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Asimo posted:Modern people don't really understand just how horrible infectious disease was for the entirety of human history until vaccines were invented because it's been so many generations since we've really seen the effects in the first world. They rationally know it's bad, but the worst they or anyone else they know is something like the flu and that's fine isn't it? And if you did catch something bad it was probably your fault, right? They can't internalize that people - children and adults - used to get scarred, crippled, blinded, or killed just by happening to be in the vicinity of an infectious disease. I'm not sure anything will really solve this sort of mindset except another severe pandemic that affects a noticeable percentage of the population and forces them to admit they have to do something to protect their family from infections, like with you're seeing with measles in certain areas now. Problem is, the right wing is so entrenched in the fake news meme that even if a full-scale pandemic happens and kills half the loving population of this country, there will still be shitloads of people denying it happened, saying it was all just the dems doing it to make conservatives look bad, it was all Obama and Hillary's doing, etc. I'm honestly not sure how we recover from this, except wait for the next couple generations to grow old and die and hope those afterwards aren't as terrible.
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red19fire posted:once we instate free healthcare and free college So never
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Elephant Ambush posted:This page is only half a Satan though ha sat
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pseudanonymous posted:It's amazing to me how many specific constituencies are very conservative yet the Republicans consistently gently caress them over economically, and at the same time the Republicans are constantly hoorahing that constituency (farmers, coal miners, soldiers, there are others). It kinda makes sense, in a weird way. Those constituencies are very traditional and have been around for a long, long time, and the republican party is all about tradition and returning to former “glory”. Republican politicians want to retain that support, so they target those demographics, but they also recognize that ACTUALLY supporting those constituencies often isn’t really economically viable in this day and age. So they just…don’t. They gently caress them over but spend all their time talking up how important those sections are and how much they care about them. So when you need to choose between “someone that says they’ll gently caress you over, and then fucks you over” and “someone who tells you you’re great, and then fucks you over” you’ll go with the latter because then at least you can get some positive reinforcement and live in some kind of denial dream world. (And also blame all the bad things on the opposing party)
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euphronius posted:lmao it’s racism mate Well yeah but thought experiments are fun
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Tetrabor posted:That's what a normal person would expect, but why would they go a step further and ban their one source of exploitive slave work from ever being able to come into the country? I'm sure each one of them believes that THEIR cheap slave workers will remain while all the others get deported, so then they will have the lowest overhead and thus make the most money. Plus then they can exploit their cheap slaves even more by showing how all the others have already been deported.
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Apr 27, 2019 17:18
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Agean90 posted:Gonna rule when these rubes realize that they hold little to no electoral influence and that their whole plight is just used by suburban dipshits to virtue signal how country they are Don't those in rural areas hold the most electoral influence, because of the low population density giving each vote more weight?
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Epic High Five posted:remember when Sacha Baron Cohen went around a chud town interviewing Trump supporters but unlike all the NPR and third way and mass media stories, he didn't heavily edit it to fit a preferred narrative, so it was just nonstop insanely racist reasoning that had absolutely nothing to do with economics at all, and nobody was ashamed and they were all super on board with trump, lol This is from like a week ago, but anyone have a link? This sounds great. A cursory Google didn't turn up much other than borat on Jimmy Kimmel.
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Jul 12, 2019 20:30
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Al! posted:that's weird, delaney or hickenlooper or one of those other centrist shills assured me that a public option would kill rural hospitals The best part of Delaney's arguments about Healthcare was "many people love their private health insurance, we shouldn't take that away from them!" Like dude people love their health insurance because it has good coverage and doesn't cost them much money, nobody is emotionally attached to loving Aetna or whatever lmao.
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Agean90 posted:trumps gonna Holocaust the gamers Oh boy, what happened this time?
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Freaking Crumbum posted:assuming that wasn't just an unsourced quote, the idea is that keeping the farm and using it as a means of enabling your current lifestyle is easier and probably more consistent than taking a one-time pay out. if the govt is paying you not to touch the field (or otherwise subsidizing the enterprise) you really aren't out anything but whatever personal effort it takes to keep those subsidies rolling in. on top of that it's a business, so there's all kinds of tax Yeah lmao imagine if they only got like $10m, or even only $5m or $3m! How can someone possibly live on that?? Definitely not enough money to just buy a small condo in a decent neighborhood and gently caress off doing nothing for the rest of your life.
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Aug 7, 2019 16:47
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SamDabbers posted:Would you be willing to make a thread about growing up in the Eastern Bloc? I'm wondering how much of what we (who grew up in the West during the same time period) were told about the Soviet Union is bullshit. Agreed
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Philthy posted:She's right tho. They will keep voting red. I wish I knew how the whole pro-capitalism anti-tax thing happened. If they want infrastructure and government to run on it's own, it's the most socialist thing ever. Paying taxes is the most capitalist thing you can do. They want to individually have more money, and higher taxes mean they have less money.
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I think a lot of the “X job makes too much money!” thing is due to a general lack of respect for jobs without much physical labor. Taking teachers as an example, the job seems like it’d be easy at a very cursory surface-level glance. All you do is stand in front of some kids and read out of a book, and write math poo poo on the whiteboard! How hard can it be?! Same with the librarian from the NYT article - all a librarian does is arrange books, why does she need to earn so much money??? Obviously this is ignoring all the training and nuanced skills required to perform these tasks, but these aren’t immediately obvious. It’s similar to how lots of people undervalue writers, photographers, etc. It’s a job that looks easy, so it must be easy! And if anyone wants more money, it must be because they’re greedy. Notice that none of these people complain about auto mechanics making more money, or plumbers, or any other job that requires some kind of physical skill or knowledge. These are jobs that the skills of the employee are very obvious and in-your-face: I don’t know how to replace the broken heater in my living room, but the electrician does! He must have spent a lot of time training, and must be skilled, and thus deserves a higher wage. They just really can’t understand how difficult some of the jobs can be to do well, and explaining it doesn’t work because they will just assume you’re making up bullshit / exaggerating to get a higher wage for yourself (or, if you’re not arguing for yourself, they’ll probably assume you’ve been brainwashed or some poo poo). If they were to ever try the jobs for themselves, they likely wouldn’t even realize how bad of a job they’re doing and then STILL not think higher wages are needed.
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ikanreed posted:The thing is, they do understand it, because they'll make the same defense for CEOs getting paid so much. I think the logic is the CEO "earned" it by (theoretically) working their way up the corporate ladder, taking risky investments, etc. Plank Walker posted:they don't respect jobs with physical labor either, and if they do somehow think electricians or plumbers should be paid more it's only up until they actually require their services. it's entirely "why do I have to pay for this?" look at how many people will half-rear end home repairs on their own as a point of pride instead of calling a professional That's a good point, I suppose those were bad examples on my part. What is a job they respect? CEOs, farmers, miners, and armed service, I guess?
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My wife and I like watching lovely TV, and there's a show on MTV called Ghosted - it's a reality show about tracking down people that have ghosted others. Anyways, the latest episode is about a girl looking for an old friend from college, who suddenly cut off all contact with her. Eventually they track the friend down, and surprise! The friend (a black woman) ghosted her (a white woman) because ol' whitey is a trump supporter. White girl defends herself with "well, my family owns a steel mill, I don't like trump but his policies would be good for them" to which the friend responds "and trump said horrible things about the country my family comes from. You say you don't like him, but did you vote for him?" and I think you all know what the answer was. Extra own was her crying because she didn't want to publicly admit she voted for trump lol. (yes I realize it's probably 100% scripted and not actual reality, but still)
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Oct 10, 2019 03:59
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Huragok posted:its really funny because I was watching this with my wife and she looked visibly disturbed because she voted for trump too and I loving laughed in her face The best part of this is either your wife voted for trump and then just bailed on the country, or you're someone that trump wants to get rid of and your wife voted for him anyways. Either way, lol
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Oct 10, 2019 15:06
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TotalLossBrain posted:Surely this revelation can be worked into a thread title. My wife voted for Trump and I laughed in her loving face.
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Oct 10, 2019 15:14
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Not to worry, pigs will be extinct soon, anyway. Imgur comments are loving awful, basically on the same tier as reddit. Only difference is you can't change subreddits to one where there's slightly less chudness.
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Freaking Crumbum posted:i would think it's both, unless you're meaning that the donor class has 100% control of the party and its values and the poor whites are just the cargo cult it needs to make votes appear on ballots. my question was more "if the poor whites are suddenly no longer able to populate ballots in favor of republicans, what's next for them" Honestly whether they're rich or poor, all of them with kids are teaching their kids to be just as dumb and hateful as they are, so it will continue. The internet sometimes counteracts this, but often also fosters it with the alt right.
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Feb 24, 2020 17:31
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I wouldn't be so sure; it's been observed that Trump can get his followers to start doing stupid things but has much less success at making them stop. They just say that the globalists made him say that and keep on doing it. When has Trump ever tried to make his followers stop doing something? Literally everything he says or does is to make himself look better, and going against his mob's mentality wouldn't accomplish that.
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BiggerBoat posted:It's loving ALL he believes in. He seems to think these lives we're all trying to live and enjoy are just a dress rehearsal for our REAL lives. It's comforting for them because it doesn't matter if this life is lovely or if they're an rear end in a top hat in it, because NEXT TIME everything will be better! It alleviates responsibility while also making a lovely life feel not so lovely.
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davidspackage posted:There seems to be a great deal of self-deception with the rich too, though. Cause letting this crisis handle itself is just going to cause greater economic collapse down the line, that even they are going to feel. I fear that more than that they don't want the poors to remember they prop up the economy, they've spent so much and so long convincing poors that the meritocracy is real and richards are the engine that keep the lights on, they've started to believe it themselves. I highly suspect the vast majority of the rich have zero ability to foresee long-term, and are 100% about short-term profits. They're just so heartless and this economic system is so horrible that that's how they succeed. Also, who cares if it causes greater economic collapse down the line? They'll just spread propaganda to convince chuds to spend more, and also get bailouts. They will not face any consequences, which is why they don't need to think about long-term - everything will work itself out for them.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:It's even more insidious than that, often it means "People that make a big show of doing things or holding certain values in order to make me, a right-winger, look bad, but deep down I know they actually agree with me even though they can't say it out loud" There's also the implication that the person doing <good thing> is literally only doing it to look good or get brownie points, but yeah they don't ACTUALLY mean it. It fits in very well with the whole "they accuse others of doing what they do" thing talked about over the last few pages. Usually the only people accusing others of being virtue signalers are those who do it themselves. This also kind of reminds me of how the right insults left wingers by attacking their moral standpoint from both left wing viewpoints (such as calling them nazis and "the real racists") and from right wing viewpoints (calling them virtue signalers, soy boys, cucks, etc). However, the left wing tends to only attack the right wing using left wing viewpoints. You never see left wingers calling right wingers race traitors or whatever. I doubt it would be that effective, and would arguably be harmful via spreading and normalizing lovely rhetoric, but was something I kind of just realized.
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Hodgepodge posted:i love that posture that says "i have no spine and i must stand upright" Anyone have that tweet that's titled "first day of standing lessons"?
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:The poster above has it right: he's a heel. Even before I was born, he was a natural at being a bombastic tv villain and total bastard. The people who identify with him are the people who would do the things he does if they had his means or were free of obligation. He's pure id and animal want. Many poor racists and many rich people are basically the same but have been educated into denying or hiding their true natures as pure loving animals who would rape and steal with wild abandon if they could be protected from the consequences. Trump is like a powerful beacon straight into that lizard brain consciousness of theirs. Yeah he's basically what would happen if you gave some poor racist dumbass a gazillion dollars and guarantee he faces no consequences for his actions. Sexually harasses women, covers everything in gaudy rear end gold, doesn't pay workers, plasters his name and face on everything cus the world needs to know he's great, etc.
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Phobophilia posted:I heard some concern that Matt Gaetz is probably a front-runner for someone as stupid and untouchable as Trump. Who knows. His secret black cuban child/lover will be the test on whether he really is untouchable. See I don't know who that is right away, so he already is at a disadvantage compared to trump by not having name recognition.
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VitalSigns posted:yeah sorry I guess "post Nazis realizing the white race is going to die under Trump" isn't the quite thread topic even though I think it's funny when Nazis are sad The point of that comic isn't that, it's that "black people are killing white americans and stealing their stuff" It's not Nazis being sad, it's Nazi propaganda to get them angry at minorities.
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:When was the last time the flu, which this COVID-19 stuff is no worse than, killed so many semi-public figures, and murdered its way through Facebook so thoroughly? I think the narrative is that the flu kills more people, but doesn't get as much media attention. But also these people aren't dying from covid, they're dying from pneumonia and it's getting attributed to covid, or whatever!!!
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cmndstab posted:Good news guys, his wife apologised for overreacting to her husband being an insane, dangerous cultist so now everything is good again! Lowtax alt account spotted
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Magic Underwear posted:Wow, so trump has unlimited power, but also he doesn't wield any power at all. He's famously egotistical and fragile and self-serving and appearance obsessed and stupid but is willing to allow the mainstream media denigrate him nonstop for four years to invisibly further some murky long term goals that by all rights mean nothing to him. In your words he allows the MSM to exist to launder approval for a war...that he hasn't started yet? That he's about to start months before the election? Or maybe for the benefit of the next republican president? The shadowy cabal that controls trump and wants war for some reason decided that trump wasn't controllable enough to start their war? This is really confusing! I think the simplest answer is "they just don't want to kill those news sources." Trump has proven he can kind of do whatever he wants and get away with it, I'm sure if he really wanted to get rid of them, he could do it. But I think he doesn't REALLY want to, as having a "villain" to get his fan base angry about is how he gets tons of support. He's also taken a lot of time to craft a distrust in media in general with "fake news" to get people to listen to him and only him, and having CNN etc are a key to that narrative.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:what’s that even supposed to mean Probably, honestly.
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Declan MacManus posted:“i’m worried that if everybody’s starving to death because of donald trump’s policies, nobody’s gonna want to vote for trump I lol'd that she's basically saying "If Trump had more left-wing policies I'd vote for him! No, I'm never voting for anyone other than a right-wing candidate, why do you ask?"
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FMguru posted:This is basically that herrenvolk democracy you see get talked about from time to time. She really likes the putting-the-boot-to-minorities part of Trumpism, but she'd love it if they combined that with increased social benefits (for her and people like her). It's like the complete opposite of that "economically republican, socially democrat" mindset I remember seeing fairly often before Trump. I assume it still exists, but most of those people have either gone full Trump or backed off the republican party entirely.
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Vernii posted:Most Americans are incredibly politically ignorant. My girlfriend's aunt had no clue that Trump called the pandemic a hoax or that Republicans think masks are communism until last week. Yeah people just don't want to think about politics. I feel like a lot of people that are excited about Kamala Harris being VP (and anyone excited about Biden honestly) just wants to go back to Obama-era where they could go "there's a black democrat in the white house, how progressive!" and then not think about politics any further.
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Mr Interweb posted:it was an interesting theory until the bolded. surely as dumb as republicans can be, even they realize that being in a union actually benefits them, don't they? they may absolutely hate unions in other areas and want them destroyed, and they may not like the union dues that they have to pay for their own unions, but on balance, they do understand that they're getting a net positive out of the deal, right? i can't imagine anyone in something like say, a police union being stupid enough to not realize how much power they have by being in one. Sorry to break it to you but republicans loving hate Unions because of all the propaganda and misinformation. Even many centrists / liberals dislike them due to this. I work in an industry that is kind of infamously known for poo poo pay, long hours of unpaid overtime, and mass layoffs without warnings, and I've had so many coworkers talk about how terrible it would be if the industry unioninzed. I've heard talking points like "unions just take money and do nothing" and "all unions do is tell you where you can't work" and poo poo. One of them talked about how he used to work at Walmart and all the union did was take money out of his paycheck and tell him he couldn't work when he wanted to. They all of course love sharing news articles and stories when some corrupt union leader is caught embezzling money or something. They see unions as some bureaucracy that exists solely to steal workers' money while pretending to do something. They think of them like a lovely HOA - just a group that you're forced to pay dues to while it actively gets in the way of you trying to live your life. In their mind, if there was no unions then the job would be exactly the same except they'd have more money thanks to no dues and would be able to work more overtime! That'd make them even more money!!
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pseudanonymous posted:Part of the problem is you see your pay like this BUT THE UNION WON'T LET THE COMPANY FIRE THE BAD EMPLOYEES
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