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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:cosmic crisps are the best apple I live in WA and eat fuckloads of apples. cosmic crisp is the best apple, confirned
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Vox Nihili posted:We got a 2015 Prius brand new for ~$20,000 in 2016. Hopefully it'll last until we die. That era was killer for small cars because they were being phased out for larger more expensive poo poo. We got a 2017 GTI Sport (the best GTI package in history, imo, with every possible upgrade that mattered but kept the plaid seats) brand new with a DSG auto dual clutch and mechanical diff for $21k. Aint no one ever beating that again, those were incredible times to be buying a smaller car. Getting a dirt cheap smaller car in the mid 2010s is the milennial generational equivalent to buying a house in 2005 in that nothing like that will ever exist again. Now it’s all expensive trucks and SUVs which are basically minivans for people too insecure to buy a minivan… Taima has issued a correction as of 19:32 on Mar 14, 2023 |
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Mar 14, 2023 19:30
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Don't you guys remember that we went over the "chatgpt predicts market crash" thing at the time it came out and it was obviously fake? I feel like it gained legs just because everyone shouted it really loud into existence. That being said we talked it over here like 2 or 3 weeks ago which in hellscape time is approximately 8 years. So whatever. that being said if it happens I'm not complaining.
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Mar 15, 2023 13:36
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WrasslorMonkey posted:“Can't rebuild the economy by condemning millions to poverty.” I was gonna say, did the UK not learn loving anything from the USA? We're not just making people poor, we're removing the bottom 75% of society from the economy altogether baby. Can't have a bad economy if the poors aren't in it and you socialize being rich permanently with no risk. We're literally taking capitalism, putting it into a blender, and pouring it into a feudalism mold. poo poo owns. Taima has issued a correction as of 12:30 on Mar 22, 2023 |
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Mar 22, 2023 12:23
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FistEnergy posted:food inflation of 18.2% Only 18.2% dude? I tracked my food bills and it's more like 50%. I plead with the god of number that food only rises 18.2%, that is some pie in the sky positive thinking fairy world poo poo for food to ONLY rise 18.2% You show me a person whose food bills only raised 18% and I'll show you someone who has actively been eating shittier food, whether they know it or not.
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Mar 22, 2023 12:30
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Yeah pretty much trust me dawg those days aren’t over in tech
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Mar 23, 2023 05:04
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:then they'd compress their nim bro, they never wanna compress their nim one thing is certain: contango.
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Mar 23, 2023 23:21
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MickeyFinn posted:Don’t drink coffee at all. You will be fine. It’s not like people are going to say “that person doesn’t drink coffee, they must like anime” and discover your horrible secret. coffee is one of the few compounds that has a veritable mountain of real, clear evidence backing up its actually pretty awesome health benefits.
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Mar 24, 2023 02:55
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MickeyFinn posted:Nah. There are some mild correlations. whoa you seem cool, and fun at parties
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Mar 24, 2023 04:52
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Lpzie posted:swapping all my money 💰 to the YEN 💴💹. this American experiment is over.... if anyone here was smart you'd dump the DOLLAR 💵📉 immediately what’s up with all of these presumably dnd weirdo tryhards recently
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Mar 31, 2023 03:57
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it’s hosed how you buy a can at the corner store and its $.99 for jizz but you skip over to the city and the exact same cum is in a glass bottle for $4.99 called free range organic semen?
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Apr 7, 2023 21:37
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SE Asia loves doing this poo poo and it was perfected by Japanese convenience stores. though this is a pretty rough example.
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Apr 14, 2023 10:07
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I am legitimately moved by how no one responded to Hoot's bait. You guys are pretty cool sometimes  Doomsday thread keeps proving it's a real one. I am sorry that Hoot crumbled under the pressure of... uh... like, whatever he did. Remember when he got mad that people were being doomer in the doom thread? What a chuckle.There's a pretty decent chance this thread doesn't need a mod beyond basic housekeeping, which given its activity is kind of amazing. Get it yall. Even as the internet crumbles SA will stay winning. It almost brings me to tears how we held together through so much while Reddit and Imgur and a million other shitshows are just worried about where the next dollar is coming from. I even think SA might become as popular as it once was; no one else does what we do. It's incredible and I'm tired of people talking poo poo on dead forum Taima has issued a correction as of 10:43 on Apr 21, 2023 |
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Apr 21, 2023 10:36
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Are PTO donations normal? That's so loving weird. In tech we avoid the issue entirely by having "unlimited PTO" that is politically fraught to use too much of, so in short, completely different and arguably worse problems, yay Hoot going crazy was not on my bingo card. The most hosed up part is that despite some whinging and general razzing of his modding, he had been largely accepted. Does anyone know what pushed him over the edge? It's just sad. It's such a huge self own. But I guess given his recent behavior, he really was the wrong person for the job. Feel better Hoot 
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Apr 24, 2023 11:39
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Mr Hootington posted:There was a Washington post article from 2020 or 2021 that talked about how economists believe the economy will be fine if the bottom 40% is abandoned. I can't find it at the moment. I remember Heather Long tweeting it out. thread titty
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May 10, 2023 02:07
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Yo just curious am I the only one who plays "guess the shrike post" lol I feel like my success average is pretty high, like 60-70%
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May 12, 2023 16:06
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this thread is good. When there is nothing going on, people post socially, because it’s fun. Hoot turning out to be trash doesn’t really change that and it’s bizarre that he’s making up his own fan fiction about what the thread is to make himself feel better, but obviously he has some stuff to work out.
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May 14, 2023 00:14
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Skinnymansbeerbelly posted:even the Costco thread's getting Doom-y Ah, yeah. I made that post, but I read this thread a lot so that's definitely on brand. I'm thinking about stopping though; the completely honest truth is that the world is getting a little too hosed. I don't know how long I've been reading this thread- many years- and it was always fun on some level to talk about the state of the world even if those things were, on balance, fairly negative. But the completely honest truth is that poo poo is bumming me out so bad lately. It's so easy to see that unless something changes, the world will be a pretty horrible place going forward. Too many bad things happening at once. It's all just a bit too real, I'm going to keep reading for now though and see where it goes. Just really, really upset recently at where things are obviously heading. We're lucky; we decided not to have kids and I thank my lucky stars every loving day for that. Maybe that makes me a bad person idk but I'm finding it harder and harder to read the Doomsday when the doom is so viscerally real and at our front door. We can see the shoe, we know it's going to drop, we just don't know when, and in the meantime everything is becoming steadily and possibly irrevocably lovely. anyways sorry I'll stop. I wish you all the best <3 this thread has an incredible duality where it's a place that we congregate to talk about the bad times, but it's ultimately friends talking, which has value. I guess in short, america is a land of contrasts and I think most people would take human companionship where they can get it these days. Taima has issued a correction as of 13:03 on May 15, 2023 |
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May 15, 2023 10:54
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Xaris posted:honestly, do whatever makes you happy while the shoe is on. stay at a four seasons in venice, have fun with your wife, snowboard while there’s still snow. personally, I think it’s somewhat funny, I’m perhaps too good at compartmentalizing (ptsd ftw), and declining material conditions are the vine of change to the grapes of wrath, so I think it’s interesting. I find it more of amusing and doesn’t phase me because the system should not continue. but definitely some people want to continue living in the status quo and that’s quite all right, not a knock, I get it I’m pretty comfortable despite not being a computer toucher and really don’t want that upset but also the capital hegemony has to change; one way or another. it’ll probably be for the worse but we shall see, which is why tis interesting times I appreciate your perspective friend, thank you. You've always been cool. Not a Children posted:I'm not joking when I say take a break from C-SPAM I think you are probably right. Unfortunately (fortunately?) I am a tech layabout who has at most like 4 hours of real work a day. Even that is a stretch, probably averages like 2-3 hours a day. Even though I work out/exercise every day, do pretty extensive cooking and such, there's only so much on my agenda and I can't play video games for 10 hours a day anymore at age 37. It gives me a weird complex where I know I contribute very little to society, but what am I supposed to do, get a shittier job on purpose? I completely sympathize with people in this thread who hate people like me, but it's not like I chose this, it just kind of happened because I'm good at computers like a lot of people who grew up on here. Of course, who knows, the way tech is going, maybe getting a shittier job is in the cards soon. I was just thinking about this the other day - as much as I hated my commute over highway 17 5 days a week, I miss going to the office and seeing people who I genuinely liked to be with. All of those people have quit or have been laid off (yay tech in 2023, we have laid off like half our entire office) but idk if work from home has been healthy for me despite how incredibly idyllic it looks on paper. I also had to move from the beach in santa cruz to the Seattle suburbs which has totally hosed up my outdoor recreation (was a consummate surfer and beach bro). On top of that I feel isolated, especially since my wife works in healthcare, she almost never works from home for obvious reasons. We live next to a bunch of olds, so we don't really have local friends. It's been 6 months though so it's not like we just moved here. I have nothing against old people but they legitimately (on average!) don't understand what the world is like these days. It's like they live in a different universe. Which is fine but how are you supposed to get on the same page with those people. It's also been hard to find like minded friends in general since we don't plan for children- don't get it twisted we really like kids, just not something we're trying to do ourselves. I guess if people have ideas on this front I would be curious to hear them as long as it's not like "go on Meetup.com my guy" The whole thing is depressing because I should be thankful and honestly deserve the guillotine but you would be surprised at how lame it can be sometimes in practice. Sigh idk I gotta figure my poo poo out. Anyways, thanks. Definitely spurring me to work on things. I'm not afraid of the world ending btw. It's the ceaseless "everything gets worse and nothing gets better, forever" that is wearing me the gently caress down, constantly. Anyways I won't post about it anymore, no one should give a poo poo about me when people have real problems. Cheers. Mola Yam posted:correct your thought Hah, trust. I play my share of games. Taima has issued a correction as of 11:09 on May 16, 2023 |
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May 16, 2023 10:04
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I appreciate the advice to unionize but I can absolutely guarantee you I would be shown the door in minutes. My workplace, like a lot of west coast tech outfits, is ultra-liberal in theory but intensely lovely in practice. We regularly donate to minority causes, but I have access to the backend of those transactions and they are all nakedly for-profit in some way or another. We do literally nothing for anyone without some ulterior cause, and frankly I think that's true of 99% of tech companies. Many of my coworkers are insufferably liberal. Yesterday someone told me that they cried during Ted Lasso last week because they were "so inspired by the pro-lgbt messaging" if that gives you any idea of the poo poo I have to deal with on a daily basis. I don't mind Ted Lasso but I ultimately keep up on it so I can act like a good lib during Zoom calls. We have unlimited PTO but it's constantly, and I mean constantly abused. You aren't really supposed to take PTO for much of the year. Infinite PTO is a total trap, but I think most people understand that by now. The only people who can take infinite PTO are the people who are dead confident they are so drat important they will keep their job pulling more than a smattering of PTO. Which creates an intensely unfair dynamic where certain individuals take lots of PTO while most people don't. We also don't extend this policy to hourly employees, even if they are full time and work salary hours in practice. Tech liberals have this incredible cognitive dissonance where they view themselves, often, as pot smoking burning man afficionados when they are actually cut-throat PMC dickheads. I learned this the hard way when I started in tech; you can never, ever imply that these people aren't changing the world for the better or they will throw you in the trash. It's literally my number one rule in tech: never, ever imply that someone who has power over you is anything less than fully virtuous. Don't get me wrong, tech is one of the last places to get a fair wage (though that is quickly diminishing right now). But people just don't really talk about all the ways in which tech workplaces are absurdly toxic and how performative everything is politically if you aren't natively that much of a BS lib. These people are true believers, but without living their beliefs at all, and they can and will melt down if confronted with even a small hint to the contrary because they know it, really deep down. Tech is a completely empty occupation and 99% of tech workers do nothing for anyone and are basically just rentier trash, including myself. It's poison to the soul, but the only alternative is to leave tech and live a much, much more precarious existence and not afford theoretically basic poo poo like healthcare and a house. Good times. Zodium posted:if you sell your labor to live, you are a worker. you don't deserve the guillotine, regardless of what idiots here or elsewhere say, and even if they aren't necessarily existentially threatening, your problems are real. you share them in some form with millions and millions of people, probably including most everyone around you. you're not supposed to get a shittier job on purpose, whatever that means. what job would you even get? there's no job you can get in the imperial core that doesn't facilitate the reproduction of capitalism. assess your resources, like the free time you have available as a tech layabout. use your free time to read marxist books, or hell, the marxism/re-education/organize your workplace threads if the books are a bridge too far, to organize the disjointed events you read into a coherent model instead of an endless cavalcade of horrors you can only passively watch. organize your coworkers. join a socialist organization. use whatever capabilities and knowledge and money you have to find people around you who need help, and help them. wallowing in guilt over your position in a system you had no business establishing and no control in helps no one, and it doesn't matter if you express that guilt with an approach strategy through doomscrolling c-spam or with an avoidance strategy through video games and other distractions. at best it allows the problem to fester, at worst it actively hurts yourself. Thanks man I really appreciate the perspective and you've given me a lot to think about.
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May 16, 2023 13:22
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Remember in the 90s and all that when people thought that poo poo meant something and there would always be the... "wise, experienced general who was rough around the edges but still had that dog in him" in every war movie and it was played completely straight. Then, like everything else ever, we figured out that it was officially procured xbox live cheevos and everything made sense all of a sudden Cool flair bitch. Glad you get "shirt achievements" for recruiting people into your MLM, do you get an exclusive mount too
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May 19, 2023 09:21
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:airpods are convenient but the sound quality is noticeably worse even compared to wired earbuds. fine for stuff like podcasts and audiobooks but not for music imo Sure but if you're interacting with people in any way, or outside for any reason, or exercising in any way, or need to hear anything around you, or you're in an airport or similar environment- all of these things are amazing with airpod equivalents. Then you factor in that literally 95% of all people don't care about sound quality (I do actually it's one of my major hobbies! But let's be real most people don't give a poo poo) wireless is a no brainer for them. So where does that leave us? If you really care about sound quality... don't mind having a wire getting in the way... you're alone and don't need to talk to anyone... willing to lug around audiophile grade headphones and the attendant cords... Then fine. But I think that's like 0.1% of people. e: even then, when I'm that isolated that I would easily enjoy wired headphones, I'm going to use speakers because they are imo objectively better than headphones. I own nice wired headphones and I can't even remember the time I last used them. gradenko_2000 posted:wireless devices need to be charged, is the thing Really not an issue for most people. Any decent wireless headphone will last for a super long time between charge, and any decent wireless bud will have fast charge where you get like an hour of listening if you stick them in the little case for 5 minutes. That being said if you're for example traveling to a place without reliable charging (not that many places in the world like that, but they exist) at least having a backup pair of wired buds can be a smart call. I keep some wired buds in my travel backpack for this reason, but I can't remember ever using them. A few years ago I stayed in the Corcovado rainforest in an incredibly lovely, completely open air bungalo because I couldn't afford anything better at the time. It sucked rear end and I don't recommend it, but even there we had easy access to charging. Taima has issued a correction as of 10:18 on May 21, 2023 |
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May 21, 2023 10:04
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Xaris posted:it’s not the best but it’s the best widely available and cheapest option. best bang for the buck Malted Mooshake is the goat but ill eat the coffee almond fudge
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May 23, 2023 23:29
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Xaris posted:Malt anything owns bones. it’s very underrated. there’s a place that does malt lattes here and kicks rear end It’s so drat good but the mooshake also has extra cream up ins which is the x factor. oh man I think I asked mrs taima to get some there might be one in the chest freezer
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May 23, 2023 23:41
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anime was right posted:lol every single company is gonna use an apple machine now I feel like you are underestimating the sheer cheap-assed-ness of many a corporate IT outfit. at our company I get a mac laptop because i am cool but 97% of all people get a shitbox windows machine that probably runs like 30% the cost of a properly fitted macbook pro.
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May 24, 2023 01:07
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Antonymous posted:they do not. net worth includes assets and stuff nobody has billions in cash. "richest man" #s are extremely bullshit whoa lmao thread title
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May 27, 2023 17:02
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webcams for christ posted:only FT seems to really be running with it. Bloomberg is leading with Russia/Ukraine and everyone else seems to be leading with the debt ceiling vote forbidden waffle maker
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Jun 1, 2023 18:18
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Have you guys been seeing this stuff about a startup offering a free television that shows ads in your house 24/7? https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/01/telly-free-smart-tv-250000-sign-ups/ I'm sure it's come up in this thread, but the more I think about it the more uneasy it makes me. This become a lot more common in the way that "0% interest micro loans so you can buy a loving toaster" became common as the bottom fell out of the bottom 75%. Something truly fascinating about this model is that the people who want the free TV the most are also the people who are the least valuable to serve ads to. I'll bet some people will be denied these televisions on that basis, but there are X factors that can increase the desirability of even a very poor user. For example, one of these televisions placed in a city dwelling is more valuable than one that is placed in the suburbs, which is more valuable than a television placed rurally. Foot traffic and population in cities means that secondary viewing (like when you have friends and/or family over) becomes more of a thing. Humans usually have friend networks composed of individuals close to their financial standing, but outliers exist, and if you're having some friends over for tea, that television is going to be serving ads, even while off, the entire time. In a sense I think this is the beginning stages of what I would almost call consumer socialism; as the bottom 75% fails to accumulate enough resources to survive, selling themselves becomes the solution to a lot of problems. A classic example of this would be something like donating plasma, but that's just the archaic first murmurs of a larger system that will likely develop. Companies will pay for every aspect of a human's body and time, and people will likely have no real ability to say no as conditions decline further. Another super interesting facet is that humans will become paid billboards (think screens woven into backpacks, shirts, etc) in return for a stipend, bonuses based on revenue sharing, and free clothing. This is nearly inevitable because advertising is going away for well off people and somehow no one is talking about this outside of marketing circles. The top 20% will be able to opt out of ads in their personal devices and lives; a lot of that has already happened. But think of the staggering implications here! The less that the upper middle class and above consumes advertisement, the more valuable that reach becomes. And that's the true value of people becoming billboards and having other public ad displays- not so they see ads, who gives a poo poo about that, it's about having these people butt straight into the lives of the people who are able to pay their way out of advertising. You will see systems where a user puts on clothing tied to promotional codes, with a battery backpack, and walks around the city while tracked by the app. They are paid for the promo codes that are used but also they get paid based on how many people see the ads and the background socioeconomics of the area the person exists in. It will all be extrapolated algorithmically to determine payouts. Another aspect is that people will likely not own assets of note; they will borrow these mechanisms from the companies offering them, and have to give them back should they not maintain revenue positive activity, such as loaned small automobiles and e-bikes covered in ads. As the great reset famously predicted, these people will own nothing. Of course the latter part about them being happy is bullshit though. To get this off the ground you will see major incentives backed by VC money like this "free" television, where people will actually make a living walking around cities. Just like all app hustles though, once the idea is normalized, all of the involved companies will cut payments to the bone. So for example right now you can get a free tv. Maybe next year you can get a "really cheap" tv. And it goes downwards like that. The sucking of all physical assets northward is going to have so many weird implications.
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Jun 2, 2023 14:17
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I think a really big industry of the future is going to revolve around humans with no or very little economic value basically forcefully injecting ads into the mindspace of the "no ad class" via piloting public advertisements into their field of vision and auditory range. Since presumably only a small fraction of society will even have discretionary income, getting advertising into their brain will become extremely valuable. You can already roughly determine the economic value of a consumer by how many ad-laced services they use. Though that's only REALLY true for milennials and younger. Gen X and older are kind of a crapshoot because the technical accumen in those generations is just low in general. This is especially true of boomers who are not even used to the concept of paying more for fewer ads and probably wouldn't be interested in paying more for that benefit even if they did. Their brains are frozen in time from a world where they would literally watch 30 minutes of television of which 7-8 minutes were ads. Which is loving unreal to think about. And you PAID for the privilege of that structure with cable television!!! Imo it's only a matter of time until companies will know the economic reach of an individual/family and literally pay them. So for example if you're in the top 10% they'll pay you $500 a year to take and use a TV that is also free. That's how important and valuable ad reach becomes when the people with discretionary income also pay for no-ad everything. Taima has issued a correction as of 14:56 on Jun 2, 2023 |
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Jun 2, 2023 14:44
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RealityWarCriminal posted:fond memories of using an ad supported free isp in like 2002. it's back baby 100% but it's a complete inversion. Internet was free in 2002 because inequality was less entrenched and, crucially, the people using the computers were relatively well-off. If you could capture some eyeballs serving Netzero ads, you could be reasonably sure that such a user had some level of discretionary income. Now it's coming back for the completely opposite reason, which is that a huge portion of society is becoming near-worthless from a capitalistic perspective- all of their money is being drained by monopolies and incredibly unfair leverage of things they are required to own and use like housing. That leaves a very narrow path for discretionary consumer good and services and has so many implications beyond this discussion. But a very real implication here is that the bottom levels of society only have function for discretionary products in the sense that they can be advertising boards for people who do have money.
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Jun 2, 2023 15:05
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Get a Raspberry Pi, throw Pihole on it, and throw it in a closet. Right now anti-ad tech works largely because content providers are more uneasy at the political ramifications of hard-stopping people divert/skip ads than they are at the prospect of losing some high-competence techies who probably wouldn't bite at the ads anyways. This is all changing. I would like to have this discussion again in a year or two because I think it will be a different landscape for adtech. Why is Youtube gearing towards a hardball approach to anti ads? Why is Chrome trying to get people used to the concept of ad blockers becoming far less effective? My firm belief is that at some point in the near-ish future, it's going to be hard enough to bypass ads (on major content serving platforms at least) that the vast, vast majority of people will either pay for no-ad or give up.
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Jun 2, 2023 16:01
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Willa Rogers posted:ze boomer eez a strange creature with ze brain frozen in ad-saturated media. I'm sympathetic to your overall message about boomers Willa but it's ridiculous to argue that their patterns of living and consumption aren't largely calcified, or that their expectations and habits aren't set by the norms in which they grew up, which is something that happens to everyone as they age. There's really no need to lash out like you do. F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Because Google owns both companies and they've decided that their bottom line is more important than user choice. That's the problem with a single company controlling so much web infrastructure. The list grows every day. Reddit being the most recent salient example. https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2023/06/01/death-by-api-reddit-joins-twitter-in-pricing-out-apps/?sh=1ebecde7606d Business Gorillas posted:I want to give a lot of smiles to whatever YouTube exec made the call for random ads to be like 20 dB louder than the content I'm trying to watch It's the loving worst. I work in marketing and hate adtech with a fiery passion that makes the general public's hatred of advertising seem cheery and quaint in comparison. If we made advertising illegal tomorrow under penalty of death I would be 100% ok with that even though it would basically destroy my ability to support myself. So make no mistake I'm not coming at this from some kind of sympathetic viewpoint, I'm just reporting the reality that is simply my everyday experience in the marketing/ad space and the directions that it's clearly headed in. Taima has issued a correction as of 16:28 on Jun 2, 2023 |
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Centrist Committee posted:I think you could turn this around the other way: the means of production are so advanced and there is so much capital sloshing around that the difference between what people need to live and the rate of profit the imperialist class expects is approaching a rupture. conditions may soon allow for goofy ideas like a solidarity economy to take off, where normal people exchange goods and services at somewhere near their nominal labor cost while the rest of so-called economy implodes chasing the whales hoarding all the money That's an interesting take, thanks for posting. I think you're dead on with bartering re-emerging as a community ideal, which would be awesome. Xaris posted:so a few things over seeveral posts here. There is indeed an increasing bifurcation of economy where the focus is on the whales; however, adtech is largely garbage with negative ROI. Just no one wants to peek behind the curtain to find that out because its the modern house-of-cards thats propping up all of the internet web2.0 garbage. The whole "adtech doesn't work" thing is a generalization that I don't agree with, though plenty of firms do just kind of push money at it, for sure. As for advertising not working because of class association I will respectfully disagree; you are definitely right that it won't work for every industry or company, but it doesn't have to. A lot, and I mean a lot, of companies have entire arms of marketing that rely on consistent exposure and nothing too complicated beyond that. The idea that this type of exposure is a hobo wearing a Lululemon shirt is kind of short sighted imo. I respect your opinion it's just hard to not form a nuanced take on these matters when I do this professionally at a very high level and just... like... this is what I see every day in terms of where it's going  though I completely understand and respect that your average person doesn't want to give the space any credit. I don't either, gently caress advertising, but capitalism isn't really about doing what you love unfortunately, for most people.The Demilich posted:I go out of my way to not buy poo poo that is in ads cause ads themselves piss me off. Ads suck so bad. They also work better than a lot of people want to realize, which is probably the shittiest single thing about them. atelier morgan posted:you're not rich so it doesn't matter what you (or any of the rest of us posting in cspam) buy Yep there is absolutely an element of that, sadly. Advertising to the masses isn't dead yet and certain industries like soda brands, low cost snacks and such will likely never leave the space, but the direction is definitely towards marketing mattering less for most people as their disposable income as a cohort recedes. Taima has issued a correction as of 10:01 on Jun 3, 2023 |
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Slow News Day posted:The funniest thing is that the only reason I had the hunch to ask ChatGPT in the first place was because earlier that day I had read a post in this very thread that totally shat on ChatGPT and called it terrible and useless or whatever, and I followed the principle that Goons Are Always Wrong. So thank you, thread. I've seen this so much and it's always funny. If your job is so fake that ChatGPT seamlessly automates it, you realize what the long term implications are right? I do think its legimately cool though that in the meantime some people will be able to do their entire job in 30 minutes a week. Milk it while ya can and spend your free time learning something that can't be automated by a capuchin monkey shrike82 posted:the past 14 years (since GFC) have been a bonanza for almost any form of "normie" investing "guess the shrike post" remains the best game to play on the forums. I swear you can loving smell it at this point. Is a post tone deaf, implicitly condescending and primarily created to make people feel bad? That's a Shrike original babyyyyy Taima has issued a correction as of 13:24 on Jun 3, 2023 |
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We just had our first brush with the veterinary system and gently caress anything even related to medical care. Our male cat has a UTI; 36 hour watch/flush and could cost just under $5,000, wtttffff dude. I haven't felt as powerless as I did in the moment of going from "let's fix our sick cat" to "fixing your cat will start at 3 grand and that's if everything goes perfectly". Sigh.
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Homeless Friend posted:emergency vet? ur def gonna get owned. Yep it was insanely serious, immediately, with no warning. We had him at the vet within 20 minutes. We figured it would cost a decent amount, sure. We even knew he had a UTI or suspected it due to his behavior. What I wasn't prepared for was not just the money (5k in this economy are you loving kidding me?) but if a cat gets a UTI, that's it. They need additional care in various ways for the rest of their life and there is a high chance of recurrence so this could also happen again at any moment, amazing. He's barely a year old and we rescued him and his sister only 6 months ago. Rectal Death Adept posted:Recently at work someone's dog needed vet care and they ended up having to spend $4,000. I don't think I fully appreciated that until now honestly, I mean, I knew it; we're regulars in this thread, after all, but the whiplash of going from "oh he'll probably need some antibiotics and to get flushed and stuff" to "your cat is owned forever and this one thing, which could happen again next month, is 5 grand" was wild. It wasn't the situation so much as, the doctor was like "you can either get your cat care or we can basically just flush him and toss him out and it's still a grand". Something about the callousness of the situation just destroyed me and I broke down in the office which was not pretty and I don't think I've ever sobbed like that... ever? Certainly not in public. Anyways that's all I'll say about it, this isn't the place, I just wanted to vent about healthcare and don't understand why we built the system this way we can afford it but it will mean major compromises and that's if it never happens again.gently caress capitalism forever. I completely understand now why people go destitute caring for their animals, and I'm glad we don't have kids because that's all that's really allowing us to afford this (and I would probably get some kind of PTSD complex if my kid got sick like this, it's bad enough for the cat). Homeless Friend posted:My old mans dog fell rear end backwards into 90% coverage insurance via grandfathering and the very 2nd day it went into effect went and did 8k worth of surgery lol. luckiest POS alive. Went on to get another 4k surgery (amputation), then 5k radiation a year later. We'll see what other crap we can pwn the insurance company with. Contrast that to the dogs sister, which had jack poo poo coverage did not get so lucky and got put down 4 years ago due to cancer lol. I'm so sorry. I'm so glad he got taken care of. We did discuss getting him on insurance, but I assume it would be impossibly expensive now that he's already had a UTI at the stately old age of 1 year. Would it still be feasible or now that he has pre existing conditions are we just screwed... Taima has issued a correction as of 10:04 on Jun 11, 2023 |
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FizFashizzle posted:if AI ever does make serious headway into the medical field it will be for poor people without insurance. It will join the likes of chiropractic medicine and aromatherapy; ineffective alternatives for people that are getting hosed over by the system. This is 100% the call and honestly for a lot of people it might be better than what they have now? Is that a nutty opinion? I have known people in my life who are scared to talk to a doctor. I have known people who find it "too real" to go see a doctor for a big problem and would rather let it get really bad and force the issue. I have known people who can only afford the kind of care where you feel like cattle and are ushered through a lovely diagnostic where no one takes you seriously, especially when it would require more money. These models will suck, but would they be worse than a random person googling and then making up their own medical diagnoses? Cuz to me, that's the alternative. Just having some nominally authoritative way to receive a quick, free "diagnosis" feels like it will be better than nothing for people who are, for whatever reason, not enmeshed in the system or otherwise thinking about their long term goals. Which has always been one of the worst problems of poverty right? You can pretty much guess the financial ability of a human being by how much they intentionally arrange and plan for the future. Not just because poorer individuals don't have the time for introspection, but because they're rightfully scared of thinking about their future in a world that left them behind. Maybe under those conditions having a bot who can provide some kind of "better than nothing" diagnosis is preferable. The stratification of society continues and once again Idiocracy gets it right. If anything I'm struck by your cheery outlook that such a thing only "might happen". To me it feels inevitable, and like everything else, it will start at the bottom 25% and insidiously trap the bottom 75%+ over time. Taima has issued a correction as of 09:32 on Jun 14, 2023 |
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“milk” feels like an imprecise term. Discard or placate feels more accurate? The intention overall is to disenfranchise the lower classes while stripping away education slowly. All services are replaced with hollowed out Fischer Price trash versions while those services are consolidated and improved for the well off. The ultimate goal is to offer the least acceptable but still “present/existing” option. That’s why the wealthy can’t stop cumming over the prospect of replacing everything they can with AI. It’s the optimal system for systematically detaching the bottom 75% from human services. All AI healthcare has to do is give an answer and also get poor people to shut up, first and foremost.
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All of the remote workers I know including me are only using fewer amenities over time because things like going out to eat is outrageously expensive and then they default you to a 25% tip while the portions and quality go down. Wife and I ate at a breakfast place last weekend where the lowest selectable tip was 22% and the default one was 26%. we aren’t going back. I know you can click Custom while the waitress stares you down but gently caress that. They are free to gaze disapprovingly while I custom select a measly 20% tip and I’m free to never go there again. I’m a good cook and holy poo poo has that paid dividends lately… There’s a restaurant near us that has a sign on the window that a 25% tip is rude, you cannot make this poo poo up. The sign implies you should tip 32%. We have maintained our diet of high quality food, but only at the expense of eating out about 90% less. I honestly don’t even understand who is regularly eating out these days or otherwise utilizing all of these services. We can’t afford it and we both make figgies and have no kids. Is everyone just putting this poo poo on credit cards? It’s loving bewildering. e: btw the shiitakes from Costco 12 vs 16oz thing has rocked us to our core, is nothing sacred. that was the only place to get reasonably priced shiitakes 
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Middle America has lots of restaurants that are supposedly good and "a gem" of the place you're visiting, and will have super amazing 4.5 star yelp averages but if you look into the reviews it's literally always the same thing: -90% of people with names like James and Tim saying it's the best thai food they've ever had - 10% people from cities with established ethnic populations who are like "this was trash? I am confused" It's such a funny dynamic. I totally get it, like, no one is expecting these places to be amazing. It's just amusing how this exact scenario plays out everywhere in the exact same way. Taima has issued a correction as of 17:44 on Jun 14, 2023 |
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