[canada] I don't need to take lessons on marginalized people. I'm ITALIAN!

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Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

vyelkin posted:

yeah, the whole point of neoliberalism wasn't necessarily to use the state to enforce technocratic capitalism, it was about removing the ability of the state to do anything else. end of history meant end of state power, and third way leaders more than anybody else made sure that "the state can't do anything" became the defining ideology. people might acknowledge that the state had the theoretical authority to do things, but they made sure that the ideological apparatus surrounding the state constantly reaffirmed that it shouldn't, both because it was theoretically wrong and because it was inefficient. everything is more effective when someone other than the state does it, so why would you ever want the state to do anything even if you acknowledge that it can?

what state capacity did remain was, as dreylad says, used to funnel state money to private individuals. sometimes this was in the form of pure graft, but more often it was rooted in the privatization of the state. neoliberal ideology says capitalism is the only system that works and efficiency is more important than efficacy. capitalism is driven by the profit motive which drives people to efficiency, and neoliberalism says the problem with the state is it doesn't have a profit motive so it can never be efficient, even if it is effective - the state might get the thing done that you want, but it will waste resources doing it, so there will always be a theoretical private initiative that could reach the same result for less expenditure. and so the privatization of the state took place, both because of graft but also because of an ideological belief that only privatization could lead to efficiency. and this didn't only apply to things neoliberals dislike about the state, but about everything--private police, private prisons, private soldiers. why spend money creating an effective police force, prison, or military when you could contract it out, get the same result for less expenditure, and get the chance to give a big contract to your friend from university while you're at it? the state still exists but it primarily exists as a clearinghouse for taxpayer money to go to private contractors who provide state functions. the principal thing that changes when government changes hands is not the basic ideology of how the state should operate, but rather which group of well-connected donors get the big taxpayer-funded contracts

of course, it should go without saying that this system only works when the good times are rolling. as soon as it faces a systemic crisis that can't be solved in the course of a single fiscal quarter using a public-private contract, it collapses because the state no longer has the capacity to do effective long-term planning and the private contractors either aren't interested in it or aren't capable of doing it either. neoliberalism teaches that there is nothing outside the market, and so it cannot conceive of problems that are legitimate market failures. it either stalls on those problems, acknowledging that they exist but remaining unable to solve them, or its ratcheting mechanism reassures the neoliberal mind that the solution is more of the market, because these market mechanisms cannot fail, because there is no ideological alternative to them. the pandemic or climate change are problems that exist outside the market and that cannot be solved by the market, because in both cases the short-term profit incentives cause drastic long-term consequences far out of proportion to the short-term choices that caused them

this is why we keep doubling down on bad responses to both these systemic problems, because our political class is entirely wedded to the neoliberal view of the world as one big market where private enterprise is the driving force of history and where the only efficient thing for the state to do is to get out of the way, but these problems are ones that are made worse by the market, not better, and therefore cannot be solved through this model. sometimes a far-sighted individual might break the trend and try to do what's healthy in the long-run, but the short-term incentives to stab that person in the back and go back to opening the economy or burning coal are just too great, and because nothing exists outside the market our leaders simply cannot conceive of a long-term solution that might overcome the short-term perversions of the profit motive.

# ¿ Feb 11, 2022 06:44

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 21:13

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

skewetoo posted:

[Canada] Bonhomme rear end Republic

# ¿ Feb 13, 2022 03:16

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Bleck posted:

There are minorities in Ottawa?

liberal minorities, anyways

# ¿ Feb 19, 2022 08:49

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

i don't know why everyone is so angry about housing?

D&D has reassured me that it's a supply issue, don't worry :shobon:

# ¿ Apr 6, 2022 15:26

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Just as all roads lead to Rome ...

# ¿ Apr 13, 2022 21:31

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

mediaphage posted:

stop threatening me with a good time, fucker

https://twitter.com/maximebernier/status/1514644334284619787?s=21&t=C4tMUsHMIj9Sw9ohNFMlGQ

is this actually supposed to be bad lmfao

# ¿ Apr 17, 2022 18:47

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Rime posted:

Why bother with the hassle of filing an LMIA for a TFW, when you can cut out the hassle of importing your slave labor and instead simply suppress domestic wages through the magic of technology.

Waiting for the resident Liberals to shuffle in and explain how this is awesome and good because it "doesn't impact their lives".

actually, rime, you're insane because you don't see the cost savings and employment opportunities!!!

# ¿ Apr 26, 2022 18:07

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

ok we're all going back to Winnipeg now, let's all get giant apple pancakes at the Pembina highway location

# ¿ Apr 28, 2022 01:23

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Come on guys, we can still turn this car around, we can go hang out at The Forks, go to any of the theatres, have a picnic and check the zoo, pls.

We could go to Bistro Dansk, it's really good!!!!

Hubbert has issued a correction as of 01:42 on Apr 28, 2022

# ¿ Apr 28, 2022 01:40

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Suplex Liberace posted:

Bad news about that place...

FUCKKKKK

# ¿ Apr 28, 2022 02:38

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

vyelkin posted:

Russian state media threatens
Canada with 'don cherry'

pretty sure the Cherry Bomb is a war crime

# ¿ May 2, 2022 22:49

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Rime posted:

It’s funny to see mainstream publications finally talking about the systemic issue which I was posting about in the debt bubble thread back circa 2016.

actually, the problem here is supply, because

# ¿ May 2, 2022 22:50

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Papa Was A Video Toaster posted:

*Starts writing down names of posters with mortgages.*

odiv posted:

If I'm on the list you can take me off in about a month.

... or does that put me on a different list?

I believe this upgrades you from the list and directly to the wall.

# ¿ May 4, 2022 21:25

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Another Bill posted:

You can pick either one, but they both lead to Michaels.

I'll see you all there.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2022 18:16

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1543585267403014145?t=uLIH3uOCuKGksRR7NQCq_w&s=19

This is really loving odd

You can't hear the dog whistle?

edit:

infernal machines posted:

IDK about the video but imploring people to "Reclaim" things is pretty unsubtle. Like, even if you didn't already know who Peter Pan there is signalling to, who in this country is particularly aggrieved about a perceived loss of status, and who are they blaming?

A conservative Canadian politician big into crypto, protestor convoys, and alt-right philosophy is now trying to evoke nostalgia through reclamation of the past and machismo, especially among an aggrieved rural white population?

:thunk:

Hubbert has issued a correction as of 20:59 on Jul 3, 2022

# ¿ Jul 3, 2022 20:52

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

DynamicSloth posted:

https://twitter.com/JamieSale/status/1544487302776336384

they didn't die from Alberta, they died with Alberta

# ¿ Jul 7, 2022 17:12

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Colonel Cancer posted:

Are we certain that comrade bee is dead? Maybe they're pining their time, ready to burst thru like Alien

Keep watching until after the credits, there's usually a stinger.

# ¿ Aug 13, 2022 00:59

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Bank of Canada asking everyone to lend a small part of their energy in order to launch a Spirit Bomb at entrenched inflation

# ¿ Aug 17, 2022 16:14

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

another bank of canada interest rate hike - up 75 basis points, now at 3.25%

# ¿ Sep 7, 2022 16:24

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Thread is exuding powerful big PP energies right now.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2022 21:50

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

I remember when Kate Beaton very briefly joined us here on the SA forums (LF) and was immediately creeped / scared out by average goon behaviour towards her lmfao

# ¿ Sep 16, 2022 20:32

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Falstaff posted:

IIRC, according to her that's not exactly what happened. The creepiness certainly didn't help (though she dismissed it as nbd compared to other stuff she's had to deal with online), but ultimately she left because she just didn't find the forums interesting enough to continue bothering with.

kate-san ... :negative:

# ¿ Sep 16, 2022 23:05

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

vyelkin posted:

what the gently caress

# ¿ Sep 18, 2022 14:58

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Slotducks posted:

this country loving sucks

wow, someone needs new pamps!

# ¿ Oct 7, 2022 17:56

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

lol that ABC (NPA 2: but stronger) sweeped Vancouver's slate

also McCallum should have never picked a fight with the RCMP, career ending move no matter who you are right there

# ¿ Oct 16, 2022 19:49

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

DynamicSloth posted:

They have definitely stated that Wednesday is when they will announce their decision.

loving insane, but I would not put it pass them to:

A) Ban a candidate previously vetted and cleared to stand as a Federal Member of Parliament

B) Refuse to give any reason for the ban

C) Essentially cancel a leadership race mid-way in which it both candidates sold thousands of members with the expectation that the 'D' in the Party name was not purely an archaic holdover.

basically,

https://twitter.com/NoContextBCGov/status/1582120886911791105

# ¿ Oct 18, 2022 01:49

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

https://twitter.com/d_demelis/status/1583801338034462720?t=mIZlFaxcvjYHWPrrDkAXBg&s=19

Get a HELOC for the million dollar property and buy a 1.5m dollar property, duh

[Canada] my realtor kinda talked me into it

# ¿ Oct 23, 2022 00:59

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

mila kunis posted:

how the gently caress is this canadian debt bubble still going

the Canadian Debt Bubble thread welcome you

# ¿ Oct 23, 2022 21:52

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

megahtz posted:

why don't you have microcondos in toronto yet

imagine how much cheaper housing could be

# ¿ Oct 26, 2022 22:07

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

megahtz posted:

aren't onerous mortgage underwriting standards a barrier to housing supply though?

Another hit to our hardworking real estate sector! :canada:

# ¿ Oct 30, 2022 04:29

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Next up with the Ontario government: using the notwithstanding clause to prevent anyone from ever voluntarily leaving their job.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2022 18:47

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

CLAM DOWN posted:

lol

https://twitter.com/CTVToronto/status/1590404235891703808

incredible

quote:

“Do you know what's even worse than Section 33? Is threatening to go on strike, shut down the economy of Ontario, keep parents at home, keep the kids at home, you know, keep the grandparents—as they’re getting unloaded at the grandparent's house, that's so much more dangerous than Section 33,” Ford said at an unrelated news conference on Wednesday.

[...]

"But when you have a union sitting there telling you that they're going on strike before I even mentioned it [Section 33]. They're going on strike no matter what it is, and you have no option, but to sit back and utilize the tool,” Ford said Wednesday.

The man has clearly learned his lesson here.

Hubbert has issued a correction as of 06:29 on Nov 10, 2022

# ¿ Nov 10, 2022 06:23

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

meanwhile in Vancouver

quote:

Head of Vancouver Police Union shares 'F*** the DTES grifters' image on Twitter - CTV News

The president of the Vancouver Police Union is facing backlash for a social media image he shared over the weekend that reads, "F*** the DTES grifters."

Ralph Kaisers' Twitter post was a response to two other images shared by the Defund 604 Network last week showing a banner hanging over the Georgia Viaduct.

[...]

# ¿ Nov 15, 2022 23:53

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

bobmarleysghost posted:

you must take the mustard

now that's a man who really cuts the mustard

:newlol:

# ¿ Dec 1, 2022 01:44

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

StealthArcher posted:

The D&Dest rear end CSPAM thread continues it's streak

I blame the laurentian goon elite!

# ¿ Dec 6, 2022 23:15

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

A Russian troll farm posted:

canadian liberals only want the jackbooted enforcers of capital to have guns, what else is new

--

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A Russian troll farm posted:

I remember an anecdote about a chilean communist group in the pinochet era that ended up splitting over the issue of whether to carry pistols. Not for fighting, but for shooting themselves if they were about to be captured.

If you're at all serious about politics, even if only to the point of electing a progressive social democratic government, you need to understand that when capital is really under threat, the soft, squishy side of liberalism falls away completely and reveals unimaginably nightmarish cruelty. I've read about things that happened to people in torture prisons in Chile or Indonesia or Nicaragua, and I while can't recommend reading about it, it does give you some perspective. Suppose we managed to elect an actual social democratic NDP government that does all the good stuff and nationalizes industries to build canada's green future and so on - do you not think capital will fight back in every way it needs to? first through regular means, but eventually through naked terror. Progressives and social democrats simply don't understand the stakes. There is limit to what Capital is capable of and no lines it will not cross when it is threatened. You should be a lot more afraid than you are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlaPZ-xMPGY

Hubbert has issued a correction as of 06:17 on Dec 7, 2022

# ¿ Dec 7, 2022 06:14

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

flashy_mcflash posted:

What would Pierre Polivere's torture prisons look like?

this thread

# ¿ Dec 8, 2022 05:54

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

infernal machines posted:

you are strapped to a metal table, an overly bright fluorescent light flickers overhead, buzzing intermittently. after an interminable wait, another person is wheeled in. A Russian troll farm is also bound to a gurney, they are propped upright facing you, ungagged, and they begin to expound at length on their understanding of historical materialism

is this waterboarding in Pierre Polivere's torture prison

# ¿ Dec 8, 2022 06:26

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

infernal machines posted:

they really should tell veteran's affairs to stop offering to kill people though

# ¿ Dec 14, 2022 07:38

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 21:13

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

DariusLikewise posted:

the game but you see how long you can go without thinking about michaels

gently caress

# ¿ Dec 14, 2022 22:08

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