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comedyblissoption posted:if i had time travel powers i would go back in time and warn everyone about climate change you already failed
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dex_sda posted:I mean that's certainly true, but that profit should be soaked up by capital and not find its way to the salaried worker in as huge a capacity as it does for computer touchers (absent all other considerations) tbh, i think it's probably because early internet computer touchers believed in things. basically all ancap or commie weirdos, and so you can get most of the tools for free as a quirk of that culture. this means things that make the products are collectively owned by the people who do the work
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Hodgepodge posted:unfortunately not being self critical and being a communist arent really compatible 
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T-man posted:Hodgepodge is the second best poster on the previous page thank you!
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Flavius Aetass posted:anyway just to clarify the line, because it will continue to get more complicated as this ramps up in the news cycle, it is the position of the mod team that what has been happening in Xinjiang province for decades is akin to cultural genocide and that it is Really Bad to deny that. someone who does not have 4 bans in two months will probably not be treated the same as someone who does. okay, so you're just following orders. fyi, ACAB
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Raskolnikov38 posted:so your decision with every gaupo and how r u post is: "this is fine and good actually" the mod of coupons is fine with those posts that's ultimately all that matters
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Mar 9, 2021 17:34
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Flavius Aetass posted:the difference imo is that genocide is a topic that gets people screaming for permabans, and not just your standard d&d types. it really is in everyone's best interest for C-SPAM to not be seen as the genocide-denying forum, but I understand there is a lot of nuance to all of this and I try not to jump the gun on anything. this is illustrative for the actual topic of the thread there's no nuance here, only execution of power because no one is going to be banned for supporting israel or bombing syria
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Mar 9, 2021 17:54
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Flavius Aetass posted:yeah i get how hegemony affects culture and the bounds of language and all but at the end of the day even if the mods agreed with this thread 100% we don't really have the authority to turn C-SPAM into a strict stalinist or maoist whatever message board i like the jump to stalinism here it's v. nice Flavius Aetass posted:and most of the users don't want that either you've never bothered checking whether this is true because it doesn't matter what the users want
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CYBEReris posted:does allowing synthesized conclusions from basic media literacy to exist in the discourse constitute stalinism now genocide: something that countries outside of NATO do stalinism: saying that Turkey genocided the Armenians
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thotsky posted:Why are trotskyists smeared as perverts again? I heard it was because of some old British dudes, but you'd think having to bring their politics into it is unnecessary. at least itt it's because of you op
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gradenko_2000 posted:(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) flabby eatass, go away
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ToxicAcne posted:So the Chinese version of the 60s? yeah i don't see how that actually leads to good things, student is a transitory status that turns into hedge fund manager apropos to nothing posted:anarchist to progressive liberal and outside of how much the person bathes, these are effectively the same thing
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Mar 13, 2021 00:03
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Dustcat posted:we narrowly avoided a fascist takeover through sheer luck on 1/6, and nobody in power seems too interested in preventing followup attempts ahahahahahahaha
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Dustcat posted:i mean if the criticism of that statement is that "we're already fascist" i guess i'll concede that point, but holy loly if you think having democratic congressfolk shot dead and trump installing himself as dictator would have just been business as usual, lmao your brain is pudding and filled with garbage op
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Mar 13, 2021 00:24
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Fortaleza posted:That's not even close to what happened on the 6th and the institutions of US power never in any danger whatsoever. but, but. the magic voting horcruxes or whatever the gently caress they were
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THS posted:when u have an extremely good and realistic material understanding of political power in the united states control point theory
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Mar 13, 2021 00:27
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Fortaleza posted:I'm convinced that capitol police made poo poo up and stoked the flames with rumors the whole time in a sort of "how dare you consider cutting our budget or disrespecting us at all" move. sure but at one point the US had a top marginal tax rate of 99%, keynsianism works for a while
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Dustcat posted:it wasn't about stealing sacred electoral texts, it was about shooting nancy pelosi and aoc and a few dozen other democratic congresspeople through the head and the ensuing chaos enabling donald trump to declare his victory over voter fraud with 100% republican support shut the gently caress up and get the gently caress out
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apropos to nothing posted:this is stupid bullshit. gently caress the mods once again, now and forever.
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Mar 13, 2021 02:47
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Victory Position posted:isn't it strange that all of the information about everything has to be condensed and completely sorted out and through a single man? a German man with such astuteness that he can be the entire voice, no, the rallying cry of a province unheard and unseen, known only to him and him alone, his cognizance and correspondence our window into an otherwise sooty and smoggy place unseen, whether by the firewall or the wall of fire thrown up by the assholes trying to fan these flames hey it worked for achmed chalabi
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:love to watch libs not give a single loving poo poo as anti-asian hate crimes spike big time. love that my wife doesnt feel safe walking downtown anymore because of crazed rants about china by people who dont even loving speak chinese. very cool tbh it rules that serious people believe that the State Department gives a single gently caress about human rights beyond utility as a weapon i know it's twenty years ago, but i remember, i remember when it became shittier to be a muslim or 'look muslim' in the united states, when friends had to worry about being alone. it's awesome that some people still can't feel safe having big beards, wonderful that people are still imprisoned without trial in Guantanmo, that there were never any weapons of mass destruction and Colin Powel is good now instead of a name damned forever like everyone else, i guess i'm supposed to forget that Chelsea Manning revealed that the state was perfectly okay with giving children away as bribes to Afghani warlords. or forget the liberation of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen. or that that the state department is fine with gulf states that are based on slavery, where women have no rights, where no one has the vote
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comedyblissoption posted:awaiting the mod consensus on whether or not it's okay to deny obama and biden are genociders even if ironically since my cspam poll has gotten some clicks (troll or otherwise) denying this you can save some time by throwing the bitch rear end posts they've made itt into a markov chain generator, it will make just as much sense as whatever twenty paragraph capitalized manifesto will be vomited up the position exists, the justification does not. the second is not necessary and will be fabricated as needed
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Hodgepodge posted:i really chilled about capitalism when i realized that while we causally speculate about the viability of humanity and life itself in the face of capitalism re: climate change, capitalism by definition will collapse before humanity and the biosphere. marx simply didnt have the information to determine the fatal contradiction in capital, the destruction of the reproductive capacity of its resource base. yeah but we're not dead yet bitch odds might be long and death is certain but that's how's always been since we crawled out of the filth. maybe it's just passing time until we fail but i'd rather do that than certainly fail
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apropos to nothing posted:the grey forums are as a rule a terrible place to exist and is why I stick to the pink forum where joy is allowed. there are sitting us congress people who call them concentration camps which imo qualifies it as a mainstream and not at all fringe position to be putting forward even for liberals but the mods do not want any actual debate or discussion to happen in the debate and discussion forum. even in this the fyad-lite joke politics forum the mods are ridiculous and heavy handed and dont take any input from the community so i shant be posting here much if at all anymore. free larry, they all act like i and others are saying how dare you punish him but its the ban specifically, hes poor as poo poo and will never pay to be unbanned, dont know about the other couple people. if it was for a week or even the month thats still unfair imo but they will come back eventually but now theyre just gone. the whole forum is like this where every sub and even thread becomes its own clique or echo chamber so theres no sense of community left and people are just very quick to remove people forever at the slightest provocation and often just because a mod is pissed and doesnt like them. i know it will never happen but mods & admins should be elected and recal|able instead of completely unaccountable and as long as that's true you'll have Love Democracy Or Else combined with banning to win fights
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Brown moses/robert evans are probably creaming their pants at a chance to use state department resources to rig an election. it absolutely owns that to even talk about things freely i have hope for things to happen in minecraft
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really queer Christmas posted:You dont need this, there should just be a better way to remove lovely mods than "make enough noise in QCS that Jeffrey/admins comes down off the mountain and hems and haws enough to do something". And good luck if that admins in a bad mood lol. you need something, some lever to get people with power to do what you want. karening only works if the people on the other end care that you are complaining. nominally this is a comedy website so being funny was a valiant effort, but in the QCS thread HF was banned for making a joke this what the immortal science predicts and what do you think happened? admin reads a truly hilarious thread, later finds that the sass was actually correct, and then bans a poster for joking and correctly says to everyone that they don't have to care what other people think
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Tiler Kiwi posted:i think the selection process of having to shame mods into recompense, and that mods select new mods, eventually ends up with a staff full of shameless dunderheads or people who get way too invested into their forums position. burnout claims everyone else, not counting those who are sane enough to never accept the position in the first place. yeah this insightful too, the lese majeste is the recompense for the stupid garbage and handling insane people. here's another crazy idea, pay people (could be coffee money, just depends on how much time it takes) for thread janitoring
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Victory Position posted:There is a transparency in guessing the number that is completely lacking in the current system of mod appointments. i would take the ancient greek tradition of choosing by lots and laughing at who ever got stuck with the crap job over comedyblissoption posted:a forum cop is someone who enforces their bad decisions and doesnt tolerate sass even when the community overwhelmingly tells them they suck rear end
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A Russian troll farm posted:I'm going on posting strike. I'm going to withhold my good posts and only make bad posts until modding improves and the posters are freed please start soon!
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Ferrinus posted:i'm guessing the mods think they're doing the equivalent of probating or banning people for holocaust denial or similar hate speech. personally i think it's fine to just evacuate that kind of thing from the forums by executive fiat; the real question is how to get across the idea that they are unknowingly furthering racism when they think they're quashing it i think the mods aren't actually scholars in any meaningful sense and so are falling back on cultural knowledge which is ultimately whatever the state department says and state does not care at all what's true or just. countries that are majority slave states are good because of realpolitik. brutally murder and chop a journalist up in an embassy? bomb & starve a nation? just a whoopsy doodle because of oil and arms sales this is to say i think it's foolish to think you'll reason anyone out of this one. no power means no one has to really listen. you'd be asking someone to believe that the news & gov't & media are full of poo poo, and that's not something you logic someone into
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THS posted:also i think he did take it seriously, at least on the level of not using buttons to settle weird grudges and petty annoyances. that’s more serious than whatever the gently caress most of them seem to be doing *sniff* you shee that by not taking the moderasion shreiously you are more sherious than those who do. this reversal, i like it
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Lady Militant posted:I registered on SA to post in D&D because at the time i was fascinated by how people actually talked about things instead of screaming bloody murder at each other which was what I had come to expect growing up on the internet i think the good part of this for you personally is that are a ton of STEM-lords that are absolutely miserable because they achieve everything they were told to achieve and yet they still feel hollow. it's a consolation to be aware that people are the valuable thing in the world, and i truly think you are lucky for realizing it early
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Ferrinus posted:depends on what you mean by caste. they really do want the percentage of CEOs who are black to match the percentage of homeless people who are black, or at least most of them do. what they don't realize is that this is impossible why is it impossible? race is contingent and socially constructed, of course this is possible. the question is why should anyone who won't be one of those CEOs care?
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Ferrinus posted:the sorting of humans into constitutionally worthy vs. unworthy in general, and race in particular, are constitutive of capitalism. it's actually impossible within liberal ideology to justify having a ceos on one hand and an underclass on the other without constructing and reinforcing explanations for why entire swathes of people need to be homeless or imprisoned or whatever. even gesturing at "smart" vs "stupid" or "hard-working" vs "lazy" is really just talking about race but managing to say the quiet part quiet yes, but i think it's important to note that these particular distinctions are contingent and fluid. capitalism can solve 20th century racism at the cost of 21st century racism: the underclass is the necessary feature, not any particular configuration. this is important, because capitalism will pink-wash bombs and have black ceos while ramping up sinophobia and conflict with global south and to a liberal this seems like progress
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Ferrinus posted:i don't think it can, or will, or wants to, solve 20th century racism. anti blackness has been the fulcrum of white supremacy (this is a paraphrase of some writer whose name i don't recall) for basically as long as there's been an america and it's not going away whether or not there are black CEOs. in fact black CEOs help us make sure that the greater part of the black population continues to suffer poverty and police terror - see? if they really deserved not to be shot at random, they would've started their own company like X did i understand your take, but you don't think anti-blackness will and has taken on new characteristics? it's not the same clear distinction between the oppressor and the oppressed, as you noted. a liberal will point to the legal distinctions, the media representation, statues torn down, and say 'see this is solved' and they will be wrong, but the manifestation will be different even as the causes remain the same if there is an cent of profit to be squeezed from dissolving society as it was, it will be done. it is entirely possible to shift the category of the Other arbitrarily since none of the justifications actually matter. this is the true source of the shifting nature of whiteness, why those on the outside can be folded in without a trace
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Ferrinus posted:what was funny to me is seeing actual reactionaries just sink to their knees in despair because disney was posting black squares on social media during the george floyd uprising because, oh no, all the corporations are woke now, whiteness is going to be abolished by the end of the fall. don't you realize that disney's on your side?! if you think the structure is immutable, someone has to suffer. moloch must be appeased. so if you stare at the cracks in your sidewalks and count how many people you know who die of fentanyl, you might rightly think you are bound for the furnace see i think you share a mistake with them here, disney was never on their side, but it catering to them was a sign that the victims were not going to be them. now that they are less favored because their streams are polluted and their brains are rotted, because they are unnecessary to the rape of the earth, they will sent screaming into the belly once the last bit of copper has been pulled out if only mickey mouse loved them again they would be saved
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Atrocious Joe posted:There is a white supremacist pedo elite in charge of the US, and they aren't going to leave on their own. They'll lay the groundwork for their own demise, but workers have to actually push them out. I think "ID pol" is good when it's emerges from communities upset at the special oppressions they face. It's rarely expressed in a precise Marxist manner, but people being pissed off at the unfairness of the capitalist system is good. It is just a starting point, but it's a pretty good one. it may be good but it's not revolutionary. barrack obama is windsurfing on billionaire island, only descending when it's necessary to crush unions or soc dems. white supremacist pedo elite is perfectly willing to have him
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Ferrinus posted:2. i believe you that nietszche rebuked explicit antisemitism, but criticism of master morality vs. slave morality and their applicability to the socialist project - which is ultimately founded on the observation that society's losers, rejects, and cast-offs in fact decisively outnumber and form the power base for the winners and heroes - doesn't really rely on nietszche's personal faults or virtues and is certainly applicable to the way some people talk about including e.g. the disabled into left organizing dictatorship of the proletariat, master morality or slave morality 
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Ferrinus posted:well, it doesn't. "left-identitarianism" is a tradition going back as least as far as the combahee river collective. if you read the CRC statement you won't find them claiming that no one can possibly understand them, but that a focus on their specific position will actually help the broader left movement how is that working out exactly?
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to be less snippy it is completely correct to say that saying 'black lives matter', despite seemingly specific, is the universalist position and the supposedly universalist position of the 'all lives matter' is actually very narrow. if you focus on particular issues, those can drive solidarity this is completely at cross purpose with how intersectionality is expressed culturally, which seems to be a mechanism for middle aged white ladies to sell books
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