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Joementum posted:In case you were wondering, moderate Democrats are still terrible. The good thing about alot of the NDC is that they don't have a spine, beat them around enough and they'll fall in line.
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McDowell posted:The need of an outside force is a big flaw in accelerationism's reading of history. In the past there was a clear contest of narratives (free market west vs. communist east, segregationists vs. integrationists, etc) where the democratic process tries to find a third way. My big problem with it is its ignoring of how people can make change if they actually try to build grass roots, yeah the system is against you, but its not Sissphyian to oppose it. People in general know the system is very sick and want it to change, and giving them the correct alternative really does change things for the better. Just look at how Neoliberals are being pushed in Chicago,neo Liberals can be put in their place within the party, and trying to only concentrate on getting the one true progressive(TM) elected president really doesn't accomplish the change necessary, the Dems will not have a Reagan like figure till the party as a whole has been changed.
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Mar 7, 2015 22:11
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Quidam Viator posted:No, no! Trust in the people of this thread; our current level of activity and the intensity of our current actions, combined with our rosy prospects for 2016 are the best we can possibly achieve. You start acting like we don't have time or doom is impending and they might call you the A-word. Yep lets instead just let the Kochs destroy the world. Rather than do everthing we can to undermine the "new de3ms". Take over the party, and do everything to take every state office we can while ruthlessly using the law to jail the GOP who are corrupt. Might even push the extreme types to try their second american revolution they threaten and remove a bunch of monsters from America permanently. No instead don't do anything and let these monsters have a stranglehold on America because obviously doing nothing ensures that when the poo poo hits the fan the people will come to us, and not some theo fascists. About Florida, what I will say is we must accept it will fall, its just to little to late. What we must instead do is work to mitigate it, have refugee camps, and fine tun FEMA, while also realizing that voters do need to have a scapegoat for such situations. So the left must be ready to get some nails and some boards to crucify the libertarians when the poo poo hits the fan. Give people a reason to never want to fallow such a parasitic ideology again.
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Mar 9, 2015 18:05
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Quidam Viator posted:OK everyone, this guy's an ACCELERATIONIST. I will assume now that I have no further work to do; the label has been applied. Remind me, how is leash the New Dems, because they are a bunch of cowards who will move with the wind accelerationism? its how the parasite wing of the GOP took over. They took over the local and state party apparatus's in the 60-70s, it was only then that they could get Reagan. What I am arguing isn't accelerationist, its how you do politics. Now perhaps I am a bit of an accelerationist in the fact that I really do believe that America will not be safe till we have had some sort of attempt by the parasites to rise up, fallowed b the necessary security measures. But beyond that I really do not hold your views that we should do nothing and let the degenerates rule.
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Mar 9, 2015 18:20
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DemeaninDemon posted:Y'all need to drink some whiskey sours. Just do what I do, and troll tea baggers on youtube. Whats great is when you out extreme them, suddenly they want to pretend to be reasonable and suddenly just want to talk. Really shows why most of them can easily be made to fall in line.
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Mar 9, 2015 18:35
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UV_Catastrophe posted:I thought that the moderate, third way democrat approach was decidedly out of fashion after the midterm shellacking last year. Being that red/purple state voters generally prefer to elect actual republicans instead. http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/234224-centrist-dems-ready-strike-against-warren-wing The lickspittles are scared that the rank and file has decided it no longer needs them, so now they are whining to the publications that will listen.
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zoux posted:We all ridiculed him for thinking that wearing glasses would trick people into thinking he was smart, and then it worked Who beyond stupid teabaggers thinks this?
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Mar 10, 2015 21:36
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icantfindaname posted:Just loving arrest the Congressional Republicans under the Logan Act, suspend elections and fix the drat country already Obama. He can assume the title of Caliph too, and use that leverage to reign in ISIS Also open up the FEMA camps, and invite the UN to bring order.
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Well two of the three are completely unabashedly loving over the American people, can you blame them? If theleft wants people to trust government it has to start locally and then work to change national ideas.
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Mar 11, 2015 22:13
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Amergin posted:Nobody cared except for Mother Jones and the LA Times and the NY Sun and Mother Jones again and the House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. Well yes people cared, but did it have any actual negative effects? Did it prevent Cheney from continuing to be VP?
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PDP-1 posted:This lovely thing just popped into my news feed. It's for sure not going to pass, but it's amazing to see it even exists in 2015 and it looks like it'll be legally required to waste a bunch of time and money before it dies. I know I am kind of to the right of the forum, but considering that we do get alot of our values from the KJV, I wouldn't be against allowing sections of it to be read in a literature class to study its effect on general English literature as a whole. Although how is it legal to even gather signatures for implementing a law saying "kill this x group"? Although maybe someone should fallow the guy around in a brownshirt get up saying how they agree with the law and think it should apply to jews as well. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Fried Chicken posted:in theory, I'm in full agreement. You could teach a course on idioms from the bible alone, much less getting in to its role in influencing wider literature, art, culture, law, and history. I argue for it because I want people to have a good understanding of their culture. I certainly do not want it being taught in History classes that the founding fathers wanted it as the law of the land.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:13
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McDowell posted:People who say rights come from God should be detained indefinitely. I'm sure an army of forest critters will bust them out of Gitmo and the FEMA camps. People who say rights are natural should also be. Both are really funny concepts.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:08
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The Warszawa posted:The major problem with this is "whose culture?", especially if you're arguing for the KJV in a country where the largest single Christian denomination in the nation doesn't use it. Our culture, the anglo saxon culture that even when the country no longer can trace the majority of their genetic roots from Britain it still is subsumed in.
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The Warszawa posted:That's a highly regionalized statement even if you accept the premise that immigrants and first-generation Americans are either equally subsumed or proportionally less of the country or the validity of the plural possessive pronoun. Compare the prevalence of Anglo-Saxon culture in Connecticut versus Florida versus California. Alright please tell me how our culture is not a Anglo culture, seriously I would like to know because while WASPs may largley no longer exist the literature that WASPs brought forth and brought over still dominates our culture.
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CommieGIR posted:As long as those ideas were presented equally, they were still of the opinion that the Church was right, they just were not willing to throw him into bondage over his ideas yet. Yeah being killed for being a closet Arian. The church killed him for a reason it killed alot of other people, not for believing Copernicus.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:43
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Majorian posted:What is the gay version of an Uncle Tom, I wonder? A uncle Rohm.
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Mar 25, 2015 23:13
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How is she racketeering?
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Mar 26, 2015 01:15
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Turnquiet posted:QV's accelerationism may not be the answer, but long ago I realized that being a I long aqgo accepted it won't happen fast enough, but then I get alot of my ideas from Oswald Spengler.
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Umm Pence also supports a needle exchange.
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Mar 26, 2015 22:07
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Khisanth Magus posted:You know, I've seen lots of stuff about "recall Mike Pence" on facebook over the Indiana discrimination law, but I really feel that this is losing sight of the forest for the single really tall tree. In order for the law to get to his desk it had to go through the Indiana Legislature first. If Indiana residents really want to show that this kind of law is not something that the state stands for then maybe they should make a concerted effort to get those legislators out of office. Maybe they need to be called the DFL?
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Mar 26, 2015 22:52
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His Purple Majesty posted:Why dont we just support the Green Party? They seem to have pretty good policy and they aren't ran by craven lunatics Yes antivaxers who out of principle oppose our best way out of oil are a great people to support.
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Mar 26, 2015 23:56
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Accretionist posted:What's the best thread for TPP chat? I'm reading that apparently a recently leaked and still-classified section will permit corporations to sue governments for impinging on profitability which is pretty nuts: If this is true all I can say is this is why I feel totalitarianism is fine in the defense of democratic values. If you really do advocate such insanity as this you really do deserve a decade or two behind bars, no questions asked.
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Mar 30, 2015 01:10
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RevKrule posted:What the poo poo is going on with the Missouri GOP??? Someone got their hands on a deathnote. Really we should require these anti gay bills to say a business must up and say no fags on its window and website. I mean that's a nice compromise then their upfront.
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Accretionist posted:Indiana sentenced women sentenced to 20 years for miscarrying Look I may be pro life but in these cases I will always side with the mother. Because what happened is between her and God. Seriously I hope they can get this law appealed and her a pardon because this is just outrageous. Best of all even if someone would support this lovely law the prosecutors had no actual proof that she intentionally miscarried, I mean in this case all you have is that state saying "she miscarried", no actual people saying that she told them she was planing on killing the fetus, because we say without any corroboration this is not proof. Seriously gently caress this law. Fried Chicken posted:The trial is way WAY more hosed than that short article makes it appear. The police interrogated Patel sans Miranda after she'd just gotten out of emergency surgery. They then got a warrant and searched her cell phone and found texts in which Patel expressed a strong ambivalence toward her pregnancy, and a desire to end it, and these were used against her at trial. Did she say, I want to end my pregnancy? Becuase if not, thats not strong evidince. Also Sans Miranda! Seriously wtf is up with Indiana. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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Fried Chicken posted:their "evidence" that it wasn't her miscarrying was that she texted the father about how she was scared and she didn't know what to do, that her family was upset, that she hadn't planned on getting pregnant, and she wasn't sure if she should have an abortion or give it up for adoption or carry it to term. How is that evidence? Especailly when they couldn't find any of the drugs they claimned in her system. What rational person in a jourey would convict with that? Seriously the police that interrogated her and the entire prosecutorial team should be fired. That reads to me like a women was confused, not someone who really wanted to kill her unborn.
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Fried Chicken posted:Well her friend also offered to buy her abortion drugs. But she didn't buy them. If she didn't buy them, they have no case. Seriously how can you with this ridulous law in place prove beyond a reasonable doubt she did this? I mean beyond, dead baby and she didn't go to the ER with it? THats preety haky if all you have is dead baby. Also good on the SEC, make them squirm.
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