Zephro posted:

If you want to visit you should probably do it before March 2019. Unless you like eating skewered cockroach and licking rainwater off the rubble of our cities

Gum posted:

So the Tories lost the least while losing more than Labour? The fact that you ran and hid after the election rather than claiming victory tells me you don't actually believe this bullshit

Pissflaps posted:

It'd take some time to convey just how nauseating and puerile I find this 'absolute boy' shite. And now they're using it to describe Paul loving Mason. Execrable.

JOHNSON COCKSLAP posted:

There are no words, just sympathy, sadness and anger.

To think I'm seeing this video in a fortnight where a tower of social housing has gone up in politically-caused flames, and so many others are shown to be just as at risk.

Namtab posted:

There's still a lot of appetite for brexit among people who aren't part of the daily mail commentariat. Even putting aside immigration people genuinely believe that the UK has lost some freedom by being part of the eu

Pesky Splinter posted:

Antares posted:

yeah i think the EU has a natural interest in maintaining the integrity of the union if the UK says "michel, i've made a huge mistake." but at the same time they were totally willing to brutally murder their southern states in the name of ordoliberalism. it could easily come down to their feelings about the person across the table at that moment.

jabby posted:

He had an approval rating of -42 a few months ago.

I'm all for optimism but the constant attacks on him made him one of the most unpopular politicians in the country. Sure he managed to turn it around during the campaign but we aren't in a campaign any more.

baka kaba posted:

How about nukeboatchat?

ukle posted:

Complete aside but the Americans almost built something this loving stupid in the 50's. Looked it up and its this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_NB-36H

They never got as far as hooking up the reactor to nuclear propulsion though, as thankfully they realized that it was a colossally stupid idea.

Night10194 posted:

Imagine the Tories controlled most of the levers of state that decide who is allowed to vote.

Nuclearmonkee posted:

Haha wait till Brexit becomes a real thing happening now instead of a hosed up thing that's going to happen in the future.

EDIT: Also this thread was very recently about a bunch of people being burned alive in an extremely depressing example of how little late stage capitalism values human life .

Party Boat posted:

I don't think pointing out the difference between a majority (unlikely but possible for opposition parties to achieve) and a 2/3 supermajority (basically impossible) makes Pissflaps pedantic. This is an area with a lot of uncertainty and technical detail and using correct definitions is important.

Junior G-man posted:

It just all feels so strong and stable.

Tesseraction posted:

Buzzfeed of all places is actually rather good at doing investigative journalism.

Serene Dragon posted:

Brutal. I really don't know why May wants to stay on as PM, she's getting battered at every turn.

feedmegin posted:

I, err, what. We like our Corbs but he isn't actually Lenin you know. Also, hard brexit would be the only way we could do really radical stuff like nationalising industries by fiat and seizing the property of the rich. The EU kind of frowns on that stuff, and the more so the closer your integration with them.

happyhippy posted:

How is Brexit going to do this?

I think Brexit is meant to reduce social and regulatory practices.
The Tories want it done asap so they can ramp up Austerity, and call it patriotism.

spectralent posted:

The EU reflects it's membership. If europe was more socialist the EU would have to be too, but they aren't, so it doesn't (well, actually, that might be part of the reason for it's present tensions, but, still).

number one pta fan posted:

I'd like to recount a fairly heavy personal story that's uniquely relevant today. I'm going to spoiler it as a content warning for abortion and self-injury.

At the tender age of 17 I accidentally knocked up my Northern Irish girlfriend. I only found out about NI's abortion rules through that, and I only relatively recently found out that she wouldn't have been entitled to an abortion if she had pursued one in England. At the time she wouldn't even go near a hospital with me, despite not wanting the child. What she actually did was tried to overdose twice, threw herself down a flight of stairs, and naturally miscarried in a psychiatric hospital. Which is what you do to young women when you rule over and indoctrinate them like it's the 18th century and expect them to live in the modern age, as fallible people who make mistakes. Every socially regressive policy has an untold human cost. Last time I spoke to her, ten years after this all took place, she was doing fine and had accumulated 8 cats.

Kegluneq posted:

Andy Slaughter, who previously resigned from the Shadow Cabinet in June 2016.

Coohoolin posted:

There is absolutely no mainstream left wing brexit narrative and I'm not happy to see Corbyn making symbolic capitulations to the racist thumbpeople Britain. Corbyn's whole thing is that being principled and doing the right thing worked regardless of "electability" shite, why does that stop being the case with Brexit?

Beefeater1980 posted:

That's basically everyone's definition of soft Brexit. Out of the EU but in the single market. AKA the least destructive way of acknowledging the result of a really dumb plebiscite.

Just out of interest: if the same majority had voted to abolish all disability and unemployment benefits and spend the saved amount on the NHS, or to grant homeowners the right to kill anyone trespassing on their property, would the moral imperative to Just Do It be the same?

Beefeater1980 posted:

Free movement of capital is building server banks in Shanghai not Ohio. In the short term speculation might distort that but over time, it averages worker pay over rich and poor parts of the world - everywhere that's in the system. It does the opposite for capital rents (i.e. it concentrates the wealth of whoever has the most) but this is usually moderated by protectionism and corruption, so local elites get rich off the benefit that would otherwise flow to local workers and foreign owners.

I actually don't understand the socialist argument against it and would be interested to know more.

LeoMarr posted:

so corbyn is going to champion an authortarian leftist policy of surging up police spebding ? how is this a good thing.