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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

gradenko_2000 posted:

I don't think it's outrageous to suggest that it was irresponsible of the media to uncritically report about "EMAILS!!!" regardless of the actual merits of the claims, the case, and the facts of the investigation.

or Trump's billions of dollars worth of free air time was a factor

I don't think you can ignore how the media affected the result, but since the dems couldn't have done much about it they should look to things they could have done better

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Volkerball posted:

I thought his legacy was going to be Syria but welp. Lol

Yeah, his legacy is going to burn.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
has he really reneged on anything yet?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

ChainsawCharlie posted:

People have been saying that Hilary should have focused more on her firewall states but wouldnt a 50 state stategy imply that the messaging would by necessita be more broad and appealing to working class people?

She didn't visit Wisconsin at all, which in hindsight did not help either option.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
it's not quite as simple as people switching to Trump

in Michigan Clinton was 300k down on Obama in 2012., but Trump was only 170k up on Romney. In Wisconsin Clinton was 230k down on Obama, and Trump got within 1000 votes of what Romney got. In Ohio Clinton was 380k down, Trump was 180k up. Similar in Iowa (Clinton down 160k, Trump up 80k)

if people switched from D in 2012 to R in 2016 then a lot of former R voters didn't bother at all (which is a real possibility)

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Slamhound posted:

Serious question: Is there any election post-mortem wherein the people who voted for Trump are in any way, at least marginally responsible for Trump winning?

They are responsible, but it's incredibly depressing (and probably wrong) to think that it was an inevitable result and that nothing could have been done better by the Dems.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
you know when he went to "black" areas but actually spoke to white people?

and you know how his message was "what the hell do you have to lose"?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

crazy cloud posted:

lol you know how he got a higher % of african-american voters than Romney

yeah, and worse than Bush did in either of his elections

"Clinton less successful amongst black voters than Obama" isn't some massive surprise

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

crazy cloud posted:

Agreed

and yet 2 weeks ago we were all exchanging lols at the "DJT says 'my african american' to the 1 black dude at his rally" and at the "DJT polling at literally 0%" in detroit

maybe the truth is somewhere 👏in👏the👏middle

that's all completely irrelevant to my point, which was that Trump's message was "things are poo poo and I can fix them, what do you have to lose?" and he was most open with it when he was (nominally) talking to black people

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Yinlock posted:

didnt they do the exact opposite of this

:thejoke:

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Yinlock posted:

you know its a sign of strong leadership when your aides have to talk about how to keep you distracted so they can get anything done

so you're saying he's definitely staying on twitter?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

a.lo posted:

what are you talking about? haven't you seen the boat loads of muslim refugees off the coast?

the solution is to put them in concentration camps on a nearby island you can bully

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Schnorkles posted:

turns out that even if you deregulate all of the things coal isn't profitable at all sooo

is there a reason why we (Australia) have done so well out of coal over the past 10-15 years and America hasn't?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Schnorkles posted:

a lot of american coal is really lovely coal too from my recollection, though i am no expert in coal

yeah, I know our (export) coal is pretty high quality which is why it get used a lot in steel production, but I wasn't sure what else was a factor

shipping costs being one of the ones I missed

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

mystic pimp posted:

Alex Jones deserves a cabinet position for all his hard work fighting the infowar this election cycle.

make him press secretary

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
she's not really the 45th FLOTUS anyway, several presidents have been bachelors or widowers

:spergin:

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Dolash posted:

And why is Christie still on the outs, again? I thought he was promised AG but apparently that's going to Rudy? It can't just be Bridgegate, can it?
Kuschner hates him because Christie prosecuted his father for being massively corrupt (because he was massively corrupt).

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Typo posted:

of all the weird poo poo pivoting on the wall and doubling down on abortion is :psyduck: even for Trump

Trump doesn't give a poo poo about abortion one way or the other

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

he can't tell you, because then he'd lose the element of surprise

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Admiral Ray posted:

They won't be concentration camps, they'll be "immigration processing" camps where they languish for years without legal representation because DHS is conducting "background" checks.

you call them detention centres and you put them on some island away from the mainland (ideally some tiny country you can bully), then you bribe other countries to take them off your hands

trust me, my country knows its poo poo when it comes to this

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

THA TITTY THRILLER posted:

The burned out ruins of a trailer park still on the Michigan Democratic Party's list of "places to visit" is way too apt of a metaphor for this election not to be pre-ordained.
the best was still

https://twitter.com/AdamSoucie/status/796851202659061760

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Chunky Salsa posted:

Also, Don, this looks tacky as poo poo because you're only working with gold and creams

Get some muted green in there at least you jackass you look like you're afraid of color

At least go full Saints Row and go gold and purple

trump has no sense of style and doesn't realise that he has no sense of style

see also his lovely suits

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

StashAugustine posted:

didnt they walk that back like one issue later cause lol comics

nah, it's still going on

it was clearly set up as a temporary thing anyway

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

euphronius posted:

You mean Xe?

You mean Academi?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Pollyanna posted:

anyone here who's concerned about the future of this country should go check out Year Zero

it's really loving good and a really good primer on what we'll be facing

yeah, I've been listening to it a lot over the past few weeks

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Jose posted:

lol petreaus for SoS is a great troll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPxLgn9WTTc

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

StashAugustine posted:

I need nite crew advice, what's the second best nazi-killing game after Wolfenstein?
saboteur is kinda cool

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Turdfuzz posted:

are we ever gonna get a background again

I think Trump is against background checks

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

mike12345 posted:

and kanye is in a mental institution

makes u think

that makes a lot more sense than most other poo poo that is happening

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

MaxxBot posted:

Ideally you'd split the burden among many countries but i do understand that some countries have been totally intractable and don't want to take any.

there are only so many Pacific Island and SE Asian countries Australia can bully, we had to ship the last lot of boat people we got off to America

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Epic High Five posted:

Hudsucker Proxy was best Coen Brothers movie
dunno if it's their best but it's definitely their most under-rated

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

blamegame posted:

thats a really bad analogy

yeah, lynch generally has a lot going on in his films, they're not trying to be some minimalist statement (except maybe Rabbits)

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Baloogan posted:

i don't care for warhammer 40k or warhammer or any figurine based game unless the figurines are 100% accurate scale models of actual real weapons of war

40k is though

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

The Puppet Master posted:

was this reported anywhere? Not that I would be surprised.

Yup.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Serf posted:

I assumed they were 90s babies

I am undone

it's kinda "people who were 18 after the start of the milennium", although pushing that back to september 11 is probably a slightly less arbitrary thing

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

crazy cloud posted:

Reince is definitely going to resign before Trump's first term ends, first chance that Kushner and Bannon have to scapegoat him for this or that he's gettin btfooooooo

pretty safe bet really, chiefs of staff don't tend to stay in the job more than a few years even under good circumstances. There's only been 1 in the last 30 years that's lasted longer than a full term

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

AceRimmer posted:

Did you read the book before watching the movie? I think that made me enjoy it a lot more than I would have otherwise.
ironically the movie changes a few scenes to make alex much less irredeemable and then changes the ending so he isn't redeemed

kubrick is massively over-rated too

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

AceRimmer posted:

I will admit that I don't care for 2001 at all, I'm a bad nerd I guess

it needed an editor who would have stood up to Kubrick, it drags in so many places

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Baloogan posted:

And y'all think this isn't nuts?

it's not any more nuts than the past *looks at watch* 18 months

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

logikv9 posted:

there are too many ryans in politics

there needs to be a Ryan King to make it more confusing

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