Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Orange Devil posted:

I can tell you exactly how it's going to happen. Once gay marriage becomes totally accepted conservative culture warriors will take up the mantle of protecting "our gays" from those backwards gay-hating Muslims. That's what :geert: does.

It's always a little weird seeing conflicting prejudices collide like that. I've seen literal neo-nazis adamantly defending Israel because hating muslims and arabs is now more important to them than hating jews.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Haha, goddamn, that's something else alright. "Well, if those black people still get offended when I say racist things then I suppose the onus is on them to work harder at getting over themselves already!"

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

VitalSigns posted:

Ugh why is this still going on. How is harassing this woman and publishing her personal information supposed to prove anything besides that transphobes are unhinged and vindictive people?

Because their whole argument is predicated on "I think she's weird and icky", so the only way they can really make it is by hammering on it over and over and going "look how weird and icky she is!". The whole stuff about "what if your daughter was in the same room/what about peeping perverts/what if some regular dude sneaks into the opposite room for kicks" is just a flimsy justification so they can pretend they're not just completely superficial and arbitrary.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010


-A man who made a career out of complaining about every drat thing

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

CommieGIR posted:

Look longingly into the distance and pretend to say something deep....

No, you just look like an rear end in a top hat.

That's the thing that gets me most about these pictures. That's not some candid snapshot that happened to fit or something. He himself deliberately chose to go with that pose and that particular picture to present himself and his inane ramblings. I can't even imagine how much of an overinflated ego you need to have so that seems like a good idea and not like a completely narcissistic thing to do.

Perestroika fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Apr 24, 2015

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Funny you should say that.


I... just... what would you even want fetal body parts for? It's not like there's a thriving market of fetuses in dire need of organ transplants.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

C2C - 2.0 posted:

I believe, within the past few years, an off-duty cop was killed by on-duty cops because he pulled his concealed weapon during a robbery. Mobile-posting; I'll link the story when I get home.

Something similar also came up during the Giffords shooting, if I remember correctly. There actually was somebody carrying a gun at the scene, but he decided not to use it because he wasn't sure who the actual shooter was. It was a good call, too, because the person he'd have used it on had he decided to shoot was just a bystander who'd managed to wrestle the gun away from the actual shooter.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Mel Mudkiper posted:

This really gets to the problem with these people. They honestly think they are the silent majority being oppressed by shrill SJWs who everyone totally secretly hates but are afraid to stand up against. They do not seem to get that edgy offensive poo poo during a charity stream is actually offensive to the majority and that everyone isn't sitting around going "heh kill yourself lol"

Yeah, that seems to be one of the driving factors of the whole SJW "issue". The internet has become a dramatically more populous and interconnected place in the last decade. The people who in a way used to have the run of the place in relatively insular communities that reinforced their views are now confronted with the fact that a large part of society does not actually condone their poo poo. So now they run with the SJW clichee so that they can pretend that any disagreement they face stems from outside agitators with an ulterior agenda that can be easily dismissed.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Hazo posted:

Holy poo poo this is nauseating on so many levels. What the hell does Obama have to do with abortions? Oh right, he's a black president while Things are Happening, therefore he's responsible.

Manuel Calavera posted:

That's not even the worst one McCoy (Glenn or Gary, doesn't matter since they're both horrible people) has done. Come to the Polititoon thread, we have such sights to show you.

Let's post one more, just because it's such a perfect storm of everything terrible:



Part of the narrative is basically that anything pro-choice is a literal death cult whose only motivation is a love of death and money.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Dr. Faustus posted:

I don't think it's fair to blame comedians for what's happening on the college circuit.

Even after "killing" (sorry I meant having a great set) lots of younger and more relevant comedians are being told that they're not welcome back because of some microtransgression that a minority of the audience thinks they're being holier-than-thou (and missing the point of comedy) by opposing and getting these people blacklisted.

It really does sound like the premise of PCU when taken all together. It's not a difficult premise to believe, either.

Are there actually any concrete instances of these things actually happening with any regularity? This idea about hyper-PC campuses banning comedians left and right is bandied about like it's downright endemic everywhere you go, but I haven't really seen all that many specific stories of it actually happening. Especially not when you control for issues like "comedian was actually just plain unfunny" or "students individually criticized comedian but no official action was taken".

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

PUGGERNAUT posted:

Am I too late for Crowderchat?



Let me tell you, I visited an electronics store recently, and they didn't even stock any punch tape! That whippersnapper behind the counter didn't even know which type they'd need to order to work with my Z3! :corsair:

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

VitalSigns posted:

So I guess we shouldn't research lung cancer then, just tell people not to smoke.

Actually wait conservatives would probably agree there, since research is devilish science :(

Apply the same logic to type 2 diabetes and propose to no longer cover insulin. See how quickly they'll make a 180 because a solid chunk of their base relies on it.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

big mean giraffe posted:

You do realize most first world countries have these kinds of laws right? It isn't some magical turning point that's impossible to enact without eroding our very liberties.

As an example, here's a part of Germany's §130 StGB against incitement of the people:

quote:

(1) Whosoever, in a manner capable of disturbing the public peace

1. incites hatred against a national, racial, religious group or a group defined by their ethnic origins, against segments of the population or individuals because of their belonging to one of the aforementioned groups or segments of the population or calls for violent or arbitrary measures against them; or

2. assaults the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously maligning an aforementioined group, segments of the population or individuals because of their belonging to one of the aforementioned groups or segments of the population, or defaming segments of the population,

shall be liable to imprisonment from three months to five years.

(2) Whosoever

1. with respect to written materials (section 11(3)) which incite hatred against an aforementioned group, segments of the population or individuals because of their belonging to one of the aforementioned groups or segments of the population which call for violent or arbitrary measures against them, or which assault their human dignity by insulting, maliciously maligning or defaming them,

(a) disseminates such written materials;

(b) publicly displays, posts, presents, or otherwise makes them accessible;

(c) offers, supplies or makes them accessible to a person under eighteen years; or

(d) produces, obtains, supplies, stocks, offers, announces, commends, undertakes to import or export them, in order to use them or copies obtained from them within the meaning of Nos (a) to (c) or facilitate such use by another; or

2. disseminates a presentation of the content indicated in No 1 above by radio, media services, or telecommunication services

shall be liable to imprisonment not exceeding three years or a fine.

To my admittedly limited understanding, a key point here is actually the very first sentence "in a manner capable of disturbing the public peace". So it's not just a matter of the content of the speech, but rather whether it is capable of disturbing the public peace or inciting further action.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

ProperGanderPusher posted:

FDR is commonly listed among the worst presidents ever among my right wing and libertarian friends for the New Deal, which turned us into a nation of takers instead of rugged frontiersmen over time and did nothing to help the Depression (the war did). The die off of the Greatest Generation, who collectively tended to like FDR, is probably enabling this trend.

The most recent popular line among libertarians seems to be that the New Deal actually prolonged the Great Depression because... I'm not quite sure, really. Probably because everything Keynes said must not only be wrong, but the exact opposite of it must be true. Then the Depression kind of fixed itself afterwards because Free Market.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Bushiz posted:

Which brings us to the main event:






I hope every time Milo asks why he's unverified, Twitter answers him with something along the lines of "only people of actual public interest get verified" :allears:

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Rick_Hunter posted:

Jesus Christ :stonk:



Do note that this delightful piece of 'art' was actually commissioned my Milo himself. :laffo:

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Rick_Hunter posted:

Could you give us the summary? I'd rather not have to read anything that Brettbort puts out.

Basically the kid had a meeting with Schumer and afterwards tweets this:



That got some backlash, and after a short while he apologised. Schumer then responded with this:



And to my knowledge that seems to have been pretty much it.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Levantine posted:

Does he really not understand the indictment came down because PP didn't sell baby parts illegally and these shitfucks lied? Or is this just more impotent wailing on his part?

It seems to be just good old black and white thinking. To Walsh, PP is just inherently evil. Since the courts are where evil people and organisations are punished, PP should be automatically found guilty the moment it's brought before the court. Whether or not they've actually broken any existing laws whatsoever is perfectly irrelevant to him.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Sir Tonk posted:



I need to figure out who created the old Conservative Web Browser and see if he'll say how much he made off of it. This is such an easy group of people to fleece, they're happily paying for lovely email for fucks sake.

edit

It's still around, of course. http://conservativewebbrowser.conservative-americans.com/

Haha, that's amazing. Something about charging a still pretty hefty fee for "Freedom of Speech" tickles me in just the right way. :allears:

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Dapper_Swindler posted:

thats horrible but it doesnt make senses? to me at least. its probaly something awful.

Yeah, I'm not really sure what it's getting at either. I suppose it's either supposed to be "transgender people are all dudes and should piss in the alley like all other dudes.", or "transgender people are disgusting and should do their business outside away from us regular folks."

But yeah, whatever it's supposed to be, it's probably terrible.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Chantilly Say posted:

I thought the justification for hate speech laws like Germany and France have is just that it's bad PR for the country?

Not really, no. The concept of personal honour and dignity is a pretty big deal in german jurisprudence (dating back to Prussian times, I think), and so there are laws to protect against having that violated. It's literally the very first article of the Grundgesetz/constitution: "Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority."

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010


It's funny how at the beginning of the whole trans debate, one of the most common conservative arguments was along the lines of "Why should we need to change our laws for such a tiny minority? There are only a handful of them around in the first place!". Yet now there are apparently roving packs of them going around in every city, and you can't even go to a single public bathroom without stumbling over at least three transpeople in the process.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

twistedmentat posted:

https://www.facebook.com/DisdainForPlebs/videos/1076711845742595/

This video keeps popping up on my FB feed, mostly by people going 'wtf is going on?' but a few people I know who tend to buy into the PC CULTURE RUN AMOK! type thinking have been going "these are the kinds of people who government is trying to appeal to?".

Which goverment is trying to appeal to the protester? Considering how there are States making cops a protected class, I don't think that's true.

The audio is faked. This is the original: https://youtu.be/jIUSoj4G-1k?t=25m43s

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Some idiot posted:

How do you explain the United States becoming the world's lone superpower? We didn't do it by joining some group. We didn't do it by having a leech run the show. That's not at all how we attain greatness, and this is what people are finally realizing. There's nothing great in the EU.

Yes, truly, there's nothing about the United States that even remotely resembles something like a Union of separate States forming a larger federation. Nothing at all, nuh-uh. :allears:

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Crowsbeak posted:

40$ That's 3$ less then Knotts charges online. You know a place with roller coasters and poo poo. Unless they got rides to go with this that's a huge loving rip off. Hell most science museums are cheaper.

I was gonna say, that seems incredibly high. I just re-checked the prices of a few science museums I've been to, and without fail they all fell into a 10-15€ range. And this includes some really involved ones with tons of elaborate interactive exhibits. Purely historical museums tend to be less than 10€, even. 40$ for this seems ridiculously out of proportion no matter how you look at it :psyduck:

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

FuzzySkinner posted:

I also don't understand why these people are so bizarrely intimidated by women and transgender people. That Gavin McInnes shitbag ranting about how women should be in the kitchen? Who honestly believes that crap?

It's basically a bunch of dudes who are just deeply, deeply insecure about themselves. So they try to define themselves primarily through their masculinity, because being male is pretty much the one thing that they all have that a) can never be taken from them, and b) that has, or used to have, a number of positive qualities associated with it. You know, all the old stuff about men being the real movers and shakers, the big deciders, the rational supermen, yada yada. So since so much of their perceived self-worth depends on the value of their masculinity, they react absolutely viciously to anything that might diminish it.
Women are looked down upon because if you want to feel superior, you need something or somebody to feel superior to. If any women try to fight for a spot in the limelight, then that's of course seen as a direct assault upon this superiority. Feminism in particular is the devil because acknowledging that the game is rigged in favour of men means accepting that the reason men are at the top isn't because they're intrinsically better. Transpeople, merely by existing, throw a big old wrench in the traditional gender model that supports this worldview, so they too must be attacked and put down at every opportunity.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Meet the Trump Bros

quote:

Misogyny was an issue about maybe 60, 80 years ago," said Rowe. "That's not an issue today. There are a lot bigger fish to fry...You know, ISIS is chopping off heads. We've got 19 trillion dollars in debt."

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Keeshhound posted:

University of Chicago to Incoming Freshmen: Don’t Expect ‘Safe Spaces’ Here


God forbid you let potential rape victims know you'll be discussing a topic that might remind them of a traumatic event in their past. What a bunch of pussies, amirite? :rolleyes:

At this point I'm becoming increasingly convinced that literally nobody who bitches about safe spaces even knows what the term means.

Perestroika fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Aug 25, 2016

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Stallion Cabana posted:

For instance, at one point the JSDF kills a bunch of special forces guys on a covert mission. They identify them as the US because 'Only the United States uses black people in their special forces'.

That reminds me of the amazingly terrible novel Unintended Consequences. The protagonist ended up in the middle of an FDA raid while visiting a gun shop of a friend of his (the FDA assumed the place would be empty at the time). He notices that the group doing the raid includes women, nonwhites, and even nonwhite women, and from that immediately concludes that this could only be a gang of criminals come to rob the place. He proceeds to murder them all in cold blood, and from there goes on a surprisingly Al-Qaida-like terror campaign to make the US government repeal all gun laws ever.

Actually, if you've the time to spare and/or hate yourself, give the Let's Read of it a try. It's just completely insane. :allears:

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

stinkles1112 posted:

The funniest part of his screed is that I've seen some very compelling cases made by progressives irt porn being truly awful and I kind of agree but once again Walsh can't even be correct correctly

I mean yeah, there's absolutely a point to be made that porn influences society's views on and understanding of sex, and that the current mainstream porn fashion does so in ways that can be lovely for many people. But going on about moral decay and trying to outlaw the whole thing entirely will do gently caress all to change anything about that. Not to mention that Walsh's motivation in this doesn't have anything to do with the desire to improve anybody's life but his own.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

McGlockenshire posted:

Apparently it's a distorted view of BDSM and the BDSM community is upset at the way it's portrayed.

Please also remember that it started as a Twilight fanfic.

Even setting aside anything to do with BDSM, it's basically a textbook abusive relationship. From the moment he meets her, the dude stalks and harasses the protagonist in a way that would/should lead to a restraining order right away. Gaslighting, malicious withholding of affection, manipulating her family into supporting their relationship, the whole nine yards. There's also at least one scene that's basically unambiguously rape, and is only "saved" because the protagonist decides she's actually into it at the very last moment. The actual BDSM part being a complete shitshow as well is just the cherry on top.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Instant Sunrise posted:

"Crisis Pregnancy Centers" are awful predatory institutions that have been popping up for a while now. They purport to offer reproductive health services including abortion, but actually just spout anti-choice propaganda and straight up misinformation.

California passed AB 775 last year, which requires Crisis Pregnancy Centers to provide accurate medical information and accurate information on where to access proper reproductive health services.

For anti-choicers, being required to tell the truth is a huge invasion of freeze peach or something.

For some extra irony, note that some states apparently have pro-life laws requiring abortion doctors to provide their prospective patients with basically false or highly exaggerated "information" regarding the risks involved. So you end up with completely insane situations where they end up telling their patients things like: "By law I am required to tell you that an abortion increases your risk of breast cancer. But as an actual medical professional I can tell you that that statement is false and there's no actual evidence for this."

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Twelve by Pies posted:

Today on the Scott Adams show, if you think Trump is racist or sexist, you're hallucinating! Allow the master hypnotist to awake you from your trance.


A group of people stare at an object, watching it change from green to red. "This thing is changing colors!" one person says. A colorblind Scott Adams walks by and says "Hmph, that thing isn't changing color, they're all hallucinating! What a bunch of ignorant rubes!"

Also lol at his claim that he doesn't prefer Trump's policies and then goes on to say how Trump is so great as he has been for the past year or so.

For decades, philosophers have wondered what separates perception from true, objective knowledge. Little did they know that one day, master baiter Scott Adams would solve this riddle, deciding that the only objective truth is whatever Scott Adams believes.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Twelve by Pies posted:

Scott Adams is all in on the election being rigged, so that's probably what he'll claim if Hillary wins tomorrow.

You know, considering how much Adams is wanking about persuasion, you'd think he would be on board with this. After all, if Clinton has managed to persuade the majority of the country to the point where they would be willing to commit serious felonies on her behalf without even any prompting, wouldn't that make her the true master persuader? :allears:

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Shbobdb posted:

By Constitution, Germany is a Christian country. Great Britain is explicitly not only a Christian Country, but a Protestant, Anglican Country.


It's... really not, though? See article 140 of said constitution, which incorporates a number of articles from the previous Weimar constitution:

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_gg/englisch_gg.html#p0862 posted:

(1) Civil and political rights and duties shall be neither dependent upon nor restricted by the exercise of religious freedom.

(2) Enjoyment of civil and political rights and eligibility for public office shall be independent of religious affiliation.

(3) No person shall be required to disclose his religious convictions. The authorities shall have the right to inquire into a person’s membership in a religious society only to the extent that rights or duties depend upon it or that a statistical survey mandated by a law so requires.

(4) No person may be compelled to perform any religious act or ceremony, to participate in religious exercises, or to take a religious form of oath.

Article 137

(1) There shall be no state church.


(2) The freedom to form religious societies shall be guaranteed. The union of religious societies within the territory of the Reich shall be subject to no restrictions.

(3) Religious societies shall regulate and administer their affairs independently within the limits of the law that applies to all. They shall confer their offices without the participation of the state or the civil community.

(4) Religious societies shall acquire legal capacity according to the general provisions of civil law.

(5) Religious societies shall remain corporations under public law insofar as they have enjoyed that status in the past. Other religious societies shall be granted the same rights upon application, if their constitution and the number of their members give assurance of their permanency. If two or more religious societies established under public law unite into a single organisation, it too shall be a corporation under public law.

(6) Religious societies that are corporations under public law shall be entitled to levy taxes on the basis of the civil taxation lists in accordance with Land law.

(7) Associations whose purpose is to foster a philosophical creed shall have the same status as religious societies.

(8) Such further regulation as may be required for the implementation of these provisions shall be a matter for Land legislation.

Article 138

(1) Rights of religious societies to public subsidies on the basis of a law, contract or special grant shall be redeemed by legislation of the Länder. The principles governing such redemption shall be established by the Reich.

(2) Property rights and other rights of religious societies or associations in their institutions, foundations, and other assets intended for purposes of worship, education or charity shall be guaranteed.

Article 139

Sunday and holidays recognised by the state shall remain protected by law as days of rest from work and of spiritual improvement.

Article 141

To the extent that a need exists for religious services and pastoral work in the army, in hospitals, in prisons, or in other public institutions, religious societies shall be permitted to provide them, but without compulsion of any kind.

The closest thing you'll find to an explicit religious aspect is a (non-denominational) reference to "god" in the preface of the constitution, but nothing of the kind in the actual text.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Ron Jeremy posted:

Just s reminder that the santorums had a miscarriage at 20 weeks and slept with the dead fetus and passed it around to their kids.

Welp, no wonder Rick Jr. on the right there has a permanent 1000 yard stare going on.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

RareAcumen posted:

Also, I think [someone fact-check me here, I'm begging you] she wasn't revealing extremely hush-hush keep this on the down low info that could get people killed by outing spies. It was stuff like war crimes we were committing. Firing on civilians and stuff like that.

There also were a bunch of diplomatic cables in there that turned out to be pretty embarrassing for a number of governments. But yeah, the overall security impacts of the leaks were found to be moderate to low, and no deaths were ever be found to have been caused by them. If there had been any deaths, they would have been certain to be thrown at Manning during her trial.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Mind_Taker posted:

A man known best as an entertaining host of an educational show for children being the target of a right-wing media smear campaign is hilarious and pathetic.

"No but you see, he went away from science and makes it all about political* issues!"

*Please disregard that it was us who made these issues "political" in the first place, because we didn't like where the science was pointing.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

anonumos posted:

He has a new Netflix show and the first episode was "I believe in anthropomorphic global warming, and doubters can loving SUCK IT! I'M RIGHT AND YOU FUCKERS SUCK! SCIENCE RULEZ, ALL OTHERS DROOLZ!! SCIENCE SCIENCE SCIENCE!"

Additionally there's another episode was about gender, explaining the concept of gender being a spectrum and suchlike. So in addition to all the crusty old farts hating him for the climate change one, this also made has the crusty young farts hate him, too.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Death Ray posted:

Leave Yappledappoulos alone! LEAVE HIM ALONE!!

(In point of fact, Milo has changed his name several times. How he arrived at this Greek name is anyone's guess.)

Ahaha, that loving guy.

Wikipedia posted:

Milo Yiannopoulos (/jəˈnɒpələs/;[2] born Milo Hanrahan; 18 October 1984; also writing under the pen name Milo Andreas Wagner)[3][4] is a British political commentator, media personality, blogger, journalist and author associated politically with the alt-right.[5]

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply