Strategic Tea posted:

One theory is that they're still out there. Some description of that battle have the Numidium wrecking poo poo before the Tribunal render it inactive - the version Tiber Septim uses to conquer the high elves is a pale shadow of it.

Except for one thing - the elves had sounding mages called mirror logicians trying to repel the invasion. And they're still fighting - in the Summerset Isles, they can still be seen phasing in and out of time and breaking your mind if you stare at them too long. The theory goes that Numidium's timeline diverged in the battle. Its physical form, aka Tiber Septim's giant robot, crashed back down as wreckage. But Walk-Brass - the god the Dwemer built/became - is far more than a piece of metal. With no Tribunal to deactivate it, it's still trapped in time, fighting the Altmer and trying to come back to the real.

Strategic Tea posted:

Pro fuckin click. What made that timeline go differently? Old Septim just losing his poo poo?

Strategic Tea posted:

I always figured the Hjalti-Wulfharth-Arctus mantling was due to them basically playing out the creation of Nirn; the fact that they were all Shezzarine just helped. Depending on your interpretation of events, one tricks the other into binding themselves to a soul gem, but is then struck down and bound in themselves, too. And Hjalti orchestrates the whole thing, as Lorkhan did.

Atrayonis posted:

Or maybe the Numidiad is what actually happened and Anumidium's historical conquest is what the Jills remade the world after they got done fixing the mess.

i am tim! posted:

Didn't MK have a couple of hilariously embarrassing meltdowns on Reddit over people calling him out about Vivec killing women by putting his metaphorical dick in their mouth? I know he had one about Dark Brotherhood fans "RUINING MAH COMMUNITY!"

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Don’t get me wrong: the world of The Elder Scrolls V: Valenwood is as beautiful and rich and fully-realized as any I’ve seen in a videogame. But actually experiencing it is a chore that few would relish. All the little obstacles come together: the combat is fiddly and overly lethal, the NPCs speak in accents that are genuinely difficult to parse, the much-vaunted translation minigame wears thin quickly and discourages the player from speaking with anyone but a fellow foreigner, and half of the quests end in anticlimaxes where I can’t tell if I’ve made a mistake, the developer made a mistake, or that’s just the way things are supposed to go. NPCs will tell you that venturing into the three-dimensional treescape without a guide is certain death, and the amazing thing is, they’re not kidding: ill-researched forays end in the player being eaten by monsters I’m not even sure are killable. All very gritty and realistic. My question to the developers is: what’s the point of going to such great pains with your gameworld if we have to go through similar pains to see it? I may sit down and play through this one with a page of cheat codes at the ready, but that can’t be the best way to experience Valenwood. Maybe the modders will save this one yet. (5.5/10)“

ToxicAcne posted:

I kinda wanna replay Oblivion after like 6 years. Is it really that bad as people here say it is (I remember it being fun).

Rough Lobster posted:

I always play a skeevey looking dunmer thief who's based on Tom Waits

My Q-Face posted:

Really? I never found dragonbone or dragonscale anything, even with my level 80 character.

Lycus posted:

The only whale-bird-snake puzzle that I sorta liked was the one where you had to get the sequence from a book. Other than that, those puzzles were so stupid.

Cat Mattress posted:

Daggerfall had pretty great old school puzzles, that is to say, frustratingly hard and mostly based on your maze-navigating skills. Contrarily to today's puzzles which are just condescendingly easy. Puzzle design today really is "if it's not blindingly obvious, players are just going to alt-tab to gamefaqs and read a walkthrough, so make all your puzzles super easy".

I also liked how the King of Worms sent messages in Daggerfall. You've got a zombiemail!

Cat Mattress posted:

And that's why you made a custom class with absorb magic as a feature. That and also only using "area at range" spells and using them in close quarters so you're in their blast radius and you absorb your own spell's magicka back so that you get unlimited casting.

armoredgorilla posted:

Nah just go here and download daggerfallsetup.exe

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files

Man Whore posted:

Never forget that once upon a time Bethesda devs actually posted on SA

Bholder posted:

I will even say that the main plot wasn't that great either, I mean the story is dead simple: Big evil guy returns and only the reincarnated hero can stop him who was foretold by the prophecy, surprisingly this hero is you, you stop the evil and everything lives happily ever after (until Oblivion happens). The interesting part was the setting and the background but the narrative itself is bog standard and not exactly ground breaking.

Berke Negri posted:

Maybe one day I'll actually stick around long enough in a Morrowind playthrough to actually get to and do Tribunal, usually I work my way through the main quest and maybe dink around in Solstheim a bit but that's usually about it.

Tasteful Dickpic posted:

I like it (e: Miraak stealing your dragon souls) because it interferes with the core mechanics and establishes Miraak as a credible threat through gameplay.

Do you get the souls back when you kill him?

Shbobdb posted:

Is this a joke?

i am tim! posted:

I figure that it's the PC's choice when the time comes by virtue of being a Capital H Hero or Dragonborn. You can meet other Dragonborns in Sovngard so I doubt Akatosh has a valid claim or even cares. Since all the Daedric Princes are fine with you pledging your already-pledged-soul to get their artifact, we can reason that they might just be gambling for the chance to get your big hero dragon soul for bragging rights or something.

Besides, there's a whole quest that amounts to scamming Hircine out of a pledged soul and sending it to Sovngard, so they probably don't have as much power in the matter than they care to admit.

i am tim! posted:

It's not like anyone is calling you The Fox or any of the other given signs

Orv posted:

And then the attacking armies are four dudes who you are twenty levels higher than and get beaten to death by the bare-fisted villagers.

Or more likely the ten archers you paid 1,000 gold each for that never move or animate until an enemy comes into their line of fire.

Gloomy Rube posted:

I've been playing Oblivion recently (Setting the difficulty lower to overcome the hp sponges) (Wish I knew about the +5 mod) and I ran into Black Rock Caverns and had a really fun time in that dungeon. It had a secret third zone and it was fun stumbling upon it. Is there any other dungeons in any of the games like this? (Preferably not quest related, of course)

Four Score posted:

Nah, Dragonborn is just a mortal born with a dragon's soul per a blessing passed down from Akatosh. I mean, that's the prevailing theory, which kind of falls apart because Miraak was just a dick and Tiber Septim/Talos was a regicide. Then again, the gods have always been pretty poo poo at picking mortal champions

Doc Hawkins posted:

Speaking of Caius, on a recent play-through, I read the book under his bed: War of the First Council. I must have done this before, and if it's the first history book you ever read in the game, you don't have the context to notice anything odd, but my mind was blown when I noticed it doesn't talk about "the" Dwemer but about House Dwemer, being the other "secular Dunmer house," along with Dagoth. Maybe this is just supposed to be an outlander scholar painting with too broad a brush, but it makes a lot of sense to me: the Dwemer were a totally separate culture from the Chimer, and only a separate race in as much as for mer, the former triggers the latter (see the chimer->dunmer transition and whatever's up with Orcs). There are other books which imply cultural interchange between Dwemer and ashlanders, there's the dunmer strongholds with their unique architecture and magic, and some Dwemer books were written in Aldmeris. I think the Dwemer may be best understood as a vanished fragment of Dunmer culture.

Wolfsheim posted:

Of course there's no way this accounts for every possible quest/etc, so I'm looking forward to dying of frostbite during some unskippable cutscene because I forgot to eat some soup before Sheogorath started talking.

Tasteful Dickpic posted:

How does the worship of Talos as a Divine correspond to the Aurbis wheel? He's not on there, so he shouldn't count, right?

Agents are GO! posted:

Lets not forget that Lorkhan is the god of Space, and Akatosh is the god of Time. Remember what physics teaches us about space and time...

SunAndSpring posted:

So if you think about it, the plot of Skyrim is the following:

Akatosh, who is also Lorkhan, sends his soul into a human, Miraak, to stop Alduin, who is Akatosh, from destroying the world. Miraak, however, is a lazy gently caress and doesn't do it, instead joining up with Hermaeus Mora, who is left-overs of Akatosh. So centuries later, Akatosh chooses another person to share his soul, the Last Dragonborn, to stop Akatosh from enslaving/devouring mankind because Akatosh is currently serving Akatosh's left-overs instead of Akatosh, and secretly Akatosh is planning to become Akatosh. Luckily for everyone, Akatosh stops Akatosh from achieving his goals.

Kamrat posted:

It's been a long while but couldn't you do all the quests without casting a single spell in Oblivion?

Randaconda posted:

Cat Mattress posted:

In old Ultima games, you had to type what your character was saying. Of course the engine running NPC dialogue was not exactly Turing-test passing, so basically you just had to type keywords. This is the inspiration behind the Morrowind system, you get a list of keywords you can try with the character, and through dialogue you can learn more keywords. It's a pretty clever take on the old system.

NikkolasKing posted:

As I recall it was mainly Destruction magic people didn't like in Skyrim. I used Conjuration a lot and it owned, had my Atronachs wreck everybody.

mulligan posted:

- The ring stealing quest was a rush because I'm roleplaying basically as Thors Snorresson (Giant viking dad from Vinland Saga) so all muscle and two hand swords and no grace whatsoever... but I managed to do it flawlessly (after many save->loads) even while a cat lady keep me on her sights the entire time.

mulligan posted:

Quick question: How do you guys manage having so many quests avaliable? Sometimes I feel overwhelmed because I have like 300 things to do and I kinda fear missing out of cool quests.

TheDiceMustRoll posted:

I thought that was mostly MKult fanwank nonsense. They do want to control the world, etc, but the whole "meta narrative involving the destruction of all of the towers to unmake reality" isn't something that's officially stated in any of the games.

John F Bennett posted:

That sounds like the dark age of gaming.