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FourLeaf posted:Ok, I'm sorry. I just thought it was better now that we have the evidence to support the Russia assertions rather than two months ago when she started off every show with breathless speculation, including implying that Putin personally ordered Trump to bomb Syria to throw off suspicion. I'm not very fond of her strongly op/ed delivery but the information she presents is generally pretty worth looking at. She hosed up pretty bad with the "we got his tax returns (really!!)" but overall she deserves a lot of credit for reporting on Trump/Russia stuff and being diligent about it.
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dont even fink about it posted:Fox is also suffering from the loss of O'Reilly. More like they're suffering from the prominence of Tucker Carlson 
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May 23, 2017 23:20
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I don't think any of the really successful conservative grifters are genuine believers, I'm sure every one of them is a cynical con artist just maximizing their income.
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May 23, 2017 23:52
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STAC Goat posted:Hannity was never some clever grifter. He was a low level, failure of a radio host who couldn't hold a job because he was terrible and had abhorrent views when Roger Ailes picked him out of obscurity and gave him a TV show. He's a true believer who got lucky. I'd like to just crap on him but the fact is he's been raking in money on Fox for 20 years  He sucks incredibly hard but it's not accurate to call him a "failure".
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May 24, 2017 00:19
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Apparently Hannity has been looking at quitting Fox / gradually being forced off by the Murdoch bros. for a while now: http://deadline.com/2017/04/hannity-fox-news-leaving-threats-bill-shine-rupert-murdoch-1202078870/ http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/01/sean-hannity-eyes-fox-news-exit-insiders-say quote:Sean Hannity is looking to leave Fox News, according to sources, following the resignation of Fox News co-president Bill Shine officially on Monday. I think we all know what that means by now 
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Gorilla Salad posted:I kninda wonder if some IC people took him aside and just showed him all the poo poo they had on the administration and the GOP and gave him the option of either being part of the solution or being the guy who went down in history as being the patsy for the covering up widespread light treason. I think this is how it went, and moreover, also with Nunes (why did he recuse himself?) and Chaffetz (oh gosh guy emergency foot surgery and I resign bye!)
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May 24, 2017 18:25
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evilweasel posted:His covering up was so loving incompetent it was backfiring. The Republicans want the Trump probe quietly obstructed, not loudly obstructed. Nunes was giving away the game so he got yanked out. I know the event that precipitated it but I'm not so sure about why he went along with it. Even now the majority of R voters don't think the whole Russia thing is a big deal, he could have dug his heels in if it had been winnable. e: also it has nice narrative symmetry with Chaffetz's side 
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May 24, 2017 18:38
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Crabtree posted:Fox News' plan to get back to the 1# ratings spot is to gently caress over a Republican House Rep into jail. If Fox would quit reporting the journalistic equivalent of rubber dogshit novelty toys that'd be just fine, I hope this is a trend.
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May 25, 2017 04:04
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May 25, 2017 04:10
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Crabtree posted:Fox News is attacking a Republican hopeful. Did I have a loving stroke? Maybe they know if they don't cover this story they'll lose a lot of money?
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May 25, 2017 04:18
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Tayter Swift posted:Trump's got his pretext, y'all He didn't need any pretext for this, and objectively he should have done it a long time ago.
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May 25, 2017 17:13
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RuanGacho posted:It seems like everywhere I look, more and more I see the lack of good people being in our government becoming the real crisis. The fact that we have people defending assault should be triggering recalls. This doesn't strictly follow what you're saying but it's related: the problem is not just that we have a very stupid and evil president, but also that he is surrounded at all levels by venal, evil people who know exactly how to manipulate him. Trump's relationship with his cabinet and the greater Republican party is a lot like a profoundly autistic person and a "facilitated communication" quack. http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...sabilities.html
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May 25, 2017 17:24
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farraday posted:Unfortunately the map showed huge swaths of the planet red and Trump misunderstood completely. Or did he?
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May 25, 2017 17:48
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:New major story from the NYT: Lame appeal to authority 
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May 25, 2017 19:08
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remusclaw posted:Comedy is dead. On the contrary, comedy is now universal and egalitarian, the people have seized the means of comedy production 
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May 25, 2017 23:21
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Yeah but how often is that happening? Are there roving bands of wild hogs terrorizing small frontier towns in Texas? Pretty much. e: drat, beaten like a red headed piglet
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May 26, 2017 00:01
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Starmaker posted:Roving feral murder pigs. I didn't really need another reason to never visit Texas, but here we are. Pigs with stinky meat, don't forget.
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May 26, 2017 00:11
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:...  I too had this reaction
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May 26, 2017 04:41
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Spiffster posted:Sorry if I'm a bit Seriously if you have a kid then that means you've had sex in the past decade or two and I guarantee you're ahead of most posters on that front
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May 26, 2017 04:45
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but I have a lot of poo poo going on in my life right now... financial woes, worrying about what this means for my already lovely health insurance, newborn girls future is looking grimmer by the second. I don't give a drat about my future as much as I do hers and boy howdy seeing all this play out right when she was born is utterly crushing any optimism I had left. Really need something good
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Zuckerberg's speaking style is like Hillary Clinton without the charisma. That's right I just typed that. Hard but fair.
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May 26, 2017 22:09
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:But how can social media ruin discourse if radio and TV already did?!? Social media can ruin it in entirely new ways that TV/radio could not. TV and radio are largely passive, and while that works well for a selection of people for teaching propaganda, social media systems are interactive and more importantly, they can be gamed. For the heavy users, getting Likes or being retweeted gives them a gigantic chubby and you can see most of the content people publish on social media is very low effort poo poo that is just forwarded or copied from elsewhere. If you have a propaganda agenda and you provide compact nuggets of your message in an easily digestible format, like (don't laugh) a funny meme picture or a really startling clickbait blurb, your heavy users that were already listening for your message will then aggressively spread it for you, to targets you never could have reached with passive media. Being anonymous is also a huge factor because it frees your promoters of social consequences for advocating ugly poo poo like white power, whereas if they appeared on television or even in radio, their neighbors and friends would recognize them. e: IF YOU APPRECIATED THIS POST BE SURE TO LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE AND RETWEET 
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Evil Fluffy posted:Yeah I'm sure Donald motherfucking Trump is going to be ok with having to have a lawyer greenlight his posts on Twitter. He can't stand being told No in any arena, he certainly won't stand for it there.
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May 26, 2017 22:32
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Majin posted:I think there is, and I agree with the previous poster. I lurk a lot. You may want "Socialism Now!!" But if you've been lurking or posting here for awhile you've got to realize the climate in America doesn't support it on the national level just yet. It's all about baby steps and some movement is better than none when you're talking about being more fair to the average American. The term "alt right" was mostly popularized by Richard Spencer. I really don't think anyone on the left has been trying to name themselves in his terms, the only usages of "alt left" I've seen have been poo poo like Hannity and other stalwart alt righters (i.e. white power advocates).
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May 26, 2017 22:44
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Turtlicious posted:I really think it's not her fault she lost though, there was a lot of russian interference, and Comey had a hand to play in it too, plus people were unfair to her for being a woman. It's a much bigger people then you guys seem to think. Here's the actual single point of failure, not Comey or Putin or Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypErSNcdu3s&t=733s This loving guy and his idiotic campaign strategy.
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May 27, 2017 00:14
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Filthy Hans posted:Remember when Bannon was considered the puppet master, the king maker, the man who whispered alternative facts into the president's ear, the one who stayed on top by turning them all against each other and winning the game of thrones? I still remember thousands of years ago when Bannon wrote himself into the NSC and wrote out the Joint Chiefs, and the massive direct authority Trump gave him to negotiate with Congress during the first pass at health care repeal. I know it's lost to the swirling mists of time but some of us old timers still sit around the fire and trade stories about it. 
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May 27, 2017 03:11
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Evil Fluffy posted:It's not like "the Irish are white people and not negroid monsters" is something that WASPs just all accepted immediately either. Yes it'd take years but it'd also allow a lot of awful and "I'm not racist, but" Hispanics to embrace the GOP when they otherwise wouldn't. I mean you already see the foundation for it with native born hispanic citizens who see immigrants and refugees as subhuman scum. Or the whitewashing that some people attempted for Zimmerman when he murdered Treyvon Martin. My mother, who was Irish/Italian and raised in Louisiana and was pretty racist in her younger years, would not believe me when I told her that both the Irish and Italians were not considered white people, not even very long ago. Made her super mad 
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Ice Phisherman posted:Mad how exactly? I feel she could be mad for a number of reasons. And did she learn anything from it? Specifically, she had a lot of bad prejudice against nonwhites, and when I pointed out to her that her own whiteness was only a recent thing, she got really angry at the notion that she might not be in the privileged class. She also had voted Republican her entire life, frequently telling me as I was growing up, "I'm a Republican because they're for the upper class of people" - when I got a little life experience I started telling her "but you're not IN the upper class of people, the only upper class people you even know are the ones you've worked for." Eventually she did change her views and I'm happy to say she even voted for Obama both times  She passed away two years ago and it's not totally a bad thing that she missed out on how hosed up things are now.
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Turtlicious posted:Eat a dick. theyre delicious
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If Hillary had this kind of awesome hit squad that has a body count of 100+, gently caress, why is Trump alive 
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Dexo posted:Better question is, Why the gently caress is Newt still alive. Because holy poo poo. Or Giuliani, or Comey, or even Robby Mook
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:It seemed really obvious even at the time that "online communities" for trump were largely manufactured astroturfing. Both really astroturfing where like russian chat bots were literally spamming twitter. But also that weird internet age phenomenon where a small number of people can dominate a forum in an organized and outsized way by seeming like a lot of people in a way where they aren't paid by anyone so it's weird to call it astroturfing but it's also a manufactured fake thing. Oh, you mean like GBS right now
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May 27, 2017 19:37
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Autism Sneaks posted:If Trump has taught us anything, it's that money can buy an education, but it can't buy intelligence. He doesn't even have the most basic table manners or general etiquette Who holds hands with a lady like this? Teenagers in high school on their first date know better than this poo poo. 
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May 27, 2017 20:47
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The Glumslinger posted:And just like how 100ish FYAD posters managed to drive this site into the shitter because they got upset they couldn't use the N word in GBS and D&D 100ish is pretty generous.
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May 27, 2017 20:48
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Spaced God posted:https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/868557253946871810 Every one of these "official requests for documents" that does not include a subpoena is just for show.
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He never cared about any of that poo poo and tbh Stephen Miller probably told him it'd look good to his voters if he made it obvious he was ignoring Africa (which it will).
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May 27, 2017 23:03
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It may, for a few, but I think it's like herd immunity: the more sickies there are, the more sickies there will be. Having that kind of ultra extreme right wing poo poo on a very popular news outlet only serves to make the extreme poo poo ever more popular. Stuff it back in AM radio or better yet, shame all the advertisers there too so it's unprofitable.
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May 27, 2017 23:08
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There Bias Two posted:How much more radicalized could they really get in terms of ideology? Lou Dobbs and Hannity have been unsubtly encouraging violence on their shows for a while now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOGI1urkKqY&t=82s
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Rinkles posted:I think you're right, but places like Infowars have growing, sizable audiences. That's true, and it's really a generational thing (TV vs ~the internet~) and the internet side is different since it's not strictly passive. With the TV experience you just sit there and soak in propaganda, but with the internet you have the option to go investigate what you're reading or watching immediately. Many people won't challenge what they're being taught, but more than you'd have with television. Of course that can go the other way too
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