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Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Pilchenstein posted:

Seconding this, White House Down treats the concept properly, which is to say they just have fun with it instead of pulling some Tom Clancy poo poo.

Which one of the two movies was the one that was clearly the Die Hard script with the names crossed out and new ones written in in pencil?

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Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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thespaceinvader posted:

My favourite one was the season finale of one of the CSI Miami seasons in which Horatio goes to Brazil and shoots the criminal gang that killed his wife (or was it wife-to-be? I forget. Either way she had cancer so it was sad), without any sort of warrant, co-operation from the authorities or real moral justification, then makes a quip and puts on his sunglasses. It's like 'we're supposed to trust anything this man says about the law ever again when he's just been shown committing cold-blooded premeditated murder on foreign soil and getting away with it?"'.


Or where Innocent Guy is framed for a crime, and in the course of clearing his name he commits a whole shitload of actual crimes, and then at the end of the movie he proves he was framed for the one crime he didn't commit and he gets to go home. See _Shooter_, for example, where Marky Mark assaults a bunch of cops, wrecks a bunch of poo poo, and kills soldiers but then he gets to go home because he proves he didn't assassinate the guy he was wanted for assassinating in the first place.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Tiggum posted:


He's a magical ninja rather than a brilliant detective, so, badly.

The problem with Holmes as a character is that he's supposed to be brilliant.

Screenwriters aren't brilliant. So they have to write a character who's smarter than they are.

So you wind up with two kinds of plots in Holmes stories: ones where the mystery is so pedestrian that anyone with half a brain in their head can figure it out, except all the people in the story can't, except for Holmes, in which case the audience sees the solution coming a mile away and this completely dilutes the supposed brilliance of the character. Or ones where the mystery is completely impenetrable and Holmes solves it because of some random factor that the audience is never informed of. The solution comes out of left field, nobody else even has a chance to deduce it because otherwise it would completely dilute the supposed brilliance of the character.

The first Downey Jr. film they took the first option. In the second one there wasn't even really a mystery to begin with. They're dull, plodding films.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Tiggum posted:

That's not as big a problem as it seems, because the writers get to work backwards.

They sure seem to gently caress it up a lot, though.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Byzantine posted:

Adamantium is from Greek mythology. It's the nigh-unbreakable divine metal used to make the Gates of Tartarus, the chains of Prometheus, and other things meant to restrain deities.

That's adamantine. -tium suffix is later. They all stem from αδαμαστος, same root the word 'diamond' comes from.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Zaphod42 posted:




There's more back-and-forth with the foil, less commitment to a single strike, yeah. But this still highlights the point I made above; that real swordfighting is more about posturing and then its over pretty drat quick. You say "not nearly so quick" and compared to sabre it is, but compare that to a movie swordfight and its still extremely short.


I think using competitive fencing as an example of what "real swordfighting" should look like is probably not a good idea. The objective of a guy fencing for the gold medal is to win the point. The objective of a person with a sword fighting another person with a sword is to not die. If you lose a point in fencing, you swear a bit and accept a silver metal. If you get stabbed with an actual sword in pre-antibiotic society you're seriously hurting or dead.

That's not to say that really trying to kill each other with swords is going to look like it did in Rob Roy (although who cares if it doesn't, that scene is loving badass) or The Duellists, but it's not going to look like fencing, either.

Interesting videos here: http://www.thearma.org/Videos/TPVideos.htm

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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EmmyOk posted:

Atreides sounds cool and spacey to begin with though

Ancient Greek isn't spacey.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Hulebr00670065006e posted:

For stationary targets, closing one eye is fine. See competition shooting where they often have a piece of paper infront of their non dominant eye.
For combat and hitting moving targets, having both eyes open are usefull for depth perception and more perifiral vision and such.

You can't look down sights with both eyes, parallax means that the sight posts are only going to be in line with one of your eyes, not both. And obviously you can't look down a monocular scope with both eyes. Depth perception from parallax and binocular vision only is significant at close distances anyway, at longer ranges the difference in the image across either retina is minor and your perception of depth comes from other visual cues anyway. like accomodation or motion parallax.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Jedit posted:

TSCC had some of the best stuff ever done in the universe and at least one of the best scenes ever filmed for television. Vick's Chip is the highlight of S1, as we get to see a Terminator in full infiltration mode from its own POV.

S2 had a Terminator singing "Donald, Where's Your Trousers?", which is worth the price of admission by itself.

What? S2 was filmed?

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Jerusalem posted:

There's a wonderful scene in The Wire mocking this whole thing. The FBI gets involved in a major smuggling investigation at the port, and when they show up they square off with the cops and they all glare daggers at each other... then laugh and shake hands and eagerly join forces, because the FBI has a shitton of resources and the police have already done all the legwork so it's a win-win situation for both of them.

The fact that the FBI's priorities in the case don't exactly align with the BPD's priorities in the case is definitely a plot point later on.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Murphy Brownback posted:

Happy Gilmore and Billy Madison are the only Adam Sandler movies that exist to me.

Punch-Drunk Love is a legit good film. But I guess that's an "Adam Sandler movie" in that Adam Sandler stars, but that's it.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Zaphod42 posted:


Reminds me, I just re-watched Event Horizon over the weekend, great film.

There's a common one in horror movies that bugs me.



That's the ship's engine. In-universe, it's supposed to be a completely innocuous thing, it makes the ship go. But because this is a horror movie, and the ship needs to be evil, the engine has to visually look like something that just exudes an aura of ickiness and "gently caress that poo poo, I'm waiting for the next ship."

Seriously, look at that thing. Even beyond the random spiky projections all around that would, like, hurt you real bad if you slipped and fell, and the multiple unscreened moving parts that would mangle you in at least three different axes if you hit some turbulence at speed, even the lighting is really poo poo. You can't just have a shitload of fluorescent overheads to make it easy to see? No, you can't, because it's a horror movie and you need all sorts of dark shadowy alcoves for poo poo to jump out at you. It's just an *engine*, it doesn't need to *look* like an object of nameless dread.

It'd be like if in the movie _Christine_, Artie's character lifts up the hood, and instead of a 5.2-liter V8, the car is powered by a severed human head, or a bucket of dead cats or something, and nobody else in the film is bothered by this.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Frogfingers posted:

So I think there was a thread somewhere else talking about this movie, where they brought up that the engine was based on something called a Throne from the book of revelations. The comparison is pretty clear.



The book of revelations is some mind bending horror as well, so the reference is apt.

A Throne's an angel, they're actually mentioned in Colossians and in the book of Daniel. As a long-lapsed Catholic I can tell you there's a whole hierarchy of those things. Seraphim -> Cherubim -> Thrones -> Dominions -> Virtues -> Powers -> Principalities -> Archangels -> Angels.

And yeah, Thrones are weird-looking. Of course, it's not like cherubim are exactly normal.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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muscles like this? posted:

there's a whole plot about how him trying to kill a baby.

I thought that was supposed to be Abraham. Rewrites are weird sometimes.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Apparently.

http://www.valuepenguin.com/2014/12/safest-cities-new-jersey

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Age of Ultron: Kinetic and potential energy, dammit! You're gonna lift a big chunk of earth and then let it drop. Ignoring for the moment the reason that meteors are game-enders is that they're *moving really fast*, and that just lifting something and dropping it isn't going to result in it moving fast enough to destroy humanity, there's the little fact that a falling object converts potential energy into kinetic energy. So every bit of energy the thing has when it smacks into the ground is energy you had to put into it in the first place when you lifted it. So if you, say, had enough energy to lift this big weight high enough to squish the earth when it comes down, you had enough energy available to just destroy the earth in the first place, so do that instead of setting up a big set-piece final battle. Stupid AI villain..

nexus6 posted:

I felt that all the jokes Ultron made really lessened him as a threat, like he wasn't taking things seriously.

"I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those meddling superheroes!" :argh:


That bugged me too. Yes, it was a really funny and unexpected moment in the first movie when Loki goes off on his rant about his own importance only to be ignored and flattened by the Hulk. Ultron's final one-liner just seemed like a feeble attempt to duplicate that same moment and it didn't work.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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paragon1 posted:

The guys working in silos,submarines, and airbases aren't robots though! They're going to know something is up when the order to start the end of the world comes out of nowhere.

You get the codes, you launch. That's what's trained, that's what National Command Authority means. You're on a missile sub, you don't get CNN, the entire reason you're out there is to hide and be ready to launch when you receive a properly validated launch order. That's what the codes are for. They're not going to sit around and ask questions. Maybe we're launching a pre-emptive strike. Maybe the other side has launched a pre-emptive strike. SIOP (old) and OPPLAN (new) do not assume that there's going to be some sabre-rattling buildup prior to the launch, some steadily deteriorating relations that culminate in a launch order; the order to start the end of the world *can* come out of nowhere. The whole point of the authentication codes is not to receive them and start asking questions; they are an assurance that, when you receive them, *those questions have already been asked by the lawful command authority* and the decision has been made. Your job is to execute that decision, not sit around second-guessing it.

I mean, haven't you seen WarGames?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReJ3RltihME

Also, recommended reading:

http://www.amazon.com/Command-Control-Damascus-Accident-Illusion/dp/0143125788

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Zaphod42 posted:

Not Orgasmatron?


Fister Roboto.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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IshmaelZarkov posted:

Just saw Mad Max: Fury Road.

My new overall irritating movie moment is every moment in film that doesn't have a car chase/explosion/crazy wasteland raider/crazy wasteland raider exploding in a car chase.

A friend of mine literally just had a massive heart attack while watching it and is now in recovery in the hospital.

I can't loving wait to see this film.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Non Serviam posted:

Can you elaborate on this, or are you kidding?

Not kidding. He was feeling lovely, had all the symptoms of an MI, convinced himself it was just some bad popcorn or something that was causing an upset stomach. Then he went to the bathroom and noticed that he was really sweaty and pale for no good reason and even speaking was an effort, and drove himself to the ER, where he was able to say "Help me" and fell the gently caress over. They at first thought he was a junkie who needed Nalaxone, until he told them his arm was going numb and they did an EKG. Then they said "holy poo poo" and airlifted him to a better hospital and give him a stent.

48 hours from MI to discharge.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Cowslips Warren posted:

If I remember right that was a point in a Discworld book, where the girl was the werewolf and the guy human, and she was fine with him seeing her in either form, but no stages in between. I always took it to be a more extreme version of you waking up, sneaking out of bed to freshen up, and then get back into bed before your partner wakes up, so they don't see you at your worst moment.

gently caress, it would look like a mix of a car accident and a torture rack to an outsider. Ever watch a snake eat a very fat mouse or rat? Watching the jaws work and the bulge go down freaks out some people, and usually there's not a lot of blood and actual muscles ripping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFLQS12z8K4

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Zaphod42 posted:

Yeah almost all movie poker is horribly designed and only works on people who don't even understand the rules.

Its one of those things like movie hacking terms and science where they could just hire one guy for one day to approve some lines and make sure everything sounds good, but nope, gently caress it. I think when it comes to hacking stuff Hollywood Writers are intentionally trying to antagonize programmers with bullshit.

I don't remember the exact hands but I think I was pretty disappointed in the poker in Casino Royale, for instance. Its a pretty big plot element and yet its pretty clumsy with the bets and hands. Le Chiffre is supposed to be a math genius and he HAS to win, and yet he makes some really stupid plays against Bond. And Bond is also pretty careless even though he's some poker savant apparently.

Anybody who has played texas holdem once or twice should be able to spot how this poo poo doesn't make sense. Which in the days of internet poker is like 80% of America. You'd think the writers could come up with something a little better.


Worst part was that the person who was sent to watch the money and make sure Bond was staying responsible with it knew *literally nothing* about poker. She couldn't know anything about poker, because they needed a character to explain things to so that the stupid audience knew what was going on. So they have Mathis explaining poo poo to her like "Bond spotted his "tell"! You know, his "tell," a physiological twitch of body language that gives away his position!" Even though knowing the basic rules of the game the money's being risked in is kind of a pretty damned fundamental piece of required knowledge for the person who's being sent for no other purpose than to make sure the money's being handled responsibly.

There's no other goddamned Bond movie where they bother to explain the rules of the card game Bond is playing. Because they don't matter, they're not supposed to matter, what matters is that Bond wins or doesn't win, because the card game is not the focus of the loving movie, it's just background. And so the poker scenes are the worst part of the film.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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cheerfullydrab posted:

All the posts about Movie Poker ignore the fact that the general run of people honestly believe that poker is a game of skill, not a game of luck. That makes it perfect for a challenge of personalities or whatever the plot demands. One of the favorite movies of my childhood, Maverick, was all about poker. It's important to note that It doesn't matter how good you are at poker, you need good cards to win. My source is that I've been in the casino business (though never poker) for 5 years.

In Rounders, Matt Damon's character even says, "Why do you think the same five guys make it to the final table of the World Series of Poker every year? What, are they the luckiest guys in Las Vegas?" In the 10 years prior to that movie coming out, only two people made it to the final table two years in a row.

That said, it's obviously not purely luck, either. Knowing the odds is a learned skill, being able to read or manipulate people is a skill, etc. If it were purely luck you could just put everyone's cards face-up on the table and the win/loss ratio would be the same.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w17023

quote:

The Role of Skill Versus Luck in Poker: Evidence from the World Series of Poker
Steven D. Levitt, Thomas J. Miles
NBER Working Paper No. 17023
Issued in May 2011
NBER Program(s): LE
In determining the legality of online poker - a multibillion dollar industry - courts have relied heavily on the issue of whether or not poker is a game of skill. Using newly available data, we analyze that question by examining the performance in the 2010 World Series of Poker of a group of poker players identified as being highly skilled prior to the start of the events. Those players identified a priori as being highly skilled achieved an average return on investment of over 30 percent, compared to a -15 percent for all other players. This large gap in returns is strong evidence in support of the idea that poker is a game of skill.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Kramdar posted:

In the last shot of that room, it shows the phone laying on the table. You can clearly see individual bullet holes in the windowed wall, made by that shotgun. Must have been using slugs, tiny little slugs.

What do you think a shotgun fires? A shell of 00 buckshot from a 12-gauge contains 9 .33" slugs.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Not as bad as the one in Pacific Rim. God drat that was a horrible one.

Gah, the scene at 0:15 with all the missile exhaust trails. BALLISTIC MISSILES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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kinmik posted:

Sadly (in America, at least), recent studies have shown that girls as young as seven are getting their periods. It seems to be affected most drastically by poor diet, and so the majority of that population are obese girls. The girl in the movie seems to be a pretty healthy weight though? I'm not a nutritionist or dietician anyway.

It's the exact opposite. Onset of menarche is *delayed* by poor nutrition. It's been occurring at earlier and earlier ages over the past century, everywhere that people have access to enough food/micronutrients, and decent health systems that limit the occurrence of disease. There may be other influencing factors (like birth-control-pill metabolites in the water supply, etc), but "Most experts...agree that the early decline in the age of puberty is likely directly attributable to decreased rates of disease and increased nutrition, and the ability of human females to adapt their sexual maturation to environmental cues (e.g., health, food and shelter)."

http://www.cwhn.ca/en/node/39365

Certain treatments for leukemia might induce early menarche.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Mister Nobody posted:

What I don't understand is why was everybody worried about Monty getting in trouble for kicking the poo poo out of Freddie, I mean he was in a coma and X certainly was going to rat him out, so who would ever link him to the crime?

The other people in the shop who witnessed him kicking the poo poo out of Freddie. The owner, the staff, whoever looks at the security camera footage which shows said aforementioned poo poo-kicking....

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Zaphod42 posted:



In real life only like 5% of gunshots are fatal, and even if its fatal very few kill you instantly. Even if you're shot in the heart you're going to bleed out for like 40 seconds. But in almost every single movie and television show, its just "bang.... dead". You'd have to get a headshot for that to be true, right through the brains or brain stem. But who needs science? This is fiction! :v:


And by contrast, knocking someone out with a casual blow to the head is trivially easy to accomplish, and doesn't result in serious injury.

In real life, if you smack someone in the skull with a blunt object hard enough to knock them out, that guy's going to the hospital, and he's going to be there for a while.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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FELD1 posted:

I was under the impression that the weight of the sword and the force of the swing would cave in plate armor and kill your opponent anyway. It was never really about slicing, right?


How heavy do you think swords were?

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Simply Simon posted:

No German will be caught dead driving automatic.

Except, you know, all the Porsches, Mercs, BMWs, Audis, and VWs that have double-clutch automatics. Which Porsche has helpfully abbreviated from 'doppelkupplungsgetriebe' to 'PDK.'

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Zaphod42 posted:

Interestingly apparently George Miller wanted Mad Max to be in Black and White. Some fans put together and B&W cut called "Mad Max Black and Chrome" and its cool... but I think I prefer the theatrical release in that case.

Yes. Filming in black and white you're going to light entirely differently from shooting in color, you don't just desaturate a color film and wind up with anything that looks like a film shot in B&W.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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It almost bothers me that this bothers me, because the film's such a masterpiece of comedy and craft, but it bothers me.

In _Young Frankenstein_, Froderick seemingly fails to reanimate the creature, and gives a little speech about how science teaches us to accept our failures with quiet dignity and grace, shortly before completely losing his poo poo. Restraining him, Igor asides to the camera "Quiet dignity and grace" and rolls his eyes.

It's the biggest :thejoke: ever.

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Mar 13, 2007

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/youngling
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Youngling

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Strom Cuzewon posted:

Both shield and gun go blammo. So all the Baron needed to obliterate the entire Atreides line is two send one suicide bomber with a laser into Arrakeen and shoot their estate. For all the detail Herbert put into the setting, he did ocassionaly just drop in some nonsense technology for the sake of it.

Shields weren't used on Dune itself because in addition to the bad interaction with lasguns, shields really pissed off the worms and they'd come from far away to eat whatever was generating it. There's reference to a Shield Wall, but that's just a plain old mountain range.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Zaphod42 posted:

I can't remember the book, but the film and TV show both definitely depict a shield around the capital city. But only the capital city.

Checked the book, he's right.

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Mar 13, 2007

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Inspector Gesicht posted:


In Frozen, Queen Elsa throws herself into icy exile and the conflict involves her sister Anna trying to talk her out of it. So why do need a bad guy show up in Act 3 to get the balls rolling? Unlike most Disney villains Hans doesn't get his own song, isn't especially powerful, and is pretty much divorced from the real conflict. Barely anyone knows him all that well and he scarcely does anything in middle act. He can't help but feel disposable.

That was because of script rewrites. Elsa was originally the villain, and Hans was just trying to save the villagers, but then they rewrote it to have Elsa and Anna be sisters and Elsa not really a villain so they needed to shoehorn Hans into that role.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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rydiafan posted:



How does this guy use those goggles?

He chose poorly.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

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Your Gay Uncle posted:

Could you just make a polyp juice potion

Ewwww.

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Mar 13, 2007

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Taeke posted:

I loved Prometheus. Then again, it was one of the first films I saw in 3D and me and my friends got shitfaced because we had the theater all to ourselves.



On the basis of alcohol and friends, _Pet Sematary 2_ is the best movie I've ever seen.

I have also never rewatched it.

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Mar 13, 2007

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Light Gun Man posted:

Are there existing acids that work that fast, on that many materials, and have an obvious bright color?

No. But in the Aliens universe, there is, because they comment went they cut into the facehugger and its blood melts through multiple decks of the ship: "I haven't seen anything like that except, uh, molecular acid." So an acid like that already exists.

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