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CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


I saw one dude who's name was something like "lIllIlilILIllI1"

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CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Wow. This god damned bio by some PL renter.

WolfSchwarzMond posted:

The man who became known as WolfSchwarzMond was born on a farm planet. Spending his days toiling in the fields and his nights staring at the track of ships in the sky he joined the Gallente Navy at 18.

Trained as a Starfighter maintenance tech he worked for 15yrs, constantly listening to pilots complain about everything. One evening forced to stand at attention and listen to a new pilot complain about the state of a ships paint job after a 18 hour shift he decided he’d had enough of the Navy. Seizing a large wrench as a teaching aid, he explained to the officer that paint was to prevent corrosion not for looks.

Dripping another mans blood as a result of his multi-hour lecture, he stole a ship and headed out to find his fortune. After a very short, very disasterous, career as a porn director, he moved into the lucritive weapon and ships production industry.

He claims his bio is written based on his real life, and he also used to have a vanity corp. Dude's a winner.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Beach Bum posted:

You don't HAVE to save them, but it takes longer to drag your probes in to optimal overlap than it does to click a dropdown. Once you have those formations perfected it reduces your adjustment times and you can spend less overall time trying to pin someone down.

The other formation is for plopping the center probe on the sun and getting a system-wide scan of all signatures. When I'm combat probing I use DSCAN to locate the celestial the enemy is on, then drop a 1.0AU pinpoint on them to get a warpin on something cruiser sized (my combat prober is all IV's with V in Astrometrics, which is nice because I'm usually scanning from an unbonused recon).

Pinpoint automatically moves your probes to the optimal overlap when you adjust your probe range. It will literally take you longer to click on the drop down than it does to adjust your probe ranges.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


I do wish I could pivot the camera and keep it in that location. :(

But yea, as useful as it was having Mad Ani's stream to look at the other guy's staging system, the pubbie bullshit river flowed through him and his chat channel like the god damned nile.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


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loving awesome name for the deadzoned station holding corp.

CainFortea fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Feb 20, 2014

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Tuxedo Catfish posted:

If they can in fact be caught by other properly fit interceptors then what little problem there was is solved and y'all should stop whining about the single most fun class of ship in the game finally being good again.

CCP makes inty changes

Every shitlord and their mother flies inties

Balanced and Fair gameplay.


Look, I'll try and do this simply for you Tuxedo. If inties were balanced and fair, then why is it almost always interceptor gangs? HAC gangs are less and less often, hell even blops gangs are becoming less frequent.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Because Deklein is a million miles away from anywhere hostiles might possibly consider living. Of course they're going to use ships that are exceptionally good at avoiding capture and out-running intel, that's what the redesigned interceptors are for.

The only coherent argument I've heard for them being broken in the first place is Smiling Vagrant's complaint that literally nothing a gatecamp can do can catch them; I agree that that's kind of dumb and have no problem with the agility changes.

Tuxedo Catfish posted:


If they can in fact be caught by other properly fit interceptors then what little problem there was is solved and y'all should stop whining about the single most fun class of ship in the game finally being good again.


So are you just stirring poo poo up? Or did you suddenly realize how dumb you are and change your mind?

The problem isn't "Inties are fast". The problem is "Some inties are uncatchable".

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Is... that supposed to be a gotcha?

I didn't change my mind. Those posts are saying the same thing. Barely catchable good, uncatchable bad but in a fairly insignificant way.

Firstly, "catchable if you don't fit like a scrub" does not equal "uncatchable".

Secondly, having a class of ship that is uncatchable is not particularly fun, nor is it particularly good gameplay. And they aren't insignificant. Just because it isn't hillariously broken doesn't mean it isn't broken.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Lowkin posted:

He stayed orange and just started salvaging my wrecks while I was fighting mobs then he just bounced. Lesson learned shoot all orange dudes and red dudes?

I am already getting killed and swindled at the teet of high-sec, I won't last a minute in lo-sec. I don't learn quickly I will be broke before I learn.

By all means, don't take any advice at all in this thread. It's not like there are groups who are set up specifically to support and teach you while you learn this game.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


i do cocaine posted:

As an pilot in eve you should be focused on getting the gently caress out of highsec, people have been telling you for a while to get out of there. Do you like slamming your face on a wall? Or is it another reason?

I'm convinced he's just loving trolling at this point.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Because it's dismal income for what you're risking, and because unless you have a beastly computer and the will to fund tons of accounts at once ratting is a dead end in terms of scaling income.

What you're risking? Ratting fit carriers are pretty cheap, and there's not many other ratting setups a dedicated drone pilot can fly that makes the money a carrier does. Escobar looses carriers at a "capital builder insider trading" rate, and makes piles of isk.

The only actual real reasons to not carrier rat are either:

A) There are cloakers in system and you can't be assed to move.
B) You can't afford to lose a little over a billion isk. Which is pretty much the rule for anything.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Tuxedo Catfish posted:

You could run level 5 missions and make literally six or seven times the isk/hour. The only highly-skilled pilot it takes is the carrier guy.

Or just anomaly rat in an Ishtar instead of risking a 1.5-2b isk ship for 10m/tick more.

1.5 to 2.0 bn for a ratting carrier is pretty overpriced. If you're not dumb, you're not going to lose either ship. And if you're dumb, no amount of picking the right ship will keep you from dying to single inties.

Also, there's no way you're getting 750m/hour running those missions. At best you're doing 300m, and that's running in a ship that costs more than the carrier.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Tuxedo Catfish posted:

You can make a bil/hour rejecting everything but the missions that can be blitzed in a carrier. You make 80-100k LP per mission, unload LP for at least 1000 isk/per if you're patient, and the missions you select for can be run in about five minutes on average. In the long term it ends up being a little lower once you factor in time spent fussing with the agents and occasionally running storyline missions so your faction standings don't decay, but yes, it is better than 750m/hour.

Carrier ratting in anomalies is a mug's game, deal with it. :smugdog:

You apparently have the same wrist watches that highsec pubbies do. They'll spend 2 hours setting up for a thing that takes 1 hour and earns one bil, and that's somehow 1bil/hour.

You're also ignoring the hidden cost that running missions has on your soul.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Dude, just stop. Do some research before you get all sour grapes on me.

Ha. 2bn isk ratting carriers right?

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


sulley posted:

I'm probably not the best one to speak to this, but it's probably a little too early to hit the panic button on 'afk' ratting. I know people are responding to the patch note about tweaked AI target management, but having rats constantly target drones would pretty much neuter active drone ratters too, wouldn't it? If I'm having to constantly recall drones in what should be a manageable fight it becomes more than just a time/attention multiplier - it becomes an annoyance.

I haven't been playing long enough since my years long break to know how patches go these days, but I would imagine the community reaction to that would be too much for actual consideration? And if something like that happens regardless, I'm hopeful there would be a more elegant solution than drone micro.

Also I'm probably too optimistic.

Or they could work the AI somehow so that if rats aren't getting targeted every so many time units, rats attack drones. That doesn't bother active drone ratters, but does go after afk ratters.

VVVVVV
I don't think anyone has seen CCP say anything about afk ratting. But this is CCP so who the gently caress knows. And besides, they don't want you to rat. They want you to do exploration, since they've been working the exploration things pretty hard the last few expansions.

CainFortea fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Mar 11, 2014

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


deadtear posted:

Anthony z is the dude who blew the lid off of bob/ccp preferential treatment. He also spent awhile hacking goonfleet forums among others.

IIRC, he was hired to hack our forums by bob. And when he delivered, they said "gently caress you get bent". Which seems like a bad thing to say to the guy who just proved to you he could hack a forum, when you too have your own forum.

So he hacked their forum, found evidence that all the "logistics problems" of helping LV(?) were actually them tired of propping up LV, and that devs were giving them the lowdown on upcoming expansions before anyone else, and some other poo poo.


tl;dr: when you hire a hacker to do a thing, and he does the thing, you pay him.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Lowkin posted:

Is losing dread fleets a common occurrence in null-sec or was it because of ineptitude?
In the grand scheme of things how big of a loss is this for BNI?

I have about 2 billion ISK and I am contemplating trading a PLEX in for multi account training. So I can get an alt training to do PI/CARGO/Trading. Seems all the rich vets are always talking about their trading alts in Jita.

I am playing EvE like a survival game and it's quite fun, I die every time I get the courage to fight. I don't think I have one solo-kill yet.

We lost 19 carriers in one system over a fight that started with a old CSM guy bombing a pod. 13 of those 19 carriers were owned by 2 guys.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


uwaeve posted:

Case in point: Moomin Amatin.

What's wrong with Moomin? He's always fun on comms and doing things.

fakedit: remember when BoB was disbanded and we abandoned the south to take delve? Against All Authorities was taking Feythabolis with about as much opposition as we were facing in Delve. I think we had JBs up before they had even managed to take AZN.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


vyst posted:

I don't even consider Fweddit, Reddit.

I have an alt in Fweddit for doing FW stuff when I feel like doing that. The feeling I get from talking to them is very similar to jokes about how "There's a front page?" Only it's more "What's reddit?"

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


necrotic posted:

They aren't comets, they are a new ship completely.

More clearly, they are listed on the market as an entirely different ship. They have the exact same stats as the comet though.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


mikey posted:

Seriously, how did they go from nothing to apparently awesome to what-the-gently caress-is-going-on inside of one year? It wasn't even 3 months ago that people were talking about how fun and newbie-friendly BNI was, and now every decision the alliance is making seems geared entirely toward established players (if not outright terrible, like choosing Sendaya, providing no direction or support to their line members during a huge move, and leaping rear end-first into conquerable nullsec).

It's almost like they allied and made a coalition with the shittiest shitlords that ever lorded a poo poo. TEST.

quote:

Zungen is in Thunderwaffe.

Zungen IS Thunderwaffe.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


gwrtheyrn posted:

Ask me about wing warping the incursion fleet early on a gate and getting a scimitar killed :suicide:

Hey, at least you gave me a new one.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Either way, I shipped my nightmare down tonight for the next incursion because gently caress you lasers are cool.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Majikjon posted:

Well, that was one of my reasons for asking. I definitely do not want to attract too much attention by putting too much bling in my fit. That being said, I realize there are likely to be one or two spots where a faction mod or two will be a big help.


No doubt, this is excellent advice. Right now I'm still getting along learning the basics of the gameplay, and running level 4s to build up cash to play with. I do plan to sign on with one of the goon guilds at some point--at which point I expect I will discover I still have much to learn. I just hope to have a better idea of what type/size of ship I'll be shooting for in the long run. No doubt my Tengu will stay docked in my bay for a while if it makes the trip out to Null Sec with me. In the meantime I can fly cheap disposable frigates or destroyers.

Thanks for the fitting tips, guys (esp also to mikey). This does help greatly.

Majikjon

I really don't get how people can possibly think this. We literally give you stuff for free, teach you how to make more isk faster, and show you all the gameplay stuff. I mean, usually newbies get about 500m isk their first day.\


edit: Newbie came into theta mumble and asked if there's a fleet to join with his newbie slasher.

We just gave him 800m and helped him set up his own fleet and got a ping going for him to lead his first fleet.

CainFortea fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Mar 18, 2014

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


The reprocessing fucks newbie salvagers. This makes me angry.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


That was my logic. Less mineral value in mods means less money laying about for newbies to pick up.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Ashcans posted:

When I came back to the game I ended up just dumping my salvage into buys in deklein or reprocessing with my lovely skills; I did fine and I suspect this won't cripple our newbies too badly. It might suck for people in worse space trying to eke it out though.

To be honest, if I was a newbie now my plan would be to do exploration while I trained into an interceptor and then just pvp with those continuously for profit. :getin:

Okay, but then you have the newbies that pay attention and sell their junk to people to get full reproc value out of them. So it hurts those more.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Hollow Talk posted:

I'm also not quite sure how "reshipping", i.e. paying the relisted prices for absolutely everything, hurts the resellers making money off of it, but maybe that's just my limited understanding of how economics work?

Back when BoB destroyed goons in Syndicate, people were selling stuff on market. Caracals, for example. BoB would buy them and relist them at like 4 times the price. So a couple of goons started making stuff as fast as they could, using the money BoB was giving them to bring in even more stuff and kept listing it. Meanwhile they were selling stuff to goons at regular rates by just chatting in corp chat or using escrows.

Some goons made tons of money off doing that.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


padijun posted:

wait, ev0ke were actual nazis? I thought that video was a joke

It says it right in the video. ev0ke are literally nazis.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


QuarkJets posted:

We already did that; reprocessing is best done via a Theta person with a 100% refining alt, and those guys are still going to be around after the reprocessing change (albeit with more SP in their characters), and Exploration was always a better income stream anyway

e: Even a newbie who isn't aware of the Theta refingers is still going to be bringing in tons of cash after the refining nerf, so relax

The problem is that they're reducing how much minerals are in the mods. So, there's that. Also reducing max scrapmetal refine down to 55%. you can't get 100%.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Unimpressed posted:

So i've been in goonswarm for a bit over a day now. Impressions and experiences so far:

1. I don't know how people can complain about auth. I got authed and into the corp about 5 minutes after I applied. I was expecting a two day wait, so it was a cool surprise.
2. Every time I open my mouth somewhere, people throw ISK at me. Jesus christ, I've already been given 300m ISK.
3. After all the talk here about partial reimbursement for brave newbies, I asked for a frigate and got five. For free.
4. I flew to Hemin and just waited for something to happen. A couple of hours later there was a ping on jabber and I joined a fleet. I hosed up and got a bit lost, got trolled for marking a really beautiful perch and was later able to tackle a caracel for my first kill mail. My hands were shaking a bit, I'll admit.
5. We flew to the station at Sendaya and I tackled a Rorqual, but curiously no one was shooting at it, even though I announced point. It was right next to the station. Isn't a rorqual really expensive? Wouldn't that have been a great kill? I'm a bit puzzled why other targets were preferred.

Anyway, I had a great time so far, and I'm looking forward to getting accepted into arsehole squad and flying with other aussies.

1. I'm glad it went so smooth and easy for you. It usually does for me (though, not 5 minute fast easy).
2. 300mil? Please. Get on the Theta Squad jabber sometime during US prime and say "hi i'm a newbie".
3. It really is awesome. I've been playing since 2006, and I would be given frigates if I asked. It's the cornerstone of everything.
4. You don't have to wait for poo poo to happen if you don't want to. We often get newbies leading frigate roams after playing the game for 5 hours or so. Get on Theta Jabber. After your wallet blinks after saying "hi i'm a newbie" say "I want to lead a fleet" and we'll show you how to set that poo poo up. Then probably drink too much and go with you.
5. The rorqual was probably baiting the fleet to agress. If everyone had shot it, then the fleet couldn't have docked. I dunno, there's not many reasons to not shoot a rorqual.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Unimpressed posted:

Well, let's see. The most expensive skillbook I've bought (salvaging) was 1m. I don't pay for ships right now, and even when I will, I will get reimbursed if I lose them in PVP. So yeah, 300m is a lot, I'm sure I'll be drowning in frigates, destroyers and cruisers for the next 6 months no problem. Hopefully by then I'll be able to make this kind of money too.

I guess if there're other newbees who are more shy than me then save some for them. Right now, I'm more than happy with everyone's generosity.

Having money makes making more money easier. And this game is enough of a pain in the rear end when you're first starting, that chipping in and giving some money helps make it easier. Because eventually you're going to want to do some silly blingy fit for no good reason. Also, no one is giving more than they can comfortably forget having given, so there's no worries.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Munin posted:

Man, I do wish the "they can just walk away" canard would just die already. That's generally not how people work in high pressure social situations. Especially when you are dealing with a group of people who know how to set things up correctly.

If you're not bright enough to realize you can click on a single button and make all those voices telling you to do things go away, I don't know how better to explain it. I'm all for getting rid of erotica since he's a creepy spastic publord, but for gently caress's sake the mark is at least half as responsible for this whole poo poo show.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Munin posted:

You don't need to be some sort of sub-human to end up in a situation like this.


People don't need to be sub-human in order to be dumb.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


I enjoy my Heretics. But I couldn't really tell you why.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Voyager I posted:

The other problem bonus with a fleet of combat Interdictors is that Atrum will have an aneurism at the idea of it.

I'd move some heretics down to do a fleet like this. It sounds awesome.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Booley posted:

If the entire thing had been nothing but a blog post by Ripard, nothing would've happened that wasn't already happening. It wasn't. It started with a blog post, but rapidly spread to an immense number of people talking about it. drat near everything ever starts with one person saying something and then other people attaching themselves to that. Also, if you actually read (something I question your ability to do) you'd see in the CCP post that they'd been discussing it for some time before Ripard's blog post, so it's questionable whether the threadnaught even mattered. This doesn't raise a question about if certain people have too much influence unless you think that people you disagree with shouldn't be allowed to share their opinion. He had an opinion, shared it, and many other people agreed with it.

Pretty sure CCP was not "discussing" this issue for quite a while. They just said that to make it sound like they weren't getting their poo poo yanked around by the short and curlies of pubbie rage.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


dialhforhero posted:

Late on the response, but...Why was your porn in the woods, or why did you think to look for porn in the woods, and what kind of porn is in the woods exactly? :psyduck:

For those of us who were in our "must find porn years" before the internet, almost all porn was hidden in the woods somewhere. So if you couldn't get your own stash, or you couldn't get to someone else's stash in your home, you had to go hunt for it hidden in the woods.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Nietzschean posted:

People have been fooled by equally obvious things in the past; for example, I used to be very disheartened that Theta Squad could not and would not form a home defense harpy fleet (and then Asher Elias burst on the scene and whipped everyone into shape and I don't even know anymore).

The problem there is that 1/3rd of the people on mumble have you muted. And you're often on at odd hours.

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CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


^^^^^^

The only thing grath ever says can be boiled down to "This makes my alliance's supercap fleet not as important, it is bad and should be gone." Or "This makes my alliance's supercap fleet more important, it is good and should be supported." He's pretty binary about it.

deadtear posted:

You have no idea what you're talking about. Grath is screeching about random bullshit and has no basis in reality. His current thing is how multiboxing is ruining the game, because he thinks that more than doubling fighter bomber ehp is going to make them die more to stealth bombers dropping bombs on them, somehow.

I think it's more that by making fighter bombers stronger, people will bomb them more. I think.

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