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TulliusCicero posted:What the gently caress is a "moderate independent" voter? Where is this unicorn prancing along the American Great Plains of wheat? The only people who matter, according to democratic leadership. They're fine with change, as long as their taxes dont go up, their property values continue to increase, and their stock portfolio keeps going up as well.
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gohmak posted:Well they're right. The Republicans weren't going to wait for a Democrat to say something like this before they called dems gun grabbers. If beto didnt say anything, the Republicans would just make it up.
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gohmak posted:but they don't have to make it up because he said it. Theres functionally no difference between a dem saying it and the Republicans making it up. The dem base wont listen and the Republican base isnt even in this reality. Plus since hes not going to win the primary it could be spun as "yeah we aren't doing that, that's one of the reasons beto lost" though I'd agree it would be different if beto had a chance of taking the nomination.
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Cerebral Bore posted:https://twitter.com/alivitali/status/1195371809539002368 Relying on losing a chamber in 2022 so the second part can't/won't pass. Transparent fuckery.
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Barry Foster posted:Biden won't close those loving camps Biden would constantly be worried about what Republicans say about him he wouldn't act. Every time he would try to do something, the Republicans would call him "weak on x". In this case, trying to close the camps would get him called "weak on immigration" and hed cave like a cheap coal mine and leave them open. He also wouldnt complain when mcconnel held up his judges. He also wouldnt speak up when they hold open another supreme court seat. Hell, I doubt anyone but Bernie and maybe warren would speak up about that.
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Failed Imagineer posted:I love that Corbyn and Sanders' manifestos are feeding into each other. If by some miracle both of these lads get into office then I have some genuine hope that the world will not be irretrievably hosed That would be glorious. It would be like mirror universe Reagan & Thatcher.
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RasperFat posted:
If bernie wins the primary the "vote blue no matter who" crew will go to gigantic lengths to explain why they're not voting for bernie.
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sean10mm posted:I also think we're seriously lowballing how bad Trump's ultimate body count will be between Puerto Rico, Yemen, child concentration camps, pollution, global warming, hate crimes, deregulation, making GBS threads up the ACA even more somehow, etc., etc. Trump's damage will be slow, unlike Bush's 'start a war' damage. Trump's judges will gently caress us over for 40 years. They will allow some heinous poo poo. They may start allowing for some really bad poo poo.
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redreader posted:Holy poo poo, this was in a sidebar on the frontpage of CNN. Bernie's going to win. "Bernie Sanders could actually win this thing" https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/politics/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-2020-democratic-primary/index.html I wonder how much this will snowball. I'm sure there are lots of people who think "I like bernie, but he probably won't win, so I'll support [other candidate].". Once articles like this come out, it's bound to change some minds.
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:I stand by my theory that the major news outlets have finally achieved just enough self-awareness to know that the media "bounce" candidates get from positive articles are really the kiss of death in the long term, and are trying to use that fact to throttle Sanders' campaign. They're hoping that the initial bounce from their coverage is followed by a permanent drop in support after that cycle ends, just like has happened with every other candidate they've tried to push. I think it's more likely to backfire; the reason they dropped in the polls is because once the candidate was examined, people realized how poo poo they were (at least that's my uneducated guess/hope). Since bernie has more upsides when they go on about "the crazy guy who wants everyone to have healthcare" more people might support him.
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I feel like this picture captures the moderate Democrat in its entirety. "That $90k medical bill? We'll knock it down to $55k for you. You're welcome!"
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"We want this person to run against trump because we can see shes a garbage campaigner and trump will run circles around her." Why should Republican endorsements matter? These people lie more than they breathe.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:Sanders is a treasure and always will be. I will be so sad when he passes. If the gods don't hate us that much, it will be a huge state funeral in like a decade or so of an ex president as loved as much as fdr.
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ratbert90 posted:After a long day of supporting womens rights and fighting for equality, Bernie comes home, kicks off his shoes and looks around to make sure nobody is there. Basicall this https://youtu.be/60dFtPjk_I0
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rscott posted:Honestly I think the best thing for Sanders to do is just ignore her from now on, ghost her completely. Let her campaign flail and lash out as they fade in the polls, it's only going to make her look worse Agreed. He can't sink to her level. I don't think he even called her a liar, did he? I'm pretty sure he was just "hell no I didn't say that"
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oxsnard posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1218195035646242820 Is it them thinking they have the best shot against Bernie, like the reverse pied piper effect clinton did in 2016 to get trump the nomination?
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joepinetree posted:It is great that, simultaneously, the argument is being made that Bernie can't be the candidate because as a leftist he'd get crushed in the general elections, and that Bernie can't be the candidate because people who aren't democrats support him. An added third option is that up until now, convincing moderate conservative/Republicans was a reason we needed to nominate a moderate. Now that bernie is pulling them in, like you said, it's now a bad thing.
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empty whippet box posted:She is gearing up to hurt Sanders as badly as possible to try to give the win to Biden. Warren knows she cannot win, she is just doing this to stop Bernie just like every other dem. This is what I'm afraid of. A bunch of no chance candidates go into the convention without a clear winner so the first vote is inconclusive. Second round let's superdelegates vote so bernie gets hosed even if he had a plurality of votes.
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oxsnard posted:https://twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/status/1220739981657944070?s=20 I bet a few months ago Horse dude was probably all about the need to nominate a moderate to bring in Republicans too. Suddenly now that bernie can do it, they've changed their tune. I will love to watch them squirm when Bernie wins the nom.
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Mind_Taker posted:Maybe Biden would close the border camps but he'd do jack poo poo to combat climate change, he wouldn't aggressively stack the courts, he has already committed to do nothing to address health care, and he's certainly going to do nothing to address vast income inequality. Bidem will not close the camps. He might make moves to do it, but will cave like a cheap coal mine once the Republicans call him "weak on immigration". He will let the Republicans block all his court nominees and will destroy his own parts base to court Republicans with policy. Basically a more timid obama administration. Followed by a competent facist in 2024.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:“Bernie is my friend, and a great guy, and super nice. Vote for me, Tom Steyer.” Steyer comes off as a guy who thinks "I dont *want* to pay higher taxes, but if I do, eh, I'll be ok with it. Bernie seems like an ok guy." I'd never vote for him in a jillion years, but there is a non-zero chance he endorses bernie when he drops out.
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