Professor Beetus posted:

There's gotta be a gold mine of aliens alluded to but never shown because (insert some weird trait that makes it more difficult and expensive than gluing bits and bobs on people's foreheads) throughout Trek canon that they can pull from, likely from the occasional throwaway line on TNG.

Brawnfire posted:

Q picks himself up and dusts himself off. "Very good, Jean-Luc, a show of force. How uncharacteristically blunt. Do you feel better?"

jassa posted:

What BSG needed (somewhat ironically) was a plan. Instead of just winging it for multiple seasons and ultimately writing themselves into an unsatisfying corner.

But enough about that, we have a new episode of Lower Decks to discuss! It wasn't the most eventful episode but I still had a smile on my face by the end of it. Boimler channelling Riker was great, and it was nice to see him saving the day without Mariner's involvement. The Pakleds continue to be the most ridiculous non-threatening threat to the Federation, and I loved how they kept calling Freeman "Janeway". I wasn't expecting an Armus callback, but that was fun too.

It's a crime this show only gets ten episode seasons.

galenanorth posted:

I want to see "one bowl of hot ice cream, 0% melted"

or I'd be interested in how dangerously you can replicate before safety parameters kick in, like "one ice cube, 500 degrees Centigrade"

"okay, now one ice cube, 500 degrees centigrade, immersed in a container of boiling oil"

dr_rat posted:

An entire minute of Janeway and she didn't genocide any alien species or drink a single sip of coffee. What did they do to poor Janeways character


But yeah, tone and Dialogue is all a bit kiddish for my taste, but as it's like literally a cartoon aimed at children, that's all completely fine and good. Looks like they at least put effort into it, so good for them. Hope it does well. Most children sci-fi is complete garbage, so be good if they can make something quality.

The Bloop posted:

A single part-cardassian being in the federation is nbd anyway

It's really only interesting if they get into how cardassia itself joined

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Yeah this is the kind of thing I'm talking about, a post scarcity society has room for all sorts of subcultures and experimentation.

Arglebargle III posted:

https://twitter.com/MikeMcMahanTM/status/1425275424670576642

tl;dr 535 is much too large and makes all the other ships in the show gigantic.



Notice the enormous luxury suite windows on the Cerritos at this scale.





SCALE AND SCALE - WHAT IS SCALE

Matching window heights yields a more reasonable size for the Cerritos and the Parliament class.

Megillah Gorilla posted:

So which member of the design team has the eye fetish?

There were waaaayyy too many insanely detailed close-ups of Progeny's eyes for 45 minutes of show.





Apart from that, it felt like a an episode of one of the Star Wars cartoons. And I most certainly do not mean that in any negative way.

MikeJF posted:

Also, I really like the way they've done the holographic LCARS as 'opaque and physically solid over the consoles, but there are small UI elements that extend beyond '.



It's so much more usable than the holographic interfaces of Star Trek Picard where you vaguely gesture at thin unreadable transparent floating lines.

https://i.imgur.com/roUvn7r.mp4

And there's a really neat effect where it's semitransparent from behind but opaque from the front, so they can still do cool through-shots. It's super well thought out.



I do wish they didn't fall into the ALL FUTURE COMPUTERS MUST BE BLUE thing though.

People were suggesting that with the early cast list, but watching the episode actually stopped that doubt for me with things like Zero turning out to be Medusan. (And apparently Murf being a deep cut reference.). And there's a baked in mystery about these alpha quadrant species. And also from twitter the writer is clearly a massive trek nerd.

MikeJF posted:

Spoiler alert: ship in a bottle.

ashpanash posted:

By the way, Prodigy showerthought: Why does the universal translator make the big burly rock creature that previously spoke in low-pitched grunts have a high-pitched, squeaky voice?

What if Cardassians 'really' sound like dolphins when untranslated?

punishedkissinger posted:

youre telling me the amount of crying on disco is normal and reasonable?

edit: there has to be more crying in one season of Disco than DS9 and TNG had in their combined runs

DaveKap posted:

I honestly thought this line was about being trans and this was the show's signal to the viewer that it's time to think about this person as trans.

Because they're doing it that loving poorly. At least it all feels wrong to me for reasons folks have already mentioned earlier in the thread. It feels like tokenization and that skeeves the poo poo out of me. If I could see people with the non-binary/trans status say they're doing a fine job and appreciate the representation, I'd feel a lot better about it. So far, I've only read the opposite.

Pastamania posted:

.....if they can put holographic characters on Books ship, why was Book on Books ship?

Why send anyone anywhere ever?

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Oh right, that stupid thing. I swear that prop came from a new-age store.

Kill All Cops posted:

at least nobody on deep space 9 had tragic backstories

Dysgenesis posted:

The worst episodes of trek are the ones that are the most mediocre and forgettable like the loss or melora.

Famously bad episodes like threshold, sub rosa, masks and move along home are all quite entertaining and so get a pass.

Code of honour is in a separate category.

zoux posted:

Interesting tidbits from looking up the cast

Ethan Peck is the Grandson of Gregory Peck, who I now realize he sounds exactly like. Not a bad person to sound like.

Christina Chong (La'an) is thirty eight years old

Melissa Navia (Ortegas) is straight. I for sure thought they were queer coding her (and maybe they are) but didn't they highlight this show having a bunch of LGBT characters? I thought I remember something about a non-binary castmember

Jerusalem posted:

I wonder if the ship is still gonna be hosed up or still being repaired next episode. Either way I feel much more optimistic about this series, but I remember how Voyager largely discarded that idea of the ship getting continuously worn down very quickly, while Enterprise tried to make it a thing but it never really felt like they were pulling it off.

Gotta admit, the last three episodes of SNW have been so good after I was let down by the first episode, and this latest episode SO good that I'm kinda jonesing for more Star Trek and thinking about tracking down and catching up on Discovery after all. I forgot how Trek used to be so effective at getting its hooks into me, it's been so long since I saw a genuinely quality Trek series (DS9).

pik_d posted:

For a minute there I thought Lt. Devner was a CGI de-aged Aaron Paul, turns out it was just a completely different person who sorta looks like him with a slightly less weird shaped head.

Also at the end are we supposed to think Chapel has a thing for Ortega?

Wheeee posted:

get antony starr as a recurring villain while you’re at it

Charity Porno posted:

At least Pike got indignantly angry. Picard would have just tut-tutted

nine-gear crow posted:

Before I read the dialog, I was wondering why the ghostly face of Scotty was peering in at Kirk from the void of space.

Crusader posted:

Phylodox posted:

Disagree, I think Christina Chong edged him out there. Especially given how restrained she usually needs to play it. And the dog.