BiggerBoat posted:

Oh, I'm sure there are plenty of typos. I can't type for poo poo. I read it over and had my wife read it too so we did the best we could. Hopefully, people will get over it and forgive me. PM me what you find and I'll go back in the OP and edit it.

Thanks.

Gazpacho posted:

Remember Rush did the NFL desk for a while then lost the job for talking race. That indicates to me that he's not quite faking and doesn't have much chance of "moving on". Also a guy with that kind of success tends to take on debts.

Zwabu posted:

I gorged on right wing media yesterday, listening to Rush, checking out every right wing site I could think of (Daily Caller, American Spectator, National Review Online, Drudge etc. - couldn't even bring myself to go to Hot Air though).

The emerging talking points seem to be:

-The Takers are now in the majority, that's why we lost (sort of changing the "47%" to 51% instead)

-"It's not your Mom and Dad's traditional (WHITE) America anymore (Dick Morris, Bill O'Reilly and others). They outnumber us now."

-Romney lost because he wasn't a True Conservative and didn't get True Conservatives to turn out for him as much as needed.

-Romney ran a virtually flawless campaign and did everything he needed to, you goddam True Conservatives hosed us by not turning out for him because My Ideological Purity

-Romney had all the mojo and momentum but lost it when he didn't attack Obama on Benghazi, WHY DIDN'T HE DO THAT (this is like a ubiquitous talking point now, I heard it first from Krauthammer on Fox's election coverage but it's everywhere now)

jadebullet posted:

So my father and I always seem to get into debates about the state of the media. He listens to conservative radio, reads the drudge report, and watches Fox News religiously. He was absolutely obsessed with Glen Beck, viewing him as 100% right.

He admits that Fox does have a conservative bias, but it "doesn't even begin to remove the liberal bias of the other networks" so there is nothing wrong with that.

My biggest problem though is that he keeps going on about how the Drudge Report is 100% unbiased because it just posts links to articles.

Does anyone have any tips for things I can tell him that will back up my side of the argument that the media's focus on sensationalism and ratings generation makes it so that you can't base your political ideals around what they say, especially Fox News, Conservative Talk Radio and the Drudge Report?

For context, I explained to him that I have based my views on the current political climate on History, and actually looking up the issues that are brought up.(Most of which turn out to be outright lies by the media, or things being blown out of proportion. Like Obama-phones, or how much of an "absolute failure" the Stimulus was. [hint: it was beneficial]) His response was to agree with me that that looking issues up was the best way to know what is going on, which is why he reads the Drudge Report.

Nimmy posted:

Iran-Contra is the absolute worst thing for me about conservatives. They don't stick with the party line of "well Reagan didn't know", they leap all the way to either "NOTHING HAPPENED" or "so what?"

Sydney Bottocks posted:

Crossposting from the Republican Rebuilding thread, Maddow's slowly starting to beat Hannity in the ratings.

SedanChair posted:

If this is sincere, the scales have just fallen from my eyes and I finally, finally understand right-wing authoritarians.

e: I knew about "truthiness" but I'd never seen it actually articulated as though it were a legitimate rebuttal to a fact check

BiggerBoat posted:

Here it is:

http://www.newsmax.com/US/oliver-north-heroes-proved/2012/11/20/id/464841

How is this guy a hero again?

Kiwi Bigtree posted:

Because Fox News is a money-making scheme more than it is a power-structuring scheme. For eight years it was both, but that time has passed. They want dumb old white people to buy gold stocks and lovely life insurance. Given the choice between continuing to milk the wealthy and ignorant, or actually controlling public policy, they are sticking with the milking.

EDIT: I feel like we should start taking bets for when a Fox News Anchor will say the N-word Dr. Laura style.

swampland posted:

All I can think watching this video is "God, what a loving coward you are." If you're going to be that guy saying poo poo about how white culture is superior then be that loving guy. He may be hateful and lovely but at least that guy is genuinely lovely. Glen Beck is either scum who doesn't believe that poo poo or scum who really does and knows how abhorrent it makes him seem and knows that tip toeing around it is necessary. That "I'm just wondering..." bullshit makes me madder than explicit racism because for some reason people accept it as serious discourse instead of writing it off as the racist poo poo it actually is. If you have a polarizing position either state it and bear the consequences or gently caress off.

Chitin posted:

Wouldn't happen that way, just like how a bunch of senators saying horrible poo poo about women/rape didn't lead to a big epiphany about how misogynistic the party is; it was just "a few bad apples" that got thrown out of office.

Twisted Perspective posted:

Chear up. It's the Dominionists next!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism

redshirt posted:

Also, I am in awe of any of you who can critically listen to Rush. Just a few seconds and I feel ill. I'd rather listen to religious stations than right wing talk radio.

Mr Interweb posted:

I'm a little conflicted about the Carrie v. Fox News beef.

On the one hand, I loving HATED Bruce Almighty.

On the other hand, Fox News is quite disgusting.

Argh!

Dr Christmas posted:

Here is Alex Jones talking about how Rachel Maddow looks like a dude.

Amused to Death posted:

Never stop FOX news, never stop.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/hannity-guest-bill-cunningham-erupts-at-democrat-tamara-holder-know-your-place-and-shut-your-mouth/

radical meme posted:

These days, Mike Steele sounds more like a fiscally conservative Democrat than a Republican, hell he could be in the Obama administration based on some of his policies.

Vertical Lime posted:

So while this thread was closed, it was reported Cumulus is expected to keep Rush, but they're still dumping Hannity:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/08/limbaugh-to-reup-hannity-to-split-with-cumulus-source-170639.html

And Michael Savage claims he gets to replace Hannity on those stations.

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Savage has actually made a great deal of progress on the BT section of LGBT, he's not perfect but he's come a good bit from 'don't transition while your kid's in school it's selfish'.

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Yea in fairness like, four years ago it was totes valid to say 'Dan Savage you have said some backwards rear end things and that is not cool', it sounds like the main point is more 'and now we as a community should be happy he's changed rather than beating up about the past' though.

Marlamaid Swordhand posted:

Rush decided to rail against socialism and what is taught in schools by announcing that he's writing fanfiction about his tea company mascot.

Oh no, a substitute teacher with a talking horse that can time travel is gonna tell me that socialism failing is how Thanksgiving came into being.

Josh Lyman posted:

I'm not sure where to ask this, but considering the inaction in the wake of Sandy Hook, will we only get gun reform if someone kills Wayne LaPierre and/or his wife/daughter at an NRA meeting?

Internet Webguy posted:

Everyone's favorite right-wing film trilogy is having a little trouble with funding and is asking for help in the most ironic way possible.

Scene between Jeff, Peanut, and José posted:

Jeff: Look, you're just gonna have to be nicer to José.
[Peanut and José start conversing in Spanish.]
Peanut: Ah, como estas usted? [How are you?]
José: Muy bien. [Pretty good.]
Peanut: Quieres algo de beber? [Want something to drink?]
José: Pues si, bueno. [Sure, all right.]
Jeff: [to Peanut] What are you doing?
Peanut: I'm speaking to José in his native tongue!
Jeff: Well, don't do that.
Peanut: Why not?
Jeff: Well, it makes me feel... left out.
Peanut: [looks at Jeff] HAH?!
Jeff Dunham: I don't speak Spanish!
[Peanut and José look at him. José turns from Jeff, imitating the theme music from The Twilight Zone.]
Peanut: "Picture, if you will..."

Damonic posted:

It's not all bad. This thread has convinced me to get over myself and apply for some much needed SNAP benefits. I just finished the form, and will be visiting the office tomorrow.

JerksNeedLoveToo posted:

When I first looked at that picture, I thought "boy, those two look an awful lot alike!" and felt bad for being one of those 'all those people look the same' racists.

Then I looked it up, and Joaquin Castro and Julian Castro are brothers. Twin brothers. So now I'm not sure if I'm racist or just stupid (probably stupid).

Spacedad posted:

So many conservative books are faked onto bestseller lists and have the system gamed with phony slobbering reviews to create fake buzz. Sometimes they even make buying shitloads of their books part of some multi level marketing bullshit they try to rope their senile audience into.

Hell - Palin was buying up her own book with her PAC.

Joementum posted:

The Weekly Standard has finally uncovered proof that Obama is gay and the identity of his partner will not surprise you.

Dr.Zeppelin posted:

If they're internally consistent about it, libertarians at least can usually be persuaded to support unemployment benefits because it gives people more of an opportunity to find work that they are most suited to instead of being forced to take the first thing that puts food on the table out of desperation.

That Irish Guy posted:

But yeah, I guess what I'm saying is: at least (actual, internally consistent, and not simply conservatives hiding under a lovely guise of "neutrality") Libertarians find problems with conservatives, at least they have enough critical thought to not be drawn in by that ideology.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

An actual ideological libertarian is a lot closer to socialism than they are to the modern Republican party, just because they're already thinking about politics in economic terms. Some of them come to realize the flaws of the libertarian economic model and others don't.

BrotherAdso posted:

I dunno, it's worth noting that Libertarians, especially young libertarians, do have a leg up on traditional conservatives. Their media (Personal Liberty, various PaulTard sites) is better, too. For only one simple reason: their libertarianism usually extends in a consistent way to social and personal issues.

Joementum posted:

Ah, but it sounds like neither you nor your friend know the actual Libertarian argument for abortion rights: evictionism! Here's Walter Block explaining it at the Ron Paul rally in Tampa last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnWlWdl-Dq0

icantfindaname posted:

I actually enjoy conservatives digging their hole deeper in regards to social issues that they will lose in short order, because watching them panic and crash is the only conservative media I can stand to consume. Listening to them talk about issues they're not losing on tends to end in me screaming at the radio.

Guilty Spork posted:

Admittedly I only saw the clips as they were presented on the Daily Show and Colbert Report, but Kelly came off as extremely serious and non-jokey when she said that. If she did in fact mean it as a joke, as far as I can tell she managed a wholly un-joke-like delivery, to a degree that would be hard to manage on purpose.

Huey Freeman posted:

Excuse me. Everyone, I have a brief announcement to make. Jesus was black, Ronald Reagan was the devil, and the government is lying about 9-11. Thank you for your time and good night.

quote:

John Randolph May 10, 2012 at 11:23 pm

Most of the following is almost verbatim from the podcast:

Don’t let them sucker you into answering their questions and defending yourself against their accusations of being a Nazi, racist, etc.

If someone says you’re just an evil racist, an example of what we would do is:

“If every single black country and only black countries had been flooded with non-blacks and they were told they had a race problem and the only solution to that race problem was for them to intermarry and interbreed and assimilate until there was a mocha-colored humanity left where only black countries used to be, and if a black person had a problem with that genocide against their race, and speaks up, would you call them nasty names like “racist” too?

Point out the double standard, with a question. Keep pressing, keep asking…don’t let them squirm away.

Race Realists posted:

Yes, you loving tard.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

Dividing America = Triggering conservative racism by unintentionally trolling them with harmless pablum.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

One more year and trolling the RW with super bowl commercials is going to be a tradition.

beatlegs posted:

No doubt given the current ownership he will be replaced by someone equally lovely or worse.

Joementum posted:

Probably just another hour of The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer.

Pharmaskittle posted:

AC is alright, but Gupta at least tacitly endorses pseudoscience way too much for me to like him. But then, that's one of my big pet issues, misleading people about medicine. He really fits with CNN, going for flash over substance with little to no critical thought. "Wow, maybe eating avocados cures cancer, who can say," etc.

Swan Oat posted:

Wikipedia posted:

Asked about that, Mr. Donohue walked to a frame, prominently displayed on a shelf, containing a still from the 2007 episode of the animated television series “South Park” in which Mr. Donohue was parodied: In the picture, Mr. Donohue is shown wearing the pope’s tall hat, his unmistakable receding hairline and square-framed black glasses captured, uncannily, by the pen of the artist.

“In the episode, they have me overthrow the pope because the pope is a wimp, and then I take over the church and give it some guts,” he said, making a fist.

Pope Donohue also sentences Jesus to death for heresy. Mr. Donohue does not mention that.

“But in the end, Jesus kills me,” Mr. Donohue said with a jolly laugh.

Eponymouse posted:

So I Googled Galt's Gulch and found out that it exists! It's in Chile (since it is apparently the most economically free country in South America. Thanks Pinochet!) and instead of magical metal, they grow lemons.

Wikipedia posted:

In xeric lands [desert, usually defined as less than 250 mm of annual precipitation], a gulch is a deep V-shaped valley formed by erosion. It may contain a small stream or dry creek bed and is usually larger in size than a gully. Sudden intense rainfall upstream may produce flash floods in the bed of the gulch.

Swan Oat posted:

King of the Hill's politics are kind of hard to nail down. The show goes after liberals like in the above-mentioned examples but Mega-Lo-Mart is a pretty harsh criticism of the effect Walmart has had on small communities, and there was an episode that lampooned and criticized evangelical megachurches. My friend told me that there was a late season episode with a remarkable non-lovely moral about gentrification but I haven't seen it. And it's not on Netflix anymore