Sanford posted:

The most successful messaging I've found so far is "if not for Tory austerity, about 200,000 people would be alive who are now dead. That's 1000's of empty spots on the sofa, 1000's of people starting to make two cups of tea before realising their mistake, 1000's of people rolling over in bed and reaching out for someone who isn't there, 1000's of families missing someone this Christmas who should still be with them. And this is when the tories were on form, never mind the chaos of recent months." The most negative response I've had so far is "I need to think about this" from someone who told me in 2017 he couldn't see himself ever voting not tory, never mind voting labour. It's a powerful message.

Angepain posted:

Ok here's my synthesis of mine and Tigey's posts. (also lol at that kelly edit i made ages ago coming back to haunt me and still being relevant after all these years. though i guess the party being referred to in the leftmost cloud has changed somewhat.) Those in the know let me know all if there's anything needs added/taken away, i'm not a mental health professional so most of this advice is second hand:

Hi everyone! In these wild times please remember to take good care of your own mental health. This election period is going to be an absolute emotional rollercoaster, regardless of the result. There is so much at stake, both generally in the country and personally for many of us, and there are bound to be further massive highs and depressing lows as the election carries on. There will be no shortage of things happening and people saying things and stuff you could be thinking about or potentially doing to help. There will be no shortage of tedious arguments where people speak past each other or wild brawls where people accuse each other of being responsible for society's ills.

In all of this it can often feel like you're obliged to pay attention to all of the stuff going on. It can often feel like you have to exhaust yourself in order to dedicate every last drop of energy you have towards the election. There may well be times when you find yourself unable to think about anything else, constantly refreshing livefeeds or searching out new horrible things that you know will make you angry or sad and that there is nothing you can do about. This isn't healthy - don't do it.

Please make sure you are taking enough time away from politics over the next few weeks to avoid damage to your own emotional wellbeing/mental health. It's good for you, and even if you don't care about yourself it's good for those around you as well. Whatever happens we're all going to need people who care about stuff, and we're going to need a good chunk of those people to be able to get up in the morning.

If you're feeling overwhelmed or need someone to talk to, there are details of helplines you can call here, here and here.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Anyway fellow threaders - here are some numbers which might come in handy over the holidays:

quote:

The right to punish the tyrant and the right to dethrone him are the same forms. The tyrant's trial is the insurrection; the verdict, the collapse of his power; the sentence, whatever the liberty of the people requires.

Peoples do not judge in the same way as courts of law; they do not hand down sentences, they throw thunderbolts, they drop them back into the void; and this justice is worth just as much as that of the courts.

quote:

I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land.

Bexleyheath and Crayford - Rolled Cabbage
Bristol East - Luxury Tent Carpet
Bristol West - mfcrocker, Barry Foster, Pistol_Pete, Rarity
Broxtowe - MikeCrotch
Bury St Edmunds - Cluncho McChunk
Chelmsford - Trickjaw
Cotswolds (yes, we do have one) - Yvonmukluk
Cumbernauld - mehall ('s partner)
Dulwich and West Norwood - maugrim
Ealing Central and Acton - Comrade Fakename
Edinburgh Central (s?) - Autonomous Monster
Edinburgh Central, Ipswich - Lord of the Llamas
Enfield Southgate - spiderbot
Glasgow Southside/Central - Niric
Havant - Last Emperor
Hertford and Stortford - Brovine
Hyndburn - Kegluneq
Leeds East - mrpwase
Leeds North East - Irving Washington
Manchester Central - Jakabite
Northampton - superLINUS
North-East Somerset (the long-shot campaign to unseat Jacob Rees-Mogg) - Darth Walrus
Paisley & Renfrewshire South - Sanitary Naptime
Rochford and Southend East - DesperateDan
Salisbury (and Salisbury Momentum, which is now a thing that actually exists) - Wolfsbane
Sheffield south east - Cast_no_shadow
South Cambridgeshire - feedmegin
South East Cambridgeshire - Stoic Fnord
Southampton (Test) - waffle, Nova88
St Austell & Newquay - Oh dear me
Stockport Central - Taear
Stroud - sebzilla
Swansea West - Borrovan
Tatton - Bundy
Watford - SpaceCommie
Wimbledon - chestnut santabag

Party Plane Jones posted:

Bobby Thompson: don't post in this thread.

VideoGames posted:

AoF please do not post in this thread anymore.

learnincurve posted:

Need something added to every OP. DWP have been told not to tell sanctioned people about this.

If you get sanctioned then to prevent your housing and council tax benefits falling like a house of cards, and in some case get access to a utility bill fund, call your local council for a "Nil Income Form".

Apraxin posted:

Tesseraction posted:

look. he compromised by doing it minutes after the shabbat finished

Pochoclo posted:

Does that mean that in outer space it's always Shabbat, or that it's never Shabbat?

Pochoclo posted:

Is space antisemitic?

Apraxin posted:

BTW, that Boris editorial in the Mail is *much* worse than the headline, he is promising some very bad things:

Drone_Fragger posted:

Has Jeremy corbyn ever approved of, or been to, space. That is the tried and tested test to determine if something is actually antisemitism.

Pesky Splinter posted:

I like how it's evolved:

Fantastic work Guavanaut

justcola posted:

-If you're on a metre, be aware that using the kettle is less cost-effective than boiling water on a hob (I think?)

OwlFancier posted:

my natural fur carpet.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

If you have more than one room, focus on keeping one room warm and sleep in it too.

Pesky Splinter posted:

https://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1200103328065175554

Pretty good idea, _{and excellent avatar material.}

Endjinneer posted:

Crap. 7 is the number of deadly sins. Bigamy, murder, voting tory, wasting good whisky, elbows on the table, leaving the seat up, and the other one.

OwlFancier posted:

I get fairly startled reactions when I do that in shops.

E: Help, not poo poo all over the place.

OwlFancier posted:

If you want a US comparison, imagine if the DNC was freely selected by the membership, and also the democrats were an actual party of labour and always had been save for a weird blip in the 90's.

Cefte posted:

poo poo like 'Mohammadean' is another level of fuckery entirely, and deliberately perjorative.

jackhunter64 posted:

Compare this to how hosed and dried-out Boris looked on Marr. I think I'll give vegetarianism a go.

Sanford posted:

I blacked out my upstairs windows with VOTE LABOUR and DENNIS SKINNER posters. My dad said “you’ll get a brick through your window if you’re not careful”. I looked him dead in the eye and aid “that’s more reason to put the posters up, not less” to annoy him, which it did. He said oh shut up. I win, in a very marginal way.

Today is my 39th Birthday. I would likke a labour government please. I am unreasonablay drunk for a Sunday but we had a big old fire on the allotment and not got to go to work tomorrow. Hooray!

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

but did they plan

unwantedplatypus posted:

In an alternate 2019 europe is a series of absolute monarchies ruled by senile nonagenarians due to the wonders of modern medicine and the strictness of feudal succession law

Bardeh posted:

wooger posted:

Meanwhile there are people shouting down this unimpeachably fine Labour pro-diversity video by saying “Where are the Jews”. As though you can even tell.

blunt posted:

There's enough press columnists on twitter 24/7 that I'd have expected at least one of them to do a "it's not true" post by now...

quote:

Jess Phillips: Prostitutes.

Azza Bamboo posted:

I think she's protesting the use of sex workers and prostitutes interchangeably, because while all prostitutes are sex workers not all sex workers are prostitutes. When the select committee comes out with a report on prostitutes specifically you can't assume its findings apply to any other kind of sex worker.

Braggart posted:

We need innovators to disrupt the market with professional mourner services! More pomp! More bloat! Show you really cared with our experienced banshee wailers!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

No need to reprint money (or stamps for that matter) - George VI coins were still a pretty common sight in change until very recently, and the relatively short half-life of banknotes (about a year, IIRC) means they'll not really be replaced any quicker if they're recalled.

Gruffalo Soldier posted:

Hola fellow Labour enthusiasts.

My wife went through the Labour manifesto and tagged every point by topic, which we then loaded into a web app for easy navigation and sharing. Hopefully it will be helpful for anyone sharing the information out to people.

Check it out - https://forthemanyfesto.co.uk/

Braggart posted:

I love this thread full of angry activists and shitposters

Tesseraction posted:

"and make sure to sweep away the grit in front of old peoples' houses on Wednesday evening"

ThomasPaine posted:

My partner's aunt is going to vote Tory as someone affected by the WASPI stuff because 'Corbyn says he'll sort it but he's lying' while 'at least Boris is honest" fml

OwlFancier posted:

Holy poo poo there's a left wing version of insane right wing facebook images.

https://twitter.com/MontyBestUK/status/1201476770903576576

Like I don't technically disagree with the point but I feel like it could be communicated in a way that doesn't make me want to run the other way.

OwlFancier posted:

I mean I'd be a little bit leery of invoking the holocaust to criticise austerity?

RockyB posted:

The tory response to public fear stirred up by a terror attack: Uhm, buy some twitter adverts I guess?

https://twitter.com/TerrorismPolice/status/1200776110780407808?s=19

Tesseraction posted:

"G'wan Leonard gently caress 'im up proper yeh, show this muppet how you northern types do bespoke gender reassignment on the cheap."

Archaeology Hat posted:

What are the requirements to qualify for Israeli citizenship?

Paperhouse posted:

"I keep hearing about how biological men don't have any physical strength advantage over women in 2019"

I don't think anyone has ever said this ever

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Never mind degrees or GCSEs, your wealth is in knowing what to do with a piece of cardboard or flexible plastic.

Rarity posted:

poo poo I just made the connection that that's where the idea for the original squirrel story must have come from

Miftan posted:

And those checks are a lot less strict than the checks to see if you're Jewish if, for example, you want to marry another Jew in Israel. It's real easy because Israel is fighting a demographic war against the Palestinians all the time.

Junior G-man posted:

The stupidity of this election may, in fact, kill me.

https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1201563169401036801?s=20

sebzilla posted:

I'm not sure, they'd have still benefitted from the OMOV rule change and the general mood for socialism in the membership. I don't think Corbyn was uniquely capable of taking advantage of those factors. He might have done better since winning in 2015 than the other possibilities, though. Who else was even in that group? Skinner?

XMNN posted:

https://twitter.com/OliverKamm/status/1201439416708935682?s=20

hmm what are Jewish people afraid will happen if Corbyn gets into power? pogroms? deportation? death camps?


it will prove everyone is antisemitic because they've decided he's antisemitic so voting for him is antisemitic because he's antisemitic?

I'm genuinely puzzled as to what the conclusion of this article is meant to be

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I've seen more than one melt claiming Corbyn's antisemitism drove David Milliband out of the party.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I thought he left in a fit of pique because Ed got the votes he expected.
Ed's a good lad and it would be great if he was in the Cabinet when Labour win.

kustomkarkommando posted:

Basically devolved administration's get money representing the increase in public spending in England on area under the devolved competencies of the regional governments but are not bound to spend it according to how it is spent in England - so for example here in NI things like Labours transport and education policies won't apply as these matters are devolved so the executive receives money proportional to how much is being spent in England but can spend it as they see fit.

Azza Bamboo posted:

Dad's hot takes keep on rolling.

"Labour's just full of unemployed people who want a free handout from the hard working Tory voters who'll pay for it all."

Thanks dad.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I didn't watch it, but I can imagine.
So many kids do not have a settled life to do homework, study, use a computer. Let alone being cold and malnourished doesn't exactly help intellectual activity.

Paulo Freire posted:

I didn't understand anything because of my hunger. I wasn't dumb. It wasn't lack of interest. My social condition didn't allow me to have an education. Experience showed me once again the relationship between social class and knowledge.

justcola posted:

SENSIBLE, the boring cousin of COMMON SENSE

Other countries have 'common sense' but its used more as knowledge of society passed down, whilst in this country its used more as an occam's razor to ignore a complex subject and go for the dumbest solution.