communities by helping our kids avoid picking up a gun in the first place rather than funding ways to arrest them and incarcerate them afterwards, by focusing on alternatives to policing where we can actually have trained professionals who know how to care for and support individuals who are in distress rather than escalate those situations like police officers can when the arrive with their uniforms and their weapons, is a better way to make our communities safer,” he said. “It protects people. It serves them better.”

Coun. Kristyn Wong-Tam, who worked with and backed Matlow’s motion, noted the increased likelihood of being shot or killed by police as a person of colour or with a mental illness, saying a system of anti-Black and other racism needs to be addressed and calls to defund the police have been misunderstood.

“The defund movement is really about asking all of us to re-imagine what public safety looks like,” she said.

Transformational change has not come despite a task force to reform the police under Tory’s administration, said Coun. Joe Cressy, who also supported Matlow’s motion. He said he was concerned the mayor’s motion contains “no clear targets” for the re-allocation of funds.

Coun. Gord Perks challenged the criticism that Matlow’s request was arbitrary.

“Every budget this mayor has brought forward started out with an arbitrary number — we will only increase property taxes at the rate of inflation, all of the services have to be adjusted to match that number,” said Perks. “And the reason given is that if we allowed any other number it would become unaffordable for homeowners who pay property taxes.

“So we’re prepared to use an arbitrary number to protect homeowners from property taxes, but we’re not prepared to do it when the issue is anti-Black racism, anti-Indigenous racism and the effects of policing on racialized Torontonians.”

Ahead of the vote, Tory said his proposals were meant to be a “comprehensive” series of reforms that if approved would “set in motion a process that should bring about the kind of change at the pace of change that is needed in response to the people who have marched in the street and have been in touch with us in our offices and so on.”

He characterized his recommendations as a more careful and thoughtful way of eventually reducing the police budget and achieving “fair change.”

The mayor’s allies largely backed him on his proposals and rejected Matlow’s requests.

“I don’t believe that this arbitrary cut to the police services board will get us to where we need to go,” his budget chief Coun. Gary Crawford said Monday, repeating a suggestion made by the mayor’s allies that a 10-per-cent cut would inevitably lead to more than 1,000 service members being laid off — despite layoffs not being the only way to cut costs.

Another executive member, Coun. James Pasternak, called the mayor’s plan “a roadmap for getting stuff done.

lol, they couldn't even reduce the budget by a measly ten percent.

Well, time for more protests, I guess.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

a primate posted:

he had earlier complained that cutting the budget would mean they can’t roll out body cameras to all officers so expect to hear that a bunch more

It's the same poo poo Biden tries to peddle in the States. I guess if you want reform* you actually have to increase budgets, you stupid protestors.


*they don't want "reform"

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

https://marxist.ca/article/lessons-of-the-regina-co-op-refinery-lockout

quote:

Ultimately, what was needed to win this lockout was escalation with the help of the broader labour movement. Unions and labour federations could have mobilized their members to create a massive blockade with thousands of people, not just members of Unifor. Sympathy strikes could have put massive pressure on FCL and energized workers across Canada, recognizing that the fight of the refinery workers to defend their pensions was a fight of the entire working class.

By bringing in workers not directly involved, the movement could have become a broader political struggle. In this way, it might not only have ended the lockout on terms favourable for Unifor 594—but increased class consciousness and made workers more aware of their own power. It could have inspired workers to fight back against attacks in other sectors, to go on the offensive against the bosses, and even to build general strikes to bring down unpopular governments.

The lack of such concrete measures to widen the struggle can be laid at the feet of the right-wing leaders of unions and labour federations, who lacked the perspective and will to escalate the fight. But as bosses ramp up their attacks against workers in the future, such ineffectual labour leaders will be pushed aside. The growing militancy of rank-and-file workers, exemplified by the members of Unifor 594, will inevitably find its reflection in a new generation of radical labour leaders.

:hmmyes:

There's an opportunity to reinforce class consciousness that hasn't existed for fifty years; we just have to be ready to seize it.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Attention KW goons:

I am in the early stages of putting together an organizing committee for a chapter of the Democratic Socialists of Canada for the region.

https://www.democraticsocialists.ca/

If you're interested or want to know more about the admittedly young organization, feel free to visit that site or get in touch with me here.

In particular, the podcast is quite good and will give you a good idea of what political aims the DSC is aiming for.

I'd purchase DMs, but it's not a great time to spend money on this site, so if I get some response here, I'll post my alternate email as a contact or we can connect over discord.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

mila kunis posted:

hmmmm

https://twitter.com/MykaConners/status/1232521581014011904

WHO IS JOE ROBERTS?

The domain owner of democraticsocialists.ca is listed as Joe Roberts, resident of London, having created the website January 15th of 2020.

On his Twitter page, Roberts is a vocal fan of Bernie Sanders’ candidacy for US president. His pinned tweet is an endorsement for Kate Graham, a candidate for the leadership of the Ontario Liberal Party. His profile picture on LinkedIn is himself, wearing a poppy while speaking from a lectern, with the American and Israeli flags behind him.

Roberts moved to Washington, DC in 2017, where he began working as Global Chief Advancement Officer for The Israel Project, a pro-Israel non-profit. (The Israel Project was formed in 2002 during the second intifada, in order to manage Israel’s public image while Palestinian rights were being violated. It closed in 2019.) Presumably while working for TIP, Roberts replied to a tweet by the State of Palestine twitter account. On June 22, 2017, @Palestine_UN tweeted: #Palestine elected vice-chair of Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination election! #CERD” Roberts, in his reply, said “#Antisemitism not high on their list of priorities.”

Yeah, this is a good catch, and something I read linked from this equally scathing article:

https://briarpatchmagazine.com/articles/view/show-me-the-socialists

So Joe being pro-Israel is definitely an issue, for the organization and for me personally. If the above quoted section was all I had to go on, I'd dismiss the org out of hand and look elsewhere.

The article I linked describes the DSC as a branding exercise more than a movement-building exercise, but then goes on to discuss the myriad ways socialists have failed to influence public opinion, policy, and party politics over the last fifty years, while smaller, local socialist orgs get mired in issues only relevant on a local level. Maybe a branding exercise that looks to the success of the DSA is precisely what's needed to jump start an openly socialist movement here? Also, it's worth noting that the DSC is working to develop a chapter presence and has a national convention planned for August of next year. I think there's reasons to think they really are trying to become a democratically-led organization and not just a social media presence.

While he is the national organizer, Joe is only one person in a growing org. I'm not going to ask any of you to listen to hours of the podcast, and delve into the org's facebook and twitter presence, but I have over the last few months because I was equally skeptical. What I've heard was enough to convince me that Joe's heart is in the right place on many issues other than Israel, and the org on the whole is worth tentative support.

But I chose to bring this here precisely because I wanted this kind of push back from CSPAM in particular, because while this place is cynical as hell, on the whole its instincts tend to be right. So what do you think?

PhilippAchtel has issued a correction as of 00:59 on Jul 12, 2020

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Virtual Russian posted:

I'm with everyone else that is skeptical, but I also always make a point of meeting people on the left no matter the org. I once sat through a Socialist Fightback meeting that included in an official capacity a twenty minute misinformed rant about the evils of post-modern theory.

I think people are completely right to be skeptical. I sat on this org for months, listening to who they had on the podcast and how they interviewed them, and watching their social media presence, because after all, they are a new and untested org.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

https://twitter.com/andrewglobal/status/1284121044702429189

So much for the tolerant left...

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011


Look, I mean I want to believe this is fake, but...

it's 2020.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

I'm moving forward with setting up an organizing committee for the DSC in Kitchener. I understand other people's concerns about Joe Roberts, but I think this is a good opportunity. I'll keep my guard up in any case.

Anyone who is interested in contributing, feel free to contact me.

I've also contacted the IWW about a local in the area, and while there is not one in Kitchener, we're apparently grouped with Hamilton. I'll probably be joining soon, and will let you know how that goes.

Well, that's my blog post.

Edit: Oh, I missed that officers from other unions can't join. Welp.

PhilippAchtel has issued a correction as of 13:38 on Aug 24, 2020

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Making it about what you are vs what you believe in is the kind of purity test that only serves to cleave people away from common cause, which the left time and again is wont to do

Material conditions very strongly influence behavior regardless of what beliefs people claim to hold in their heart of hearts.

Recognizing privilege is the absolute baseline for someone in higher strata expressing solidarity. Call that "purity" if you want, but the alternative is movements get co-opted and killed by moderate "allies" who won't accept any sort of shift in the status quo.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Killin_Like_Bronson posted:

Realize means receiving money. You've described a situation where I should feel happy for no reason other than abstract feels towards number up. Lmao.

You only realize gains from insurance when you make a claim. Until then it's just numbers on a paper.

Yet would you claim that the difference between having and not having insurance is unsubstantial because it's an abstract difference?

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Killin_Like_Bronson posted:

Those are really not analogous, but to give you an answer, I think that we give insurance companies free money to invest with as exchange for a service of providing coverage in case of calamity.

You're dodging the question. Just because an asset's value is abstract doesn't mean that mere possession of it can't improve your life even before you realize its value in concrete terms. That's the entire premise of insurance.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

I don't think owning a home makes someone an untouchable liberal, but in a society where the alternatives to home ownership are rent or homelessness. That's imputed rent which you earn even if you live in your asset, which in many countries is taxed as income.

Add to this the very high expectation of appreciation of home value above interest rates, and you own private property. You are a private property haver.

Now, we live in a society where security for your family is very hard to get outside private property ownership (one of the most corrosive aspects of our society actually), but it is what it is, and you have to admit the reality of your position in relation to others if you want to participate in the leftist project with any honesty.

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PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Killin_Like_Bronson posted:

How many Hail Marx's do I say in pennance for a home value of $200k in Alberta for a wage of $25/hour?

Ten.

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