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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

jabby posted:

I mean I don't doubt you could make a huge difference if you could efficiently hunt down and punish all the cops who displayed brutality/racism like we have seen in the videos. I just don't think that kind of action is remotely possible unless the system is first ripped apart and remade, and if you ever manage to get to that point these sorts of issues should have already stopped.

One further issue in doing this in the US is jurisdiction. Who's weeding out the bad apples in Bumfuck, Mississippi PD? It's not a federal body. At absolute best it's run by well known not racists the Mississippi state government. And you still need all 50 states to take it seriously even then which lol.

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

It's weird, I've mostly been ok (albeit with my concentration at work somewhat shot) but about once every week, often on a Sunday afternoon, I just curl up under my duvet in bed and just...cannot come out, for a couple of hours. Or get online or interact with the world or do anything other than hide under the covers and stare at the wall. I guess it could be worse?

Reading I do fine with. Been catching up on TV too, though I've tended to have a bias towards lighthearted stuff. For some reason computer gaming a lot less but maybe that's because the Good Screen is now also the Bad Screen since I'm working from home.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

floofyscorp posted:

Deep in the Appendices there's an explanation that Arabic people go in 'Other' so I imagine that's a large part of it.

Also Latin American/hispanic.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

communism bitch posted:

E: for example house is дом - "Dom" like domicile. Bicycle is вепосиред or "velocipede". Radio is радио - "radio". It's all loving English lol

I think you'll find that's mostly Latin/Greek... :hist101:

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Miftan posted:

I mean Yiddish has a ton of crossover with Russian/German and both those countries have had massive Jewish populations.

Yiddish is specifically mediaeval German welded to Hebrew isn't it?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

ThomasPaine posted:

My hatred of the American police and my love of the hardboiled alcoholic American detective trope pose an ideological contradiction inside of me that I don't think will ever be resolved.

Solution; watch Comrade Detective

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

Cracking open a covid one nine with the boys.

A Corona, obvs

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Cerv posted:

they can conference call to for debates but no proxy votes AFAIK. that's still for maternity cover only.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/03/mps-shielding-from-covid-19-allowed-proxy-vote-in-johnson-u-turn

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jose posted:

picking up a prescription yesterday i noticed that boots were selling them but a box was £35 ffs

To be fair the govt is specifically recommending the 'scarf round the face' sort of covering.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Maugrim posted:

Yeah I just read the actual article and it's mostly... Fine?

Seems like their strategy is go for headlines that the gammonati will broadly agree with and then propose some decent changes under cover of it.

Only works if you have a sympathetic media e: and is a poo poo strategy for the long term because the overton window is a thing

This is exactly what New Labour always used to do. As you say though - rhetoric matters. It's exactly how we end up with the next Tory government using the exact same rhetoric to justify doing the really bad things, because it becomes normalised.

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Jun 5, 2020

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

bionic vapour boy posted:

How the gently caress do you even fry eggs and not get even a little bit of colour around the edges? Vitamin P can jump in and call me a bougie for this but "actually waiting for your frying pan to heat up" doesn't cost a thing

Actually it'll cost you a penny or whatever in gas/leccy :science:

1930 - the last time the global economy was this hosed

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

escapegoat posted:

https://twitter.com/NWJK/status/1269628544281387008

Slavery was legal back then? Well that changes everything!

Actually it never was legal in Bristol or the rest of the UK (post 1066).

Edit: 37 Dalehouse Lane was my childhood home

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Jun 7, 2020

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I'm sorry, is lynching not a federal crime yet :psyduck:

I mean...lots of things aren't a federal crime. Murder, for example. Federal law is generally meant to cover inter-state crimes (or crimes occurring on directly United States-owned land).

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

Was it one of the Egyptian civilizations that believed that, or someone in the Levant/Mesopotamia?

I mean there wasn't really 'one of' the Egyptian civilisations that believed that in the ancient world, they're fairly famous for having one long continuous one for thousands of years pretty much til the Arabs rock up, or at least the Romans. But yeah, they'd do that. Check out what happened to my boy Akhenaten's gear after his death.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

There's the obvious ones, like if you cross state lines or murder a Federal official or member of the government, but there's some others that can be prosecuted federally like drug murders and murder during the robbery of a bank, even if you never personally left your state.

The bolded is what I meant by there having to be some kind of interstate connection, yeah. I'm curious what you can be prosecuted for federally if you, a native of Baltimore, perhaps a chap called Omar, off some other chap who's a native of Baltimore, in Baltimore, because he ripped off your stash?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

bessantj posted:

EDIT: Plus its not as if slavery has been consigned to history, it wasn't that long ago people were arrested in the U.K. for keeping slaves. I dread to think how many people are still enslaved in the U.K. today.

This is one of the things that annoys me about the whole 'modern day slavery' thing. The literal point and definition of slavery is that it is the legal ownership of human beings. If your slave escapes, goes to a copper, and you get banged up because of it, that is not slavery, it is false imprisonment. When it is slavery then the copper arrests the slave and returns him to you for a whipping. That's how you tell the difference.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

bessantj posted:

I'm comfortable calling it slavery because slavery can also be forced labour or labour without proper remuneration. Prison labour for example.

LEGALLY enforced labour, yes, I agree with you, and there is a reason the 13th amendment has the bit in it saying 'except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted' in it. That's the thing, though, having the State officially back and enforce the ownership of human beings is a uniquely evil thing to my mind and it cheapens the term to extend it further. We already have perfectly good terms for the other cases.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Strom Cuzewon posted:

And it's like....is this supposed to be making fun of him? Because this is badass.

I mean, we were the bad guys in that movie (to the extent of assigning us literal Nazi warcrimes) so probably not.

Edit:again? 1946. Fascism is defeated forever. Benign social democracy reigns forever more.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Coohoolin posted:

Churchill was also an antisemite who not only did nothing to address the British immigration system turning away Jewish refugees, he also had multiple opportunities to bomb or shut down Auschwitz

Given the accuracy of strategic bombing at the time, bombing Auschwitz would have been doing the Nazis' jobs for them.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008


This is bad for Jeremy..wait, what? *listens to earpiece* Keir Starmer

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Cerv posted:

massive news being snuck out today

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/12/brexit-uk-expected-to-backtrack-on-full-eu-border-checks

come January the government will not be enforcing border checks on goods coming into the country. which is obviously an open invitation to avoid any kind of import duty. cheap booze and fags for all!

blaming the additional impact of compliance being too much on business on top how they've been hit by the pandemic. but in reality they're just still totally unprepared to have the necessary infrastructure and staff to actually operate a border.
this goes back to May's insistence on leaving the single market / customs union, but not seriously prepare for that. and Johnson's government doubled down on that.

Isnt it no EXTRA checks aka the current status quo? We assume stuff coming from the EU is up to spec already sortafing

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Communist Thoughts posted:

yeah mp is how b is written a lot in greek

beta is pronounced as a v iirc, which is common, a lot of languages b is pronounced v

Only in modern Greek, which has switched all the pronunciations round. Lots of vowels have become 'e' too. You can tell because, for example, there's some classical play where sheep are described as going 'baaa baaa baaa' like they do but in modern Greek it would be 'veee veee veee'.

Bring back Attic Greek imo (ok, they tried in the 19th century, it didn't pan out, but still).

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Casting from pc to Roku seems rather hit and miss - sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

What're you using to make that happen? I run a Plex server on my PC and that works pretty well.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Party Boat posted:

Plex server on the PC, if you do have a smart TV there'll almost certainly be a native app and that's all you need, if not then a Chromecast or Amazon stick can act as the receiver.

E: Whoops lots of posts I didn't see

Or a Roku like she already has, it has a Plex app

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

radmonger posted:

Or to give another example, materially the UK and France are both not monarchies. The same forces that supplanted divinely-justified personal rule did so in both neighboring countries at the same time, give or take a few decades. It’s just that one still has a specialist state bureaucrat whose label happens to be the same as that of the actual personal rulers of the 1400s. If you try, with perfect hindsight, to trace a materialist answer as to why that is, the deepest answer you can get is that some colonel got the timing of a key cavalry charge right, or not.

Meanwhile, in actual hereditary monarchy lNorth Korea, ...

Thats a rather...simplistic view of what went down in the 17th century. Firstly by assuming Charles' personal rule was anything like Louis XVI's in effectiveness or legitimacy and secondly by assuming it could have become so if he'd won. England and France were very different places.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

The Question IRL posted:

But all of that is okay because he ended a monarchy (note, not the Monarchy. Since England still has a monarchy to this day.)

I mean, also, the Protectorate was a monarchy with the serial numbers filed off. They actually wanted to make him King originally.

Personally my sympathy's with Freeborn John, Richard Overton & co. Power to the people!

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Just noticed Gary Younge's twitter bio says 'Former Guardian Columnist' so one of the few sound journos of the Graun is gone?

He started a new job at Manchester Uni just before the covids. So yeah its basically Owen Jones and that's it now.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

starting the transatlantic slave trade.

Think the Spanish had a head start on us for that one.

Actually Cromwells actions in Ireland were fairly normal for the time when there was a religious and language barrier - English speaking Arminians got treated a lot better than Gaelic speaking Catholics. You see a similar dynamic in the Thirty Years' War which at
It's worst made Ireland look like a tea party , but I guess noone still cares about Pappenheim.

Edit: 111 is 7 in binary

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jun 18, 2020

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Drone_Fragger posted:

Also worth noting he ossentisbly started the civil war because the king was essentially doing personal rule via ruling by rump parliament against the “law” (the magna carta, lol)

Um no. The King dismissed Parliament altogether and raised money by dubious prerogatives such as Ship Money, there was no 'rump'. Meanwhile Pride's Purge was Fairfax not Cromwell who was not yet Top Dog.

Like um not to be rude but if you think Cromwell personally started the English Civil War you might want to read a book...

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Jun 18, 2020

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Marenghi posted:

Lands confiscated, sometimes if they were lucky they’d be compensated but with much worse land in Connaught. Others sold to indentured servitude in Barbados. All Catholics barred from politics, barred from practicing religion. Mass rocks are still common around the country, stone alters in secluded areas where Irish practiced their faith in secret because public worship could get them executed.

Other than the indentured servitude bit maybe, this all happened in England, too. Catholic emancipation wasn't until the 19th century in England. You still see priest holes in the occasional manor house, especially Northern, to this day.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

ronya posted:

a good swathe are Polish or Ukrainian

they're not terribly important electorally as they - like many ethnic minorities - live in the safe Labour cities. Still, why risk it

And, y'know, mostly don't get to vote, if they did we wouldn't be Brexiting.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Ms Adequate posted:

I mean if I was to wed I would simply ensure it was to someone whose views aren't excerable

This was my plan and it has worked for me, can recommend. Though I don't think she likes chocolate oranges.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Bobstar posted:

Beerbeerians :v:

I'm sure that sounds like "barbarians" said in an accent of English, but I couldn't tell you which one.

South Efrican imo

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Private Speech posted:

Other countries have universal healthcare and have had it for longer, hth.

That said the NHS is better than many for treating almost every resident regardless of citizenship(*) free of charge and for being funded almost entirely by general taxation.

It's also fairly underfunded though, compared with some of the other ones.


* Illegal immigrants, short-term visitors and visa overstayers need not apply.

'Short term' visitors my loving foot. You don't get free NHS care until you've become a permanent resident, which requires you to live in the UK legally for five years first, paying an NHS fee every year of that time, which regularly gets doubled every year or two. Ask my wife, who is coming towards the end of her second 2 1/2 year FLR(M) 'short term' visa. That's on top of the actual visa application fee of a couple of grand a go, of course, and paying the standard UK taxes we all do as well.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Dabir posted:

Discord is a very good piece of chatroom software, but it's a chatroom, not a message board. It doesn't have discrete threads to package discussions into. Imagine if you merged every single thread in each subforum into one horrible gigathread, it would be unreadable.

Yes. Imagine if there was a megathread, for those of us from the UK :ohdear:

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jose Mengelez posted:

we'll never reach the "orwell would have words for antifa!"

I mean to be fair, that word was 'comrade', possibly followed by 'could you kindly pass me some more rounds for my Mosin-Nagant so I can shoot at this Spanish fascist myself?'

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Angepain posted:

it's ok I checked and ProBoards is still up and running. anyone remember ProBoards. when you were 13 in 2004 and wanted to feel like a bigshot forums administrator with five of your friends who were all also admins who you all knew from another perfectly fine forum on the same topic, those were the days

I was 27 in 2004 and on the verge of divorcing my first wife :corsair:

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Trin Tragula posted:

Could we maybe encourage people to stay in Labour without using neo-Nazi catchphrases?

I mean, that's kind of Vitamin P's thing. Repeatedly. Over and over.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

So uh talking of NEC elections have we talked about this?

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Gort posted:

Going from First Past The Post to Single Transferable Vote seems like a positive move to me. STV lets you vote for your actual preferred choice, while FPTP forces you to temper that with, "But my preferred choice won't win so I'll have to compromise".

I didn't find any of the arguments the article puts forward against STV to be convincing.

'The Right are all for it and it is suspiciously being rushed through the instant the Left lost its lock on the NEC' seems reason enough to be concerned.

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