Boner Zone posted:

lmao

The Brown Menace posted:

Lol my dude the president is a celebrity

And a reality TV/wrestling one too so you might have to go for the ol "beheading yourself with a chainsaw" suicide

Thoguh posted:

I thought the chair was a meaningless role. Why would anything change with him being named?

Gringostar posted:

susan saranson sucks hth

Raskolnikov38 posted:

John goodman was a better president than Bartlett in the the like four days he was president

logikv9 posted:

Brad woulda won if Janet didn't ruin everything for him

FactsAreUseless posted:

I also have problems with our alliance with SA. (I have issues with Israel's current far-right government as well but obviously Israel is a pretty complicated topic).

GlyphGryph posted:

alt is the new neo

Main Paineframe posted:

for the most part? whine endlessly on the internet about how the centrists haven't already handed all power over to them

HorseRenoir posted:

OWS's problem was that it lacked clearly stated goals and a path towards achieving them, full stop. They didn't need a leadership to function as evidenced by a decentralized movement like Black Lives Matter. The problem with OWS was that it was fundamentally built around a flashy but meaningless symbolic stunt that was unsustainable in the long term, and they had no ideas on how to channel that energy beyond "attention from national media -> ??? -> full communism now"

The left waiting to rally around a top-down charismatic figure is just another side of this, where the left would rally around a far-left presidential candidate every four years with no hope of winning as a symbolic stunt for media attention. Then they when that would inevitably fail, they say "well we tried but media/cops/whatever were holding us down". The only difference between now and then is that the fringe right has already given the left the gameplan on how to enact real change in Washington, and I'm under no assumption that the left would have figured this out on their own.

I've seen people unironically blame COINTELPRO for why the left is in such a sorry state in 2017 when the real answer is that the far left hasn't seriously tried to enact their goals in decades, because entryism is boring and hard and doesn't give you the instant attention and gratification that camping in a park or a vanity presidential campaign does

Main Paineframe posted:

Sure. Plenty of Occupy encampments didn't get busted up by the cops, and they accomplished just as little. The reason Occupy failed was because they had no plan for what to do if Occupying and having protest marches was not enough to meaningfully change the system. They needed to do more, and they'd never really considered that possibility because they grew up with sanitized, idealized protest stories where civil rights activists walked around with signs and gave a couple good speeches until racism ended forever.

Concerned Citizen posted:

https://www.nrcc.org/2017/03/05/rob-quist-montanas-bernie-sanders/

Lastgirl posted:

don't think I could do Seabiscuit tho

FuriousxGeorge posted:

Private prisons are another really stupid dem obsession. We overcrowded our prisons long before we came up with the private prisons idea.

The solution isn't going to be locking up people in public prisons like in the old days, it's that we need to stop locking people up and we need to let out the people we already locked up. Not just non-violent offenders either. We need to let out armed robbers and we need to let them work in the cubicle next to yours.

logikv9 posted:

i don't care for pancakes

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

y'know I hate and detest Hillary as much as anyone but this thread can get a bit crazy about the slightest mention of her name

like at this point I think the only thing that would satisfy y'all is if she publicly committed suicide to atone for her sins in some crazy bullshido ritual

Concerned Citizen posted:

oh no we've all been fooled

https://twitter.com/chelseaclinton/status/839679759994990594

Raskolnikov38 posted:

its not even been three months and they're already willing to destroy obama's only legacy project lmao

zegermans posted:

It's like one big toe, a big giant tent of a toe, where everyone is welcome

Neurolimal posted:

this becomes extra evident when you find out how many of them get conned into perpetual energy scams

zegermans posted:

Time for this thread to collectively decide well actually it's $20 bad dems keep undercutting us!

G-Hawk posted:

do you think booker went to a fundraiser with a bunch of education privatization advocates before or after the sxsw speech

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Obama also appointed Comey. What a mastermind huh cc

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

The Democrats should about face and pass this sack of poo poo healthcare bill

Imagine the looks on everyone's faces when they do that

It's gently caress over all of Trump's supporters

zegermans posted:

Here's a question: How do you sell medicare for all when that would make millions of health jobs redundant, when you're already losing elections because of a few hundred thousand miners/manufacturers

Vox Nihili posted:

next thing you know the government will be forcing you to insure your car as well. absolute madness

docbeard posted:

I'm as much in favor of Single Payer as anyone but no one seriously believes they'd be getting huge raises just because their companies could save a shitload on employee health care, right?

The Nastier Nate posted:

The kill whitey candidate isn't going to get drafted by party power brokers, but rather win in spite of them, just like Trump.

This is something I would like to avoid, because no matter how progressive I can claim to be on paper, as a middle class white suburbanite, I'll definitely be on the wrong end of the kill whitey platform.

logikv9 posted:

I think you'll find that Jimmy Carter destroyed America but nobody noticed yet

Concerned Citizen posted:

https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/841609854540238849?s=09

julian assange is the new ed klein

Main Paineframe posted:

Don't forget when Bernie made a big stand to get community health centers into ACA, actually managed to get them into the final law, and then they were one of the first things the Dems abandoned when austerity and budget cuts suddenly became priority number one

Condiv posted:

ugh they might still turn around

Shear Modulus posted:

I consider myself a centrist because I think society can reclaim the wealth hoarded by the .01% peacefully.

Bill Buckner posted:

Pancake covered sausage on a stick truly is the fuel our children need for their brains.

They're going to learn so much.

zegermans posted:

most of this thread is actually happier Hillary lost than sad that Trump won

paranoid randroid posted:

this thread does suck tho

Baloogan posted:

Scent of Worf posted:

Dems...are...???

ex post facho posted:

i mean assuming yellowstone doesnt erupt lol

comedyblissoption posted:

https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/631538115514007553?lang=en