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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Speaking of shootings, I think this got missed so far:

quote:


9 juveniles injured in gunfight that broke out at 12-year-old's birthday party
“Of the nine, seven were treated at a local hospital and released. Two remain in the hospital in stable condition.

Those injured were a 17-year-old male shot in the arm; a 16-year-old male grazed in the ribs; a 15-year-old male with a graze wound to the ankle; a 15-year-old male shot in the foot; a 14-year-old male shot in the leg; a 13-year-old male shot in the leg; and a 12-year-old shot in both legs. A 16-year-old male shot in the stomach and a 14-year-old male with a gunshot wound to the head remain in the hospital.”

...

"Authorities believe that an estimated 60 young people were at the 12-year-old’s birthday party and that two groups of male juveniles who have an ongoing feud with each other began arguing at some point during the party which is what eventually led to the shootout.

Yet, in spite of all of the witnesses at the party, not a single person has given a formal statement of what they saw take place. No arrests have been made in connection with the shooting but officers have determined that two guns were fired in the altercation.

“Not one person has given a formal statement"
https://abcnews.go.com/US/juveniles-injured-gunfight-broke-12-year-olds-birthday/story?id=77182959

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Kalit posted:

Nope, Waters' comments was before they were sequestered. The jury wasn't sequestered until after closing arguments yesterday. But yes, the jury was told to avoid all news during the trial by the judge.

Here's what the judge thinks:


The judge in the trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin criticized comments made by Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., over the weekend, calling them "disrespectful to the rule of law," but rejected a motion from the defense to use her rhetoric as grounds for a mistrial.

"I'm aware that Congresswoman Waters was talking specifically about this trial, and about the unacceptability of anything less than a murder conviction, and talk about being 'confrontational,' " Judge Peter Cahill said on Monday as the closing arguments wrapped up in the trial of Chauvin for the killing of George Floyd.

Cahill said he wished "elected officials would stop talking about this case" but said that the jury had been instructed not to watch the news and therefore Waters' comments could not prejudice the jury and warrant a mistrial.

"Beyond the articles that we're talking specifically about the facts of this case, a congresswoman's opinion really doesn't matter a whole lot," Cahill said.

He noted separately, however, that Waters may have provided the defense "something on appeal that may result in this whole trial being overturned."

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

cr0y posted:

How do you even begin to get an unbiased jury when they all know they are either going to be hunted by the police or by the mob

You have to find the dumbest motherfuckers possible who aren't aware of anything

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

His Divine Shadow posted:

Can't help but think this was revenge for the floyd sentence.

They must have precogs working at the PD there

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

A decade ago, the bankrupt owner of the Greenidge power plant in Dresden, New York, sold the uncompetitive coal-fired relic for scrap and surrendered its operating permits. For the next seven years, the plant sat idle on the western shore of Seneca Lake, a monument to the apparent dead end reached by the state's fossil fuel infrastructure. But today, Greenidge is back up and running as a Bitcoin mining operation. The facility hums with energy-hungry computers that confirm and record Bitcoin transactions, drawing power from the plant's 106-megawatt generator now fueled by natural gas.
https://www.nysfocus.com/2021/04/13/new-york-bitcoin-mining-threat/

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Thom12255 posted:

Using your current PC to mine is only going to get you enough to buy a Starbucks coffee every other week, it's really not worth the trouble.
Mine ancient pc is making like $2-3 net every day and gave me free heating in the winter. Bitcoin is a dumb ponzi scheme at this point but doesn't mean you can't make money on it.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
E: never mind.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Biden is pushing probably the most progressive agenda ever
Most people approve it
Goons: what a bunch of assholes!

Like ok you want full communism and anything short of it is treason but I'm not sure this is a healthy way of looking at things.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Bootleg Trunks posted:

I too have been smitten by bidens true leftism

He left the kids at the border in cages
He left Stephen miller's refugee cap in place
He left the border wall in place
He left behind his $15 minimum wage promise
He left the troops in Afghanistan past their leave deadline
He left dejoy in the post office

The first 3 points make him more like FDR than anything

(If they were accurate)

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Vorik posted:

What does that have to do with Biden?

He's going to bribe them by cancelling their debt

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Acebuckeye13 posted:

"why do police keep shooting people" makes a lot more sense when you realize that much of police training emphasizes that you could be murdered at all times, and many academies use videos of officers getting killed while waving neon signs saying THIS COULD BE YOU

Can you blame them when there's a threat at every corner?





(This is another training video called Surviving Edges Weapons)


1glitch0 posted:

But you probably have to wear a mask, so...
She'll just have to stay outside, or get thrown overboard if causing trouble

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
People seem to be happy to send some random street cop to jail for making a lovely split-second decision, but I'd say this warrior-cop guy is doing way more damage overall

Alkydere posted:

Is that the one where it shows ridiculous poo poo that could be used by supposed criminals like the guy with fish-hooks hanging from the back of his jeans' pant-leg? Or a hat with a bunch of razor blades obviously and lazily stitched into the back of a baseball cap (you know: the part with little to no real mass or structural integrity) that would be obvious from a million miles away from any angle from the direct front and could be flopped against a cop to make him die of a thousand papercuts?

Yes that's the one. There's a fun summary of it here https://youtu.be/p1sxc3V0lzQ (about 31m in) though you can also find the full thing too.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1386685340522536961

And why do you think that might be congressman?


Wait, that's Santorum, of the cum/lube/poop fame? And he's employed by CNN now? :psyduck:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Grossman has waxed poetic about how the best sex you'll ever have is right after killing someone. The man who has formulated one of the most widely used police training methodologies in the US everyone!

Didn't it turn out that he never actually killed anyone?

Which, of course, is good, but :lol:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Stickman posted:

...Wow, that's pretty hosed up. Not only is it FTP with simple plurality to win, people voting "no" on the recall are probably much less likely to vote on the replacement question. I guess it's fortunate that the recall is extremely unlikely to pass.

Not to mention the people not interested in doing thr recall would be less likely to vote at all. So it seems like this could easily get Jenner (or Pepe the frog) elected if there's no requirement for turnout

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
The ID situation looks pretty funny from the outside because on the surface the republicans want a pretty sensible thing (standardized IDs which can't be faked by every teenager looking for booze) but as usual for racist reasons. The opposition makes sense but nothing is actually done to address the availability of the IDs so everything stays dysfunctioal

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Nenonen posted:

Where does one automatically get a free ID? Here it costs around 50 eurobucks + official photo about 10 bucks (though you can take the shot yourself as long as it passes the official requirements).

But if you can't get manage that then welfare will cover the necessary documents for you, or in case of voting you can also get a free voting ID from the police department but you still need the official photo. The latter sounds like a hassle though, it's only useful for voting.

So you do get free ID if you are poor and need it, but you don't just automagically get handed one when you turn 18, you must always apply for one (and request welfare to pay for it if you can't pay it out of pocket). And it expires in five years anyway.

Sounds like fasciam!

(It's more or less the same here)

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Ither posted:

Random Question: Why do Elephants have smaller tusks than their predecessors?

What's the evolutionary pressure there?

The longer tusks probably got stuck in the ground constantly

Thom12255 posted:

I'm sure there is someone out there that has said the Holocaust wasn't so bad because they got Israel out of it.
Also

mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Apr 28, 2021

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Fame Douglas posted:

Giuliani had almost a year to get rid of all evidence, with tons of advance warning. Nothing is going to come of this.

On the other hand: he's a loving idiot. So Im pretty sure he still has a mycrimes.txt file on the desktop

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The few Republicans who want to "move past" Trump are never going to win.

It's actually impressive how thoroughly Trump has taken over the Republican party.

Net approval of free trade among Republicans has dropped 68% compared to 2015.
Net approval for the idea that "American is a country of immigrants and immigration strengthens America" is down 38% compared to 2015.


https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/most-republicans-don-t-believe-biden-legitimate-2020-winner-cbs-news-yougov-poll-112093765671
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republicans-liz-cheney-opinion-poll/
Holy poo poo, 67% (not exactly nice) actually think trump won

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

VH4Ever posted:

Don't like 80% or more already believe this....?

I mean are y'all under the impression Liz Cheney and Kitzinger and Mitt are evidence of some significant chunk of Rs that haven't already made "2020 was stolen from Trump" as their canon? It's pretty much that comparative handful that hasn't gotten on that page at this point. The rest, top to bottom, are convinced of it.

Nit a significant chunk but as I said, I was legit shocked the other poll showed 65% thought the election was stolen. I legit thought it's like 30% max (which is still too much)

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Here's an interesting article on Biden's background with Israel. https://www.vox.com/22442000/biden-israel-gaza-hamas-history-policy

Based on that and everything we've seen so far, it's clear he's not going to be super hard on them, but it seems like he has his limits too, e.g. like when they started settlements.

The private diplomacy makes sense IMO, the UN resolutions are worthless anyway so that's how I'd approach it too. Of course whether or not this actually happened or Bibi is just satisfied with the number of dead civilians, that's another matter.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

According to the comments, they got married, then divorced, and then she killed herself when she was 20.

We call this The Aristocrats!

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1395823353554997252

I don't think loving your wife is an excusable absence? But I haven't read the House rules.

"Service as a husband" or "husband as a service"? HaaS? I hope the VCs have the cash ready for my new startup.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

They said there was a bomb on the plane when it was over their airspace, and directed the aircraft to Minsk.

There was also a fighter escort somewhere involved.

It was much closer to its destination in Vilnius than to Minsk so that wasn't really a good excuse.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Velocity Raptor posted:

Can you expand on this? I imagine squirreling away all those bribes donations would be a good way to make bank to pass to your dynasty.

I don't think you can (legally) just pocket the donations and financially it would almost certainly be better to just get hired as a lobbyist by one of the companies you were just regulating

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Bugsy posted:

Good job on understanding the first amendment florida.

https://twitter.com/HalSinger/status/1396930114060013568

"A late amendment to the bill exempts companies from the law if they own a theme park larger than 25 acres"
You've gotta hand it to them, that's an impressively blatant way of excepting The Mouse from the law.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

BigBallChunkyTime posted:

Obviously not enough guns.

Texas legalized all guns for everyone and it didn't happen there so theory checks out

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Jaxyon posted:

Almost nobody (especially nobody in this thread) has said that it IS enough.

The point is when people kramer in here to Fight The USPOL Orthodoxy or whatever they think they're doing, they create a strawman that falls apart under even the slightest examination.

"What is the functional difference between Manchin and a GOP senator"1 is an easily answered question. He is functionally much better. He has supported things that help people that a GOP senator would not.

1. That doesn't make him good.

2. That doesn't make him less of a self centered turdlord.

3. This doesn't make the people who understand that difference and explain to you fans of his.

And that's frustrating. Politics is frustrating. But this plays out over and over again every time he comes up.

If you(generic "you") think that he's no more useful than a republican senator in his slot, then you don't get to pretend to have informed opinions on US politics. It's really basic poo poo.

1. source

Yeah I totally get that it's frustrating. But also constantly bitching about him seems pointless. That's who the people elected and he represents them, if they wanted to elect MegaBernie they could've. Trying to blackmail him to do what his base doesn't want seems like a pretty bad idea.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Thom12255 posted:

A lot of the social welfare reforms in the UK in the 20th century were aimed at making the nation's population stronger in a war so it's a good route to go!

Same in Germany!

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Someone up there loves Andrew Yang, because his biggest competitor just got caught in an even worse situation than living in upstate New York and running for Mayor of NYC... living in New Jersey and running for Mayor of NYC.

https://twitter.com/courtneycgross/status/1402819852914548736

2021 NYC Politics: Releasing your E-ZPass records to prove you don't go to New Jersey.

https://twitter.com/courtneycgross/status/1402821256907460609
https://twitter.com/courtneycgross/status/1402819472612900869

So he just takes the PATH in? That's what I did daily while staying with my cousin in Jersey City in the before times

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Grouchio posted:

It takes one to get Manchin to kiss his ring.

Is that legal though??

Sure, it's extra-legal

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

DoomTrainPhD posted:

The best solution is to ban corporations from owning homes.
I'm not convinced it's corporate ownership driving up the prices, at least here. Mostly seems to be bought up by foreigners who never show up (I live in one like that) or "investors" convinced that real estate is the only possible investment because theyve never heard of an ETF.

ReidRansom posted:

Wife and I are basically resigned to not owning a home until our parents have died and we're able to sell one or both of theirs. And like, we do alright! We're pretty bougie! But you can't chase a bubble being pumped by cash buyers who will buy sight unseen. I don't know where all this money is coming from. It's crazy.
Yeah same, shits hosed in Europe too. I could still afford a decent apartment by myself even but gently caress it I'm not competing with idiots taking out 35 year mortgages for half of their income or Russian Mafia.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

evilweasel posted:

it is impressive you are managing to complain about this

And think about what it'd do to local mom&pop vaccine manufacturers!

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:

property taxes aren't really a barrier to homeownership but if the value of your home increases due to gentrification or just general number-up then your appraisal and thus tax burden can increase as well. this is really a problem for retired people on fixed incomes who bought the house in 1971 or whatever and really can't afford to move and may be in trouble if their property tax bill goes from $1200 to $4000
The last property tax bill was like $100. What I've heard about places like NJ it could be more than your mortgage and that's pretty bonkers. I don't get how the only form of wealth tax that's somehow acceptable is literally on the only thing that separates you from living on the street.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Seems like the minimum wage isn't needed after all. Checkmate libs!

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

mdemone posted:

Wanted to draw attention to this because it's a remarkable piece of journalism and well worth your time.

https://twitter.com/gzornick/status/1403770910658764804?s=21

Yeah that's a pretty horrifying pro-click, holy poo poo.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Bishyaler posted:

Are you shocked that the lab leak conspiracy is entering the mainstream, even among liberals? Biden took Trump's sinophobic horseshit and promoted it as a real possibility.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57260009

It is a real possibility. It's happened before, multiple times. The question is how that possibility is handled.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Deteriorata posted:

Tucker seems to be more of a grifter and opportunist than an ideologue. He would be preaching about the workers' control of the means of production if he got paid enough to do it.

Idea forna goon project. Let's crowdfund Tucker's new Communism, Now show.

Dubar posted:

The real problem with the lab leak theory is that it normalizes "correlation = causation" as a thought process, which is a huge victory for the anti-truth movement.
Sometimes it's the right thing to check though. If an airliner blows up mid-air in Tehran while the air defense is on high alert, it's not unreasonable to check if someone was a bit trigger happy, because it's not unlikely compared to the chances of it just exploding randomly.


Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Let's assume someone from the lab accidently (or nefariously on purpose!) let a deadly virus out into the wild (with Wuhan as ground zero)

So what? how does that put the genie back in the bottle? how does that make the lack of response with months of forewarning better? how does it make the CDC's "WASH YOUR VEGGIES AND CEREAL WITH SOAP" and "masks probably don't do anything" early response any better?

I don't really understand what the point of Jon's 8 minute rant about the "Wuhan Coronavirus" was and it was weird.
Can't speak for Jon or Trumpers here obviously.

But it's absolutely important to find out the origin of the outbreak, at the very least to fix the procedures that led to the virus escaping containment if it did get out of a lab.

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

FlamingLiberal posted:

Of course the GOP nominee for NYC mayor is some kind of brownshirt leader who was last relevant in the 1980s.

Well he does want to save the kittens and puppers at least

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