XCOM 2: DORNE WHEN

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MadHat posted:

Protip: Overwatch only triggers on moves of 2 spaces or more in sight range. So you can move him one space twice and not get Overwatched. This also gets him out of Poison range, unless the Thin man Dropped on the same Space, which has happened to me before.

Overwatch also only triggers once per turn, so he could have just run a dude into overwatch range then ran the VIP away.

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 23:34

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All this talk of the Long War mod makes me wish there was support for mods for this game. I want to try it out but having to run Steam in offline mode or edit my hosts file sounds like a real pain. I just want to play the mod without hassle and switch between it and any vanilla/other mod playthroughs I have going.

# ¿ Aug 25, 2013 11:42

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Archenteron posted:

Hell yeah my dream of fielding an all-SHIV B(eep boop)-team improves

SHIV A-team or bust :colbert:

# ¿ Sep 3, 2013 01:21

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This is a really minor thing but I hope you get to use the Exalt gun models as alternatives for your ballistic and laser weapons cause they look pretty cool.

# ¿ Oct 10, 2013 10:11

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fennesz posted:

Really? That's actually pretty awesome. I hope they have alternate models for laser and plasma weapons as well.

Their laser guns show up in the trailer, and I'm going to assume that their plasma weapons will look different too since their ballistic and laser weapons do.

# ¿ Oct 15, 2013 02:11

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Lotish posted:

Whenever I use Not Created Equal, my assaults always end up with the lowest possible movement; it's uncanny and makes them really hard to use without popping Run and Gun every turn it's up.

I'm using Not Created Equal and Hidden Potential in my current playthrough and I have a sniper that has aim almost as bad as a heavy and an assault that has the lowest movement of my group and has trouble hitting anything (both colonels). On the other hand both my colonel supports have such high movement that, when combined with the +3 movement skill, can literally run further than some of my dudes can dash. Oh, and both of them have really good aim (one of them has 111 aim).

# ¿ Oct 22, 2013 22:09

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Mr Dog posted:

gently caress me, 26 enemies in late May, at least two Cyberdisks among them, at least three Mechtoids, you don't get to pick your squad, and you have to clog the meat grinder with the bones of so many redshirts that four fatalities is evaluated as "Good"?

Screw that, I'm going back to playing on Normal.

Judging by the dialogue at the end of that Gamespot video and the fact that a Sectoid Commander shows up in that last wave I would guess the base assault isn't in a set date but rather it happens at some point soon after the alien base assault mission.

# ¿ Oct 24, 2013 04:49

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poptart_fairy posted:

Decided to use Snapshot/drat Good Ground on a sniper and I must admit he's not performing as badly as I thought. Sure, Squad Sight is basically a victory button (particularly with Archangel armour) but I'm much more mindful about terrain and elevation down. It's kinda fun keeping the marksman near my team for a change.

Just as a heads-up that if you take Double Tap at Colonel Snapshot causes the second shot to take the -20% aim penalty which is really aggravating.

# ¿ Oct 24, 2013 22:17

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Space Hamlet posted:

I am weirded out that you didn't start with an officer training school, I definitely did

You start with an officer school on easy and normal, but not on classic and impossible in EU. Presumably this hasn't changed in EW.

# ¿ Nov 12, 2013 14:33

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Anyone try out the new Covering Fire? I've only had the chance for it to proc once so far, but it was pretty awesome to watch a Sectoid try and take a pot-shot at my sniper only for my support to laser the sectoid's dumb rear end first. :allears:

Don't know if it's worth it over Sprinter yet though, since running further owns.

# ¿ Nov 13, 2013 04:02

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Photosynaesthesias posted:

One of the EXALT Intel pieces I just got gave me the clue:

"The EXALT base is in a country that you can play in Civilization 5"

That's kind of a weird clue, what if someone hadn't played Civ 5?

I can just imagine Shen, upon seeing this, putting on his best scowl and saying "video games :reject:

# ¿ Nov 13, 2013 09:37

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animatorZed posted:

While I haven't gotten there, I'm pretty sure the lead designer said that the UI marks up countries ruled out by the clues automatically so you don't actually have to know them and it just seems like harmless flavor.

It does: there's a little icon next to the name of the country that the EXALT base is not in that shows up on the covert ops screen. It was literally the first thing I noticed too after my first covert ops mission so I don't know how people are dumb enough to miss that poo poo.

FraudulentEconomics posted:

We need to start figuring out what tiers of abilities aren't ever in the roulette.

For as far as I can tell, snipers ALWAYS get squadsight/snap shot as a choice, supports ALWAYS get dense smoke/combat drugs as a choice. I haven't gotten anyone high enough yet but is the single ability part of the roulette as well or is it always class specific?

Sort of the opposite that you asked, but at the bottom of the DefaultGameCore.ini file there's a list of all the perks that are allowed to be random:

code:

RandomPerks=ePerk_Aggression
RandomPerks=ePerk_TacticalSense
RandomPerks=ePerk_LightningReflexes
RandomPerks=ePerk_Flush
RandomPerks=ePerk_BringEmOn
RandomPerks=ePerk_CloseCombatSpecialist
RandomPerks=ePerk_ExtraConditioning
RandomPerks=ePerk_Resilience
RandomPerks=ePerk_BulletSwarm
RandomPerks=ePerk_TracerBeams
RandomPerks=ePerk_HEATAmmo
RandomPerks=ePerk_RapidReaction
RandomPerks=ePerk_Grenadier
RandomPerks=ePerk_WillToSurvive
RandomPerks=ePerk_DamnGoodGround
RandomPerks=ePerk_Gunslinger
RandomPerks=ePerk_BattleScanner
RandomPerks=ePerk_Executioner
RandomPerks=ePerk_Opportunist
RandomPerks=ePerk_LowProfile
RandomPerks=ePerk_Sprinter
RandomPerks=ePerk_CoveringFire
RandomPerks=ePerk_FieldMedic
RandomPerks=ePerk_Revive
RandomPerks=ePerk_DeepPockets
RandomPerks=ePerk_Savior
RandomPerks=ePerk_Sentinel
RandomPerks=ePerk_FocusedSuppression

# ¿ Nov 14, 2013 00:54

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Vengarr posted:

Finally, it seems like they made an undocumented change to Combat Stims. You can use them as many times as you want during a mission, but the effects are different than they used to be. You get +will, +movement range, and incoming damage is reduced by 50%.

So, picture a guy snorting crack every two turns, laying waste to everything that moves, then sharing his crack with his squadmates. He was unkillable.

Aww poo poo, looks like it's time to cook. :getin:

# ¿ Nov 14, 2013 11:09

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Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Took a break for dinner. Came back and now my 360 hard locks while loading my save just as I was about to finish the battleship mission! I don't make it a habit to save scum so my previous save is before I even get the mission. God drat it that mission was taking forever and now I have to do it again and it won't be blind since I know what to do.

Enable auto-saves dawg

(Unless the 360 version doesn't have that option then welp)

# ¿ Nov 15, 2013 00:21

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Mzbundifund posted:

So I know they nerfed Squadsight to get rid of its ability to crit on non-headshots, but even so is there any real reason to take Snapshot now? I mean, sure you get to move and fire on the same turn, but the other three classes already do that so much better, and they don't suffer from an Aim penalty on nearby targets. It seems like it just turns your sniper into a crappy support. What does snapshot really get me that gunslinger doesn't?

Whenever I read posts like this I always wonder why people with Snap Shot snipers are getting so close to the enemy that the close-in aim penalty starts to apply. Like, you guys realise that the aim penalty only starts to apply at around shotgun ranges right?

# ¿ Nov 16, 2013 02:44

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Away all Goats posted:

Is there anyway to check what second wave/advanced options you have activated?

Escape -> Second Wave Options

I don't know if you can do this in the battlescape but you definitely can in the base.

# ¿ Nov 16, 2013 05:39

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Ravenfood posted:

You can't crit with squadsight anymore, so opportunist is kind of wasted on squadsight snipers now. Sentinel, rapid reaction, and opportunist on a snapshot/ITZ sniper, on the other hand, sounds loving ridiculous. Kill 3 dudes, then overwatch for a possible two shots on two enemies.

And yeah, Training Roulette does kind of turn supports into rifles with smoke that can only fill their usual role if they get really, really lucky. Medkits take two perks to be really useful, and you'd need to have access to both to take one or the other.

edit: vvvv No, I still take it too, but only because executioner is just so utterly worthless on snipers (and in general, to be honest). Its only a "waste" in the sense that you really don't get much for that level.

I always saw the primary benefit of Opportunist as the getting rid of the -20 aim penalty from overwatching with the ability to crit as a side bonus.

RBA Starblade posted:

The descriptions for EXALT weapons suggests council nations might want them. Are there council requests asking for them ever? They sell for nothing so I might as well keep them but it'd be good to know.

I got a council request for 2 EXALT rocket launchers for 30 simoleons :geno:

# ¿ Nov 18, 2013 01:44

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dud root posted:

Half cover is 25 Defence, and full is 50.. I think. Not sure about distance

It's 20/40 for half/full cover actually.

# ¿ Nov 20, 2013 06:37

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Coolguye posted:

Regarding Arc Throwing now: same basic idea still works. The soft panic that AIs display when they are the last member left alive still happens, but they're even more erratic and panicky now. Keeping on the bastards and clapping Overwatch on them while they're panicked will encourage them to hunker down instead of run. I've had zero problems capturing aliens, aside from a few 80% fails that made me sad.

Also flashbangs.

# ¿ Nov 21, 2013 01:20

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Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Is there an easy way to make cover harder to destroy? I know it's possible (because a mod did it for Enemy Unknown), but I'm wondering if it's an .ini file edit to increase the "health" of terrain or whatever that I can do on my own. I had an assault behind full cover who used a shotgun to reaction-fire through a nearby waist-high window, destroy the entire wall in the process, and then get killed...because he no longer had cover. It's one thing if a rocket, grenade, or plasma cannon knocks down a wall, but it's sort of loving stupid when a shotgun or pistol or whatever does it, and then you're immediately punished for it.

I haven't tried it, but you should be able to change the iEnvironmentDamage setting for each weapon in DefaultGameCore.ini to make it harder to destroy cover.

# ¿ Nov 21, 2013 04:07

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Spacedad posted:

I haven't really looked at how a heavy might work as a superspy, but assault, sniper, and support all can have their entire skill trees built around doing covert ops missions.

Heavys can't be operatives if I recall.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2013 12:20

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I refuse to call them anything but Simoleons :colbert:

# ¿ Nov 23, 2013 08:31

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ShineDog posted:

Aiming Angles. How does it calculate?

If I'm X sat like so

...1.........2
..............
□□□□..........
...X..........

I can totally see that hostile 2 has a better shot, and aiming angles would allow for this. (formatting has screwed it a little, dude should be on edge cover on the wall here)

However the wording of the actual mechanic almost implies that he would get a lower penalty in this situation too.

...1.........2
..............
□□□□□□□□□□□□..
...X..........

Which doesn't make as much sense. Would he benefit?

I haven't tried aiming angles yet, but I would assume that shooter 2 does get a benefit simply because I doubt the devs thought to account for cover next to the piece you're hiding behind. Speaking of which, if anyone is curious about how aiming angles works on a base level this is from the ini:

code:

; Top down view
;
;     B  
;      \ 
;       \
;  A-----^
;        T
;
; T is a target with cover in the direction of '^'.
; A is a shooter with the maximum aiming angle aim bonus 
; B is a shooter with the minimum aiming angle aim bonus
; The aiming angle bonus increases linearly in the angle range between A and B
SW_AIMING_ANGLE_THRESHOLD=45.0f	; SW_AIMING_ANGLE_THRESHOLD defines the angle between segment TA and TB - its valid range is 0-90
SW_AIMING_ANGLE_MINBONUS=5		; Shooter B's aiming angle bonus is SW_AIMING_ANGLE_MINBONUS
SW_AIMING_ANGLE_MAXBONUS=-5		; Shooter A's aiming angle bonus is [T's Cover Bonus + SW_AIMING_ANGLE_MAXBONUS]

If I'm reading this right, you need a 45 degree angle before you start getting a bonus to hit, starting at +5 aim and ending at +15 versus light cover and +35 versus heavy cover. The bonus goes up linearly with the best bonus being one tile away from a flank.

Catsworth posted:

Someone mentioned it way earlier in the thread but I believe it is much more likely to give you new maps first but as the game goes on the ratio between new and old maps becomes about even.

Yeah I recall reading that the map selection is weighted towards the new maps when you first play so you're not constantly playing the old maps over and over before seeing a new one.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2013 12:07

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year199X posted:

At a PAX Panel Jake said originally when your soldiers spotted aliens they would automatically take pot shots at each other during your turn, but they removed that because it got too hard to tell what was going on. It's understandable, considering how suppression works.

I still wish it was a togglable option; it's not a big deal but I think it'd be cool.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2013 22:24

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If I recall, didn't the original game have ridiculous damage deviation? I recall watching videos of games where someone would take two/three shots and come out with like one/two damage total.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2013 23:42

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Coolguye posted:

You could send out multiple interceptors or whatever in UFO, but they only ever engaged one at a time. Also there was a few different attack modes but they were basically meaningless as gently caress so really the action sequences on the Geoscape are 100% identical.

Actually you can intercept with up to three (I believe) fighters at the same time. Here's a lovely youtube video I found that shows off intercepting something with two at once:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6RPxM_AYMc

# ¿ Nov 27, 2013 06:46

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treat posted:

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but while Enemy Within isn't on sale on steam, it's 30% off on Green Man Gaming with the coupon code GMG30-4IMHC-3C8ST, or at least it was earlier today when I got it.

Why do I always have to read posts like these right after I buy EW for a friend?

# ¿ Nov 29, 2013 06:50

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Mr Dog posted:

I have a confession to make

I ... don't usually bother with hats

I'm boring and just give everyone the kevlar helmet that was added in EW, though a few snipers do get the ballcap + headset combo.

# ¿ Nov 30, 2013 11:39

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There is a reaction range value (iReactionRange) for weapons in the ini, with the shotgun being the only weapon to actually have a value other than -1 (it's set to 27), but I've never messed with it and don't know if it does what you want it to do.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2014 05:24

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You know, flying base is cool and all but not going to lie, part of me was hoping the secret XCOM base would be underwater, from which you launched terror attacks against the megacities. A "Terror from the Deep" if you will. :haw:

# ¿ Jun 1, 2015 21:42

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fargom posted:

Can I date that swole rear end sectoid?

Screw the sectoid; it's all about dat snake tittay

Oh my god it all makes sense now

# ¿ Jun 2, 2015 00:50

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A Bug posted:

I really hope SHIVS or some other automated shooty-thing is in. Specialists with drones are cool, but I loved rolling over aliens with an army of adorable ED-209s.

SHIV crew supremacy :c00l:

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 04:44

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I hope that if SHIVs make a comeback you can customise and rename them like soldiers

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 04:52

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GruntyThrst posted:

If loving snake tits is wrong then I don't want to be right. Do you think viper-senpai will notice me if I get gene therapy?

What if you got gene therapy and became the snake tits

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 10:33

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Clarste posted:

I have to say, it feels a bit weird to play a literal terrorist. No matter how sinister and human experimenty and unjust the alien government is, starting a firefight in a crowded area with civilians in the line of fire feels kind of... evil? The trailer makes me feel like XCOM is the bad guy.

Maybe I just don't hate Xenos enough to appreciate it.

Given how many civilians I always end up killing with explosives anyway I don't think it'd make that big of a difference really. :v:

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 11:04

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Zigmidge posted:

Silent Storm was extremely the poo poo.

I really wanted to like this game but I gave up like half-way through the first real mission because the enemy turns would take like a minute+ each time and I hated waiting.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 19:59

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Someone sell me on the MEC flamethrower in EW. I always take the punch because the bonus movement and I've never really felt like I've wanted a 6/9 damage close range AoE over a 12/18 damage punch.

Vib Rib posted:

I can't believe that "NEW XCOM IS BDU poo poo" discussion even got off the ground

Did the American military start fielding power rangers and I just missed it

Uhh excuse but if you can't tell that XCOM is obviously super milsperg BDU bullshit then you're an idiot. I mean look at it

Can't even tell the difference between it and CoD :rolleyes:

# ¿ Jun 5, 2015 03:16

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Alkydere posted:

Guarantee panic on anything it hurts. ANYTHING. You get to watch Ethereals and Berserkers run for their mommy.

Ohhh didn't know about the guaranteed panic. Might try it out next time I make a MEC.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2015 03:36

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Notorious QIG posted:

Xenonauts has a great air war. To be honest I'd play a game that was pretty much just that.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who would play an air war-only version of Xenonauts. Also the fighter that looks like an F14/F22 hybrid is baller as hell

# ¿ Jun 5, 2015 23:29

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 23:34

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Geight posted:

I kinda wish Firaxis had followed suit with Bethesda and put the XCOM franchise on sale after announcing XCOM 2, just so I could buy my buddy EW on the cheap.

It actually was on sale when they announced XCOM2. It was the daily sale for 75% off, so on sale for Tuesday and Wednesday. That said apparently the Steam Summer Sale is starting real soon so I don't think you have to wait too long.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 21:09

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