Nintendo Switch: Today we're debating the best controllers to shove up your ass.

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Games > Nintendo Switch: Today we're debating the best controllers to shove up your ass.

«‹›8 »

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Someone tell me: should I buy Hyrule Warriors or Fire Emblem Warriors

I personally liked FE Warriors better; it's a lot less grindy that HW, I think that the mechanics introduced in HW were better implemented, and the moveset quality is better overall. Both are good purchases, though; I even bought HW twice (the original Wii U version and Definitive). The FEW character DLC is a bit of a letdown, though; it's mostly just cut-and-paste movesets from other characters with a new model slapped on.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2020 02:00

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ¿ May 16, 2024 15:09

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

All those games on sale and the only thing I was interested in enough to buy was the Grandia HD collection. Also my backlog is already too big, no more purchases for me for a bit.

Did they ever fix the mess that is the port of the original Grandia in the Collection? Also, does 2 still have the slowdown?

# ¿ Jun 16, 2020 22:08

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

No idea, I probably won't get around to playing it for a few months.

Yeah that was more of a general thread question, because I'm interested in the collection, but from the state at launch it almost seems like I'm better off playing my PS2 disc for G2 and buying the PSOne Classics version of Grandia if I ever feel like playing it.

Butterfly Valley posted:

Also Turkey and Greece. But the rest of their post is bullshit so it's not really worth rebutting. I just picked up the 3 controllers I have in arms reach (Xbone, Switch Pro and SN30 Pro) and I'd have to say my 'neutral' thumb position is either in the middle of the 4 face buttons or, if any button, actually the left most one on each pad, and I don't have particularly large hands.

Yeah, my resting thumb position on both the DualShock 3 and the Wii U Pro Controller (the two controllers I use most) is with my thumb across all four buttons.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2020 00:16

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Lucas Archer posted:

Thanks for all the advice guys. Gonna go pick myself up a Pro controller later. I'm looking forward to playing a game where I can move my character towards the screen now.

I have one of the wired Pro controllers and I don't like the layout all that much, the left analog stick being higher up on the controller messes me up and the + and - buttons are placed awkwardly IMO. I have a $20 adapter called the Magic-NS that allows me to use my Wii U Pro controller on my Switch instead and I love it. My Switch Pro Controller hasn't seen use in like a year or so now. It also works on PC and is compatible with the DS3 and DS4.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2020 22:26

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

SeANMcBAY posted:

That�s not the official pro controller. The official one is wireless and very good.

My complaints were mostly about the layout of the controller, which seems... pretty much identical to the official Switch Pro controller? The left analog stick is still placed in a position where it blocks easy access to the - and Share buttons, for example.

Like, aside from maybe a slightly wonky D-Pad (I've only extensively played Bloodstained using the D-Pad and it was pre-patch Switch Bloodstained so... :shrug:

) the controller seems mechanically fine, I just didn't like the design much.

# ¿ Jun 18, 2020 00:25

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

I buy physical when there's a really good deal on a cart, otherwise I buy digital.

Butterfly Valley posted:

No, some goons are incredibly lazy and act like the last 30 years of video gaming/interacting with most media didn't exist and that changing a cartridge is a huge affront to them

Mostly, I just like the ability to carry my whole collection with me for portable consoles, and I don't need more boxes and stuff cluttering up my limited living space.

# ¿ Jul 3, 2020 10:46

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Chin Strap posted:

They make third party rings. No cart with them though

That doesn't negate the point they're making. At least when some dipshit loses/breaks their ring and puts out their eye with some improvised plastic mess where they basically chopped the top off a garbage can Nintendo can legitimately say "Well, we provided you one with the game".

# ¿ Jul 4, 2020 00:16

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Picked up Okami HD a few days ago when it was 50% off. Still getting used to the brush controls.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2020 10:53

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Doesn't color splash play like sticker star? I put that game down because of its terrible combat, not because of any writing or graphical sins (I didn't get far enough to discover those).

# ¿ Jul 7, 2020 09:57

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

BisterdDave posted:

https://twitter.com/gematsucom/status/1280351660519370752?s=19

I wonder if this means we're getting a new SNES Online game soon, or maybe it'll come packaged in a new collection?

IIRC Romancing Saga 2 and 3 are just standalone games. I don't think Squenix is big on the SNES Online, they don't have a single game on there AFAIK. I'd expect another standalone like the Saga ports, not a Collection (what would they put it with?) or SNES Online personally.

I do hope this means they're translating the other old weird experimental JRPGs they have in their back catalog, like Bahamut Lagoon or Treasure of the Rudras, though.

# ¿ Jul 7, 2020 13:30

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Mister Facetious posted:

That game was so great. It really felt like going back to the past with Castlevania/Ninja Gaiden/TMNT/etc.

If only it weren't so hard...

I spent a night beating it (both with and without Zangetsu) last month, and it wasn't too hard, unless you're talking about a Nightmare Zangetsu-only run, which I haven't gotten around to doing yet. Definitely more fair than old-school Castlevania/Ninja Gaiden (and TBH I like Curse better than I ever liked any of the Classicvanias I've played). Either that or I've somehow magically gotten better at platformers over my years of mostly playing RPGs.

# ¿ Jul 8, 2020 00:55

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

John Wick of Dogs posted:

Legitimately shocked. I thought he was the protagonist of every game like Link

I haven't played much Ys myself, but I think Origin is the one exception. It's set before Adol was even born, afaik. Also there are other Ys games where there are playable characters besides Adol, iirc.

# ¿ Jul 8, 2020 13:39

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

The Bloop posted:

Are you talking about the casino or the way back machine or what

I think the forging minigame maybe? I dunno, I didn't think it was bad. The most annoying part was finding ingredients, and AFAIK that's much easier on Switch because you can just buy them from the forge.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2020 01:53

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

please knock Mom! posted:

I kept reading AC as animal crossing and got real confused

My dumb brain keeps insisting it's Armored Core, despite the fact that I've never played an Armored Core game. Dunno why.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2020 13:36

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

I bought almost all my uSDs from MicroCenter, and I haven't had a single one fail yet.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2020 02:08

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

100YrsofAttitude posted:

Magic evade doesn't work at all. Means you can't dodge magic.. So you can just ignore it having to go up which is nice. I believe Evade will evade everything so just pump that stat up.

Actually, it's the other way around. Evasion does nothing because everything got tied to Magic Evasion. Getting your M-Evade up to 255 makes you nigh-invulnerable, and the Blind status does nothing except prevent Strago from learning Lores.

Similarly, the Magic Defense stat of armor doesn't function in FF7, meaning your Spirit stat is the only thing reducing magic damage.

Commander Keene fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Jul 21, 2020

# ¿ Jul 21, 2020 01:45

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Samurai Sanders posted:

There's like 50 licensed beat them up arcade games from the '90s it will probably only be accessible by emulation ever again.

Edit: regarding SMT3, it's intriguing to me that easy mode will be a free DLC rather than just included in the game like normal. Is it because of a subset of SMT players that think that having it in their game at all dirties them?

(I've never finished SMT3 and I would totally use that and just get through it finally)

There is definitely a subset of the MegaTen community that holds Nocturne up as the Holy Grail of the series and any gameplay changes at all will be received poorly by that group. An easy mode especially would be Kryptonite to them. They're probably a very vocal minority of the community as a whole, though.

I enjoyed playing through the game well enough back in 2012, but I personally think the game would benefit from a lot of the QoL features introduced to the series since, so I hope they're doing a bit more than just a graphical update to the game. If that requires switching on easy mode, then I will not look back.

# ¿ Jul 21, 2020 07:45

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

punk rebel ecks posted:

Putting in an easy mode is only objectionable to me if the game's difficulty is central to its experience. Which is very few games, but they exist. Most notable Dark Souls.

EDIT - It could also be argued that having a game too easy could change how the game itself plays and thus changes the experience. I personally felt playing Odin Sphere PS4 on anything other than Hard was a travesty. Playing on Normal takes away any strategy to the game and makes it a standard beat-em-upy side scroller.

WTF is with that image? SMTIV owns hard.

If you don't like it, don't look at it? It's not a problem unless they lock Normal/Hard difficulties behind beating the game in easy or something. Play on the difficulty setting you like, it's not a problem if there's more than one. Personally, I've avoided Dark Souls specifically because of that difficulty; I play video games to relax, not to put fist-sized holes in my wall. The games don't sound fun to me, and I might've been interested if they had a slightly more accessible difficulty setting than "dick in a vise".

# ¿ Jul 21, 2020 08:30

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

BonoMan posted:

My about-to-be-6 year old is finally getting the hang of games with Minecraft Dungeons on our Xbox. She can legit plat and do multiple things at the same time and yay father daughter game time!

So now I'm going to grab a Switch soon. I had one before and got my mario and zelda fix before reselling it a year or two ago.

But I'd like to also grab a handheld system for her and man... for as much Nintendo stuff as I've owned in the past I've never owned any of their handheld units (I mean other than the Switch).

6 year old - just getting into games... what's the go to here?

Let me just chime in with the best gift I ever bought for my nephew (who was about 6 or 7 at the time) was the original Super Mario Maker on Wii U. He loved it, and for over a year afterwards, he'd always hop on after dinner to make a level for his father or myself to play. Little bugger loved making hard levels, too. There's a version of SMM for the 3DS, and SMM2 on Switch.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 02:47

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Solar Tornado posted:

Need help to decide what to buy in In terms of gameplay: Collection of Mana or Trials of Mana Remake?

The only Mana game I've ever played was Sword, and enjoyed it very much, and I was wondering if the jump to 3D makes it worse or better?

IMO, the Trials remake was better in just about every way than the SNES original. If you're looking to specifically play Trials, get the remake. That said, you do also get Secret and FF Adventure in the Collection. IMO Adventure hasn't aged super well, but Secret's still a decent game.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2020 22:24

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

punk rebel ecks posted:

I didn't even think there was a timeline until Nintendo released that Zelda book.

Basically, I didn't think much about the continuity of Zelda (basically assumed there wasn't one, except in the case of direct sequels) until people started bringing up that Historia book in discussions.

# ¿ Jul 29, 2020 23:36

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Can you read it on a PC? If so, you could try and see if you can get everything off the card, format it, and then put the stuff back on. That might solve your problem, it's fixed problems I've had with SD cards on 3DS before.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2020 07:42

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

WHY BONER NOW posted:

Are them thar shin megami games a continuous series or can you jump in to V without playing the others

Aside from like 4 Apocalypse (which is a direct sequel to 4) you can so far jump into the series anywhere. Hell, I played Soul Hackers (which is a sequel to a Saturn(?) game that never got translated) and was fine. Some people are speculating that V might be related to Nocturne based upon the fact that the mini-Direct that announced the Nocturne remaster had a trailer for V as well, and that they seem to be returning to a similar art style, but at this point there's no hard evidence and none of the mainline numbered titles have been direct sequels.

WHY BONER NOW posted:

You know, I have been wanting a new game for my 3ds...I started playing through FE:awakening again and while it's a very good game, I feel like I'm just going through the motions Maybe I'll check out SMT4

SMT4 is good and I enjoyed my time playing it, but the beginning is absolutely brutal in difficulty. If you're going to play it, go in expecting to die several times trying to recruit a full party. The first couple of bosses are also infamously difficult.

# ¿ Aug 5, 2020 23:02

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

My nephew loved the original Super Mario Maker on Wii U, and reportedly also loves SMM2 on Switch. He was around 6-7 when I bought him SMM, and while he had trouble with playing stages, he absolutely loved designing them.

# ¿ Aug 14, 2020 12:11

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Kirby is always a good choice, and if you don't want to spring for Star Allies, there's always Super Star and Dream Land 3 on SNESFlix, as well as Adventure on NESFlix.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2020 11:54

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

OhFunny posted:

I assume this would be the Sands of Time games and not the 2D PoP or the 2008 game, but I guess we'll see!

I mean, I'd buy remasters/remakes of the Sands of Time trilogy.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2020 23:53

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

SeANMcBAY posted:

No IPS screens? loving Nintendo.

They're HPS (ham and pastrami sandwich) screens.

porkinson posted:

Wasn't the original NDS only able to connect when using WEP which at the time was already discontinued and known to be not secure? I remember having to downgrade my network from WPA to WEP for something and that might be it.

Yeah, the DS was WEP only for wifi. And the 3DS has separate settings for original DS wifi, so DS games can't use anything better than that even on 3DS. I just used phone tethering on the rare occasion I needed a DS game to go online for something.

# ¿ Aug 26, 2020 08:45

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Mega64 posted:

Now I regret getting Sonic 2 over Sonic 1 for Sega Ages several months ago during the last sale if I could've saved a couple more bucks (not really but whatever).

Also it sucks they're discontinuing Sega Ages, that was by far the best retro-restoration project of all the old-game Switch ports. Playing Phantasy Star 1 with all the enhancements, or hell just the freaking auto-map, was a pleasure, and they did a lot of cool things for many other games. M2 really set the standard for what retro game releases/compilations should aspire to.

e: To let things sink in a bit, the Gamecube had better retro game compilations, at least as far as Mega Man and Sonic go.

So are there any gameplay enhancements they did to the Sega Ages Sonic 2 port?

# ¿ Aug 27, 2020 21:42

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Bleck posted:

I'd still like an N64flix if only so I can play the good version of Majora's Mask

There's always Project Restoration if you have a hacked 3DS. It's a romhack for MM3D focused both on undoing some of the less-popular changes that MM3D made, and also adding in some neat QoL features (transformation masks are permanently mapped to the D-Pad, you can switch between old-style and 3D-style Zora swimming, some streamlining - like songs you have to play multiple times only actually play the animation once per session, etc). I never played the original N64 MM, but the hack seems like a good idea for the QoL alone. It might even make 3D the definitive version of MM it was intended to be, because then you can also use the MM3D-exclusive features like the analog nub and gyro aiming.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2020 00:53

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Spacebump posted:

Honestly, I don't understand any of their decisions with the Switch VC. It would be way better incentive to have a Nintendo Network account if it basically was NintendoNeflix. Always stocked with all the first party releases from at least N64 gen downward. Then they could rotate old 3rd party games that they get temporary rights for to keep it fresh.

At least in the case of new platforms, Nintendo has to write new emulators for each one (or at least they're hopefully not just stealing/co-opting an open source emulator with no credit). Netflix just has to write a streaming video player in terms of software, and the rest is all acquiring and keeping licenses.

Like, yeah, there's no real excuse for them to not just throw all their first-party stuff up on there for each new platform (or at least make more frequent releases than they do now), but saying they should have had everything from the N64 backwards up in one go is pushing it a little. N64 emulation is apparently especially problematic according to what I've heard.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2020 02:33

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

hatty posted:

All-Stars ruins SMB3's aesthetic

Sakurazuka posted:

Crappy NES graphics is not an aesthetic

Really bad opinions itt.

Nail Rat posted:

The catalogue of the classic.consoles.is absolutely not all on the Switch. There's three important square games missing (SMRPG, FF6, FF1 for laughs). Plus Earthbound.

Edit: no Chrono Trigger, what the gently caress was I thinking there.

I'd kill for a collection of 8/16-bit FF games like the Mana collection. Though with the Legend/Saga collection just announced, that's looking more hopeful for a future release.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2020 08:21

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

THE AWESOME GHOST posted:

Square sells lazy ports of their old games constantly. It’s weird they haven’t been on switch yet but they have iOS ports of FF1-9

Here’s a bundle of the 2d ones
https://apps.apple.com/us/app-bundle/final-fantasy-6-1-in-one/id918465901

First of all, mobile isn't Switch. Second of all, I literally want them to do with the games exactly what they did for the Mana collection; hand the original NES/SNES ROMs over to M2 and have them port them over with no frills or "enhancements" except using the GBA translation for FF2&5 and an official translation for NES 3.

Ideally we'd get Dawn of Souls instead of straight ports of NES 1 and 2, but I still have my cart and a working GBA SP, so I wouldn't be upset with the NES versions.

E:

Steve Yun posted:

What RPG franchise was it where they put work into updating their game for mobile phones and it actually made all the graphics worse

That was FF. The mobile ports of 4 and 6 at least look atrocious, and as mentioned CT had an upscaling filter applied to it by default that they only gave you the option to disable in a post-launch patch.

Commander Keene fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Sep 4, 2020

# ¿ Sep 4, 2020 08:35

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Dugong posted:

So this whole time limited thing has got me thinking about digital vs. physical purchases. I’ve normally gone digital but I now remember the Wii shop was taken down (right?). Does that mean you can’t redownload purchases from it? Basically, if I go all digital, am I going to get barred from downloading my purchases at some point in the future?

Yes, and from a strict preservationist/collector's point of view, you should absolutely only buy physical. I'm not too personally worried about my mostly-digital Switch library, because if the Wii, 3DS, and Wii U are any indication, the Switch will be easily hackable, allowing for user-made backups, long before then.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2020 08:50

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Does all stars 2D drop today?

It's already in SNESFlix.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2020 21:44

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Dr. Fishopolis posted:

hey

psst hey guys

what happened to persona 5 scramble

Last we heard about it was from a Koei financial report that stated they were planning to release it before the end of the fiscal year, IIRC, but there's been no official announcement yet.

I'm eagerly awaiting it too.

punk rebel ecks posted:

I'm referring to post PS2. It started with the Nintendo DS. Strange Journey, IV, IV:A, and V have all been Nintendo platform exclusive. Persona 3, 4, PSP remakes, and Persona 5 have been exclusive to Sony platforms. It's only the past season that Atlus has began slowly allowing the series to other platforms to a degree with Golden on Steam and Nocturne remaster on PS4.

This is why I never buy "remasters" of 2D games. They need to be played on a CRT, ideally a PVM. I played Final Fantasy VI earlier this year on a PVM and it was glorious. I saw what the game looked like on the SNES Classic and it was terrible.

Both Persona Q games were on 3DS, though. :v:

# ¿ Sep 6, 2020 08:28

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Neddy Seagoon posted:

No Rare means none of the following;

Blast Corps
Donkey Kong 64
Banjo Kazooie/Tooie
Perfect Dark
Diddy Kong Racing
Jet Force Gemini

That's over a quarter of what'd be reasonably expected out of an N64 Classic, and what'd frankly be the headliners to boot. Of the others, there have been remakes to temper interest with frankly-superior versions (Both Zeldas, though MM's is debatable, and Star Fox 64), a Switch remaster coming for Super Mario 64, and the rest outside of Paper Mario, Mario Kart 64, and maybe Mario Party 2 (Mario Party 3's never gotten so much as a VC release on the Wii or WiiU) aren't really big-hitters to stoke demand in the way Nintendo likes even though realistically they'd make bank regardless.

They might have the rights to DK64 and Diddy Kong Racing because those are both Donkey Kong properties, and Rare coded DKC which is on the SNES Classic and SNESFlix.

# ¿ Sep 10, 2020 00:56

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

The Bloop posted:

I wonder if there's actually been a ~~3D Mario or Zelda~~ game that wasn't over ambitious in planning and "cut" or "rushed"

FTFY

# ¿ Sep 24, 2020 03:05

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Escobarbarian posted:

Mario Galaxy�s music makes me the most sad I�ve ever been that the Pro Controller doesn�t have a 35mm input. I want that poo poo inside of my ears while I play!

Switch will output to the audio jack even if docked. If you have a wireless headset you can use it when docked.

Or just do what I do, hook your Switch up to your PC monitor and feed all the audio through your PC with a male-male 3.5" cable connected to the Line In port on your PC.

# ¿ Sep 25, 2020 11:18

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

I miss Subspace Emissary and I'm not buying another Smash game until there's a similar mode in them again. Brawl is the most fun I've had with a Smash game, full stop.

# ¿ Oct 7, 2020 21:31

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ¿ May 16, 2024 15:09

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

Tender Bender posted:

The best Smash is whichever one came out when you were in your highschool/college prime and could just play with your buddies all day.

So, 64?

# ¿ Oct 8, 2020 11:32

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Games > Nintendo Switch: Today we're debating the best controllers to shove up your ass.

«‹›8 »