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PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

marktheando posted:

Trump is in power for at least the next four years,

Hmm...

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PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Communist Thoughts posted:

no, to be clear the media's line was "let them starve, its because they cant take care of themselves,"

the government's line was actively and purposefully starving them to death to clear the surplus population and make profits on food speculation

e: there was one governor in india during the famines who actually started a proper relief work, while thousands and thousands died all around him his whole province only lost a dozen people to famine.
he was crucified in the UK press and called back to parliament to be shamed. next time we caused another famine he did what he was told and let thousands die.

there was also a rich private UK citizen who was so horrified by the famine he set up famine releif out of his own wallet and managed to help hundreds of people survive. the UK government sanctioned him and sent the military police in to break up his famine relief.

What's a good book on the English capitalist genocide in India?

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012


Lol

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

On the talk of electoralism, it's important to remember that the victories won by labour parties across Europe in the 20th century, even such as they were, did not come about through polite competition in the marketplace of ideas, vying for the attention of atomized individuals with the rationality of your model of governance. That's liberal bourgeois electoralism and will only produce liberal politics.

The only way socialism can advance in liberal democracies is by bypassing liberal power structures and liberal media, disciplining the working class electorate to vote in lock step for their class interests. A labour party that's still competing for those votes on election day has already failed.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

the sex ghost posted:

[UK] I am not qualified to 'read'

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

namesake posted:

It'll be the juicy targets like poorly secured construction equipment which is demolishing a wetlands to add parking for a freeport which starts getting blown up and I'm fully in support of that.

If it's about directly attacking capital property and not random civilians I foresee it being crushed with overwhelming force unheard of in the 20 years of the WoT

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Zeroisanumber posted:

As a lover of history it's funny as hell that Britain has voluntarily cut itself off from major continental trade networks and the PM is getting rolled by the French.

I'm sure it sucks poo poo to live under it tho, and my heart goes out to all youse.

Revenge of the Continental System

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

PawParole posted:

[Chorus]
We are Britain
And we have one dream
To unite all people
In one great team
We are Britain
And we have one dream
To unite all people
In one great team

[Verse 1]
Our nation survived through many storms and many wars
We've opened our doors, and widened our island’s shores
We celebrate our differences with love in our hearts
United forеver, never apart

[Chorus]
Wе are Britain
And we have one dream
To unite all people
In one great team
We are Britain
And we have one dream
To unite all people
In one great team
[Verse 2]
So many different races, standing in the same place
So many different faces, moving at the same pace
We all stand together with pride in our hearts
United forever, never apart

[Chorus]
We are Britain
And we have one dream
To unite all people
In one great team
We are Britain
And we have one dream
To unite all people
In one great team

[Outro]
Strong Britain, Great Nation
Strong Britain, Great Nation
Strong Britain, Great Nation
Strong Britain, Great Na-a-tion

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Barry Foster posted:

I haven't actually listened to the song

:same:

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Is this Brexit

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Will the Italian team make it home?

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Shear Modulus posted:

how could jeremy corbyn do this to england

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

DesertIslandHermit posted:

drat Three Lions? I never knew they made a sequel to Four Lions

It's a prequel, duh

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

projecthalaxy posted:

They should make a competing app that sends you a ping every time strong Britain is a great nation

A constant brown note

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Raskolnikov38 posted:

that’s wasting perfectly good fiber, you’ll want to burn styrofoam for cooking heat

finally a reason to get a Guardian subscription

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Gonzo McFee posted:

Finally, Latin will no longer just be the paedophile handkerchief code.

I thought that was Greek

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Quotey posted:

globe britain great planet

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Relevant Tangent posted:

Aristocrat heroically rescues dog, does not repeat does not distend jaw and devour alive as is the custom.

Kinglet revealed as unpaid volunteer member of fox euthanasia service NGO, Internet swoons

PoontifexMacksimus has issued a correction as of 18:07 on Sep 28, 2021

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012


This gamon eating beans!

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012


Boris got Trump's rear end in a top hat charisma, Keir got the rambling non sequiturs

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Mr Hootington posted:

The British empire fell apart because you became an island of lazy pigs



i say swears online posted:

the plague did so much good for society

Literally the best time to be a worker in Europe since... Neolithic times? But fortunately we got the Renaissance to end that unproductive age and rationalize the economy and society

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

gonadic io posted:

the LGB (note the lack of T) alliance conference is happening yesterday/today and the discourse around it is awful

https://i.imgur.com/GdUHfXe.png

e: or Q, or in fact A, I, or + you're right sorry

There Are Two Genders And Three Sexualities

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

gonadic io posted:

Well funny story, completely unexpected, but wouldn't you know it but people keep unearthing posts from prominent LGB alliance members saying how they should remove the G and the B too! What are the odds

e: and every group there is called like "Safety For Women" or something and not one mentions the G or B either! How odd!

There Are Two Genders And Two Sexualities

How does being pro-Lesbian but anti-Gay even work? How do gay men make the streets unsafe for women?

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Nonsense posted:

AOC campaign manager, who later resigned in disgrace, wouldn’t let her meet Corbyn because he thought him an antisemite.

lol

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

gonadic io posted:

update on this btw, the uk has finally taken action: the guardian has removed this graph from their front page

guess they got a call

Keep calm and carry on. Panic helps no-one.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Nucleic Acids posted:

Boris Yeltsin speed run going well I see.

The collapse into breakaway republics is an obvious correspondence, but who is Gorbachev in this scenario?

Also, this implies Keith will actually come to hold power, lol

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

prefect posted:

drat, I didn't know Lowtax was Jewish.

About that...

https://twitter.com/Devon_OnEarth/status/1458751904364871683?t=vTOSo06MyxQF03h0U76TFg&s=19

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

projecthalaxy posted:

When QE2's will is read out, all the nobles are shocked when it's discovered she's left the crown to... Jeremy Corbyn??? :pwn:

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012


"Beds, Herts & Bucks"

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Quotey posted:

finally. having sex with the computer is now mandatory to prove you're who you say you are

Prima Nocta of the Digi-Lords

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Jose posted:

anyone who insults me is being antisemitic

im insulting you by calling you an antisemite

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

vaccine mandates are stalinist (good)

Drake no: vaccine passports
Drake yes: vaccine gulags

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012


Very telling, the elision of "gay space"

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Grape posted:

I have actually begun teaching feudalism stuff with mafia comparisons.
Really takes the shinebox I mean shine out of all the chivalry romanticism people get bombarded with about all that nonsense.

Any books on the topic to recommend?

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Nonsense posted:

His personal diaries reveal incestuous sexual abuse of his two eldest teenage daughters, incestuous relationships with his sisters, and sexual acts on his dog.[2][3][4] This aspect of Gill's life was little known beyond his family and friends until the publication of the 1989 biography by Fiona MacCarthy. An earlier biography by Robert Speaight, published in 1966, mentioned none of it.[60] Gill's daughter Petra, who was alive at the time of the MacCarthy biography, described her father as having "endless curiosity about sex" and that "we just took it for granted".[61][62] Despite the acclaim the book received, and the widespread revulsion towards aspects of Gill's sexual life that followed publication, MacCarthy received some criticism for revealing Gill's incest in his daughter's lifetime.[63][64]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6979731.stm

In Gill's case the outrage has not significantly undermined his status. The BBC uses Gill Sans typefaces in corporate branding and Westminster Cathedral retains its Stations of the Cross.

"There are people who said I destroyed the work for them because of what we now know. The feeling that what they knew had made those abhorrent as works of art," MacCarthy says.

"Since the book was published in 1989 his reputation has in fact increased. The [campaigners'] attitude was probably in the minority."

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

The statues are going to end up making paedophilia legal somehow

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2009/oct/17/eric-gill-exhibition-fiona-maccarthy

How did Gill's children respond to their weird upbringing? Petra told me, and repeated in later interviews, that the peculiar isolation of their upbringing on Ditchling Common made his sexual demands seem in no way out of the ordinary. Was this just what fathers did? Both she and her sister Betty appear to have absorbed the experience, making apparently good and happy marriages, bringing up large families. Their history challenges received opinion on the inevitability of damage done by child abuse.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

me and my fellow morons are bouncing up and down in our chairs unable to contain our excitement about the member of the british royal family thats about to be held accountable by the american jsutice system for real its gonna happen this time guys. we're making little fist pumping motions and saying stuff like "charlies is gonna kick andrew out of the royal family" to each other and drinking waaay too much soda

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PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Doctor Jeep posted:

how the gently caress do you not write but even conjure up such a sentence in your head, look at it and then go "yeah I'm gonna publish this in a national newspaper"

"Since these two women were not reduced to alcoholic wrecks by their abuse* the only possible conclusion is that bulk purchases of Filipino orphans is a net social good that outdated moralists have denied us for too long."

* NB: the family's adopted son was reduced to an alcoholic wreck, also was also pretty much cut out of the will. Guess his familial love was found lacking.

PoontifexMacksimus has issued a correction as of 18:15 on Jan 18, 2022

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