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DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

The gently caress is a hotdog mousse?

# ¿ Jan 28, 2022 08:38

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 02:31

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

mahershalalhashbaz posted:

unrelated, i keep finding frogs in my yard and now i can't bring myself to move house because the frogs depend on me

Post frog pics.

Here's a cool bug I found as a trade.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2022 09:24

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

BigRed0427 posted:

Its times like this where I wish we still had a safe place to dunk on tankies

It frustrates me that "'Murika has never done anything wrong, hoorah stars and stripes forever baby!" and "literally every single bad thing that happens in the world is America's fault" are two sides of the same stupid loving coin but people don't recognize it.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2022 08:31

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Harold Fjord posted:

I'm very curious about this alleged near helldumping.

There was no shortage of harassment. I'm excited about this change.

cinci zoo sniper posted:

you know, it was good, but i still remember the paper bag episode every now and then, to enjoy the chuckle

Is this related to the noodle incident?

DeadlyMuffin fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Feb 8, 2023

# ¿ Feb 8, 2023 00:10

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Cygnids posted:

The common sense statement of “asking certain questions / repeating certain arguments can be a harmful act” clashes with the core tenant of d&d being “positions are not moderated / arguments are all valid as long as you’re representing your beliefs accurately” so this line of criticism isn’t going to go far unfortunately. Blatant bigotry’ll get hit but since we’re all humans other actions depend on whether the posts in question harsh the vibes of the particular thread(s) involved rather than analysis of the position.

What questions or arguments are you referring to here, that shouldn't be allowed by common sense, aren't blatant bigotry (since that gets hit), but are allowed anyway?

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Yeah for real. There was nothing wrong with the majority of posting and posters in the CCCC thread. Closing it because moderation is so piss poor seems like punishment toward the posters when the moderation was the issue.

I'll be a loving IK and push the buttons on the bad posts if it allows what was a decent community to continue to exist.

As someone who got hounded out of it, the community that tolerates continuous bad faith lies about other posters. Defending yourself doesn't help if you aren't a member of the clique.

It was genuinely ugly. YMB would just harass and lie over and over, and people would either say nothing or cheerlead.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2023 21:38

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

I do agree that you got dogpiled a few times, but to be honest YMB is just that way to everyone, not just you. He's one of the most ignored posters on the forums. He tries to be inflammatory and get under your skin, which you would regularly allow him to do.

Why is "he does that to everyone" an acceptable defense for tolerating it?

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

There were many other times you participated in fruitful conversations without issue.

Aside from that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?

DeadlyMuffin fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Feb 8, 2023

# ¿ Feb 8, 2023 21:53

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Elephant Ambush posted:

Nice edit but too late

You didn't get hounded out. You left voluntarily. Twice. Nobody told you to leave. You stopped posting in a huge huff because we cracked huge holes in your ideology over and over and instead of reconsidering your ideology and worldview you doubled down every time and always always always always got lost in nitpicking the definition of specific words.

The definition of specific words matters. Like here, for example:

hounded; hounding; hounds. transitive verb. : to pursue with or as if with hounds. : to drive or affect by persistent harassing

Or maybe "to force somebody to leave a job or a place, especially by making their life difficult and unpleasant"

I am saying I was persistently harassed. It drove me away. I came back because someone literally reached out and mentioned that people in the thread were saying they wished I'd come back.

When I did, it was a lot quieter, way more hostile, with less of what made it fun and way more harassment.

HYL is right, it got to me.

Elephant Ambush posted:

That or you did the "quote where I said those specific words" thing when someone paraphrased you when the specific words didn't actually matter in discerning your position on any given issue

Yeah, there was a lot of "so you're saying 'xyz thing that I didn't say'?" so I did a lot of correcting people.

I'm not going to respond to the rest of your diatribe since it doesn't really seem the place for it, but maybe I'm wrong, I don't really know the vibe here yet.

You didn't change my worldview because your arguments suck.

DeadlyMuffin fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Feb 9, 2023

# ¿ Feb 9, 2023 04:27

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Sinnlos posted:

Air Fryers are yet another monument to the excess of American consumerism.

The name is a monument to marketing. It's a convection oven.

People started talking about the as if it were a hot new thing a while ago, and it confused the hell out of me. How do you fry air??

# ¿ Feb 9, 2023 04:30

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Discendo Vox posted:

I would currently oppose use of the Rules in the forums; they're designed entirely for contemporaneous, verbal proceedings and are ill-suited to the forums medium. Any use of the Rules would require extensive revisions, and while I do have a modified ruleset that could be further adapted for Something Awful's use, I think the time investment would be better applied elsewhere. Additionally, a significant debate would immediately ensue about which edition of the Rules to use. Setting aside the scrublord "in brief" editions for dummies, there's a lot of controversy about changes in the 10th edition that have moved forward since the schism with the 7th edition in 1970. The full 12th edition is also relatively expensive and is arguably an inappropriate cost to expect many users to read.

However, in the event that the forum does choose to move to the Rules, I have a set of extensively annotated editions I can send to moderators as needed. I do have a personal copy of the 10th edition that I've modified and cut down for civic meetings which may be appropriate for public moderation deliberations.

I have an alternative proposal involving a merged Argdown and Loomio concept I developed a while back for the Nebraska unicameral, but I'll wait for a separate motion for that to be considered.

I move that DV be given a wedgie.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2023 08:44

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Harold Fjord posted:

Goons dropping esoterica (is this a bad word for it? Sorry if so lol) like Fritz's stuff and everything from Mormon Star Wars are my favorite.

I think everyone way overreacted to bish. That's just bog standard "libs tend to support fascism" drawn to it's obvious post revolutionary conclusion

Elephant Ambush posted:

Also lmao that anyone interprets that Bishayler post as a call for violence. Terrified that Bernie Sanders will literally murder them in Central Park or whatever lololol

You don't need to defend everything your posting friends say, no matter how outrageous.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

It's from 1990 and only runs in DOS.

Probably not going to put in the effort to see if there is an emulation of the game out there somewhere and a DOS virtual machine/emulator that will work with it.

Thanks for the suggestion, though!

Dosbox? It's super easy.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2023 17:23

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Leon, it sounds like we have similar crpg tastes. Icewind Dale is no BG2 but it scratches the itch a little bit for me.

Planescape Torment has an incredible story, but is handicapped by some lovely gameplay.

Both worth checking out if you haven't.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2023 17:57

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

selec posted:

Driving down to my wife’s grand uncles funeral visitation (sad) but he was a sovcit and very likely unvaxxed and got Covid twice (funny/sad) but also was a guy who would drive Amish people around to appointments (funny? poignant?) and after we’re going to a brewpub to have dinner and fill a couple growlers (beer)

The frogurt is also cursed (that's bad).

# ¿ Feb 10, 2023 23:40

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

a strange fowl posted:

do any of you grow plants

Platycerium.

I inherited a bunch and am learning to keep and propagate them.

DeadlyMuffin fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Feb 12, 2023

# ¿ Feb 12, 2023 00:17

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Furnaceface posted:

I have planted a tree. Twice.

Does that count?

Was it the same tree?

# ¿ Feb 12, 2023 00:37

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

a strange fowl posted:

it's good to grow a plant. i've ended up specialising in fruit trees because the possums keep pooping the seeds onto my gravel driveway and they sprout and i have to deal with them. my other thing is prickly shrubs, for the microfauna.

these are also incredibly cool. are the ones you've ended up with native to wherever you are? that would mean... the frogs

No, unfortunately. Most of the one I have are native to Australia, I'm in the US

What kind of fruit trees? I have a few that the previous owner of my house planted

# ¿ Feb 12, 2023 18:08

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

selec posted:

Like I laid awake last night for a good hour turning this over in my head:

Imagine working with a native people we attempted to genocide, and then gave token little swatches of land, usually relocating them by force or the threat of it. Then we break every treaty we sign with them, just lie and lie and cheat constantly. The government made a sport out of loving over these people. Imagine knowing that by so many socioeconomic indicators these people are still being affected by the genocidal policy, and posting that it’s conspiritorial thinking to not trust the government.

I’m kinda rocked to my core. I can only imagine that having a job working on lands of people who have in living memory unceasing tales of being lied to, cheated, robbed and murdered by the government that it would make me more the way I am.

Genuine heartfelt desire to understand what has happened here, how a person arrives here.

You literally stayed up because you couldn't understand why someone could realize the US government has done horrible things in the past (including the very recent past!), but still believe the EPA about contamination levels after the East Palestine derailment (after looking at the data they're collecting and publishing, and without evidence they're lying or obscuring something)?

You really weren't kidding about only believing people who agree with you.

Do you have special communist weather reports you listen to so capitalism doesn't influence the forecast?

Gumball Gumption posted:

I think the current spill is being overblown but lmao if you fully trust the EPA in these situations.

Nobody's saying the the EPA should be blindly trusted, they're saying what's been published so far looks reasonable and when people say it isn't safe, what the data supporting that is.

selec posted:

If you want to change someone’s mind, make them depend on you for sex

lol

Gumball Gumption posted:

This is also why you can't go into the China thread and talk about capitalism and how it would be better for them. They're a communist country so please respect that.

China's big on its citizens actively discussing other forms of government.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2023 16:55

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

WoodrowSkillson posted:

lmao at trusting the EPA good lord are you a child

If someone were pulling up the EPA data and pointing out where it was wrong, or not consistent with international standards, etc. I'd be very interested.

What I've seen is people posting data and saying "this seems reasonable so far" and others saying "capitalism ruins everything" and "someone on Twitter is posting about dead fish". It's data vs. tummyfeels.

Blindly trusting the EPA is dumb, so go through the data or talk to an expert in the field who has and see what issues there are.

Gumball Gumption posted:

Selec is just following CIA doctrine

#bothsides

# ¿ Feb 15, 2023 17:21

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

The data is fine, but it is not being used to increase regulations or punishments for these types of incidents. What's the point of talking about the data when it is irrelevant to the outcome in regards to changing regulations or punishments?

It's useful to the people present near the disaster to make decisions for their own needs, but how is the EPA using it to do anything?

Its use to the people present near the disaster to make decisions about whether or not it's safe to return is the subject of the discussion. So we agree I guess.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2023 17:43

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Harold Fjord posted:

I think the friction and rigouressness somewhat go hand in hand. The balance between echochamber and shitpit.

Except the arguments aren't based on rigor, they're based on vibes. See the whole "leftists should be lying about the facts to get what they want" and "I only trust expert opinion when the experts are ideological allies of mine" discussion last night.

You end up in the poo poo pit with people calling each other stupid for not being convinced by their lovely arguments.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2023 23:12

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Gumball Gumption posted:

What are you talking about? "Oh you feel alienated from society? Maybe try therapy lol" is a great joke that really kills it here in D&D. That's why multiple people piled in to make it, it's a warm hearted knee slapper.

Pretty hosed up, op.

# ¿ Feb 22, 2023 17:08

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

a strange fowl posted:

where did all the uspol people go

it was like a flock of parakeets flew through shrieking and then were gone in an instant

Back to uspol mostly. I like the analogy, because it also makes me think of making GBS threads everywhere

# ¿ Feb 25, 2023 18:45

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Rappaport posted:

Please don't go on a tubgirl posting spree, that was already done once today!

I saw! That dude had a very busy Saturday morning

# ¿ Feb 25, 2023 18:57

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

What is the Soviet version of Monopoly?

The game starts the same as Monopoly, then the banker is shot and the person to their left tales everything and doles it out to the others according to their need.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2023 21:46

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

oh is ariel back? it's been a while since he had anything to say

What.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2023 02:52

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Is Ted Lasso actually good? Or just one of those weird shows that people write about, but nobody watches?

I enjoyed it. It's wholesome in a way that isn't cloying, at least to me.

# ¿ Apr 4, 2023 02:35

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Staluigi posted:

It took people less than a month to make SAD exactly like QCS again and I will never not be impressed with the process

Yeah. Wild.

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

i can't wrap my head around where all you fucks get this energy from. i see more petty, tedious bullshit on these forums then i do anywhere else, and i'm a bureaucratic government functionary that has to attend community meetings

Sayre's law, essentially: forum politics are the most vicious and bitter form of politics, because the stakes are so low

# ¿ Apr 18, 2023 08:05

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Cease to Hope posted:

that does not seem like a likely thing to me, no. in fact, that seems like a bizarre and paranoid thing to believe

You're right. Everyone is clearly behaving very calmly and rationally at the moment.

# ¿ Apr 19, 2023 07:21

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Cease to Hope posted:

ultimately, you gotta let it go, however you justify it. the alternative just makes you mean and stupid.

This is probably the right answer.

# ¿ Apr 19, 2023 07:50

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Harold Fjord posted:

Hi it's me the idiot who kept saying "obviously it was LaLD" after seeing the Avatar and only having the context of him having already been outed.

Even though it was obvious to those who knew his posting voice well and paid close attention, the turgid flagella account was not officially known to be lald and it is a bad look for mods to out reregs of doxxed accounts. While Cinci's these version of this was the least bad possible, I am fully on board with a zero tolerance policy on doxing accounts. Him being a mod just really made it seem more like he definitely knew cuz of mod powers even though we later found out that wasn't true.

The long delay between the doxxing and the new account had me thinking it was just a name change too.

# ¿ Apr 19, 2023 16:20

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Are the Twin Cities still the mathematically optimal urban area to live in (besides the weather)? I remember in the 2010's, the NYT did an a quality of life algorithm and Twin Cities won like 8 years in a row. The theory was that the weather is terrible, so it is underpriced relative to the average wage and unemplyoment.

Sounds like the NYT weights weather lower than everyone else.

# ¿ Apr 19, 2023 20:29

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Doctor Yiff posted:

im willing to pay a 'the government isn't trying to make it a sex crime for me to walk down the street' premium when factoring in cost of living

Second.

Pirate Radar posted:

I don’t know who Iald is, was, or will be, so just as the twin cities or Fresno are mathematically perfect to live in I am mathematically the perfect mod candidate.

I question that math.

# ¿ Apr 20, 2023 02:56

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Pirate Radar posted:

Is pocket sand considered carrying a weapon? If you were to carry around a pouch of sand to throw into an unsuspecting eshay’s eyes when they try to roll you, would that be counted as a weapon?

(Fair warning: Reddit link)

Of course Dale Gribble is on Reddit.

# ¿ Apr 25, 2023 00:12

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

a strange fowl posted:

dad also gave me the whole of the clan of the cave bear series when i was 9. i learnt a lot about the world that summer break

I read those around that age, maybe even a bit earlier.

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

oof, i haven't read past the first one. i hear they get even more adult in the sequels, but i find that hard to imagine

They do, but in more of a romantic way

# ¿ Jun 12, 2023 06:29

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

I think they're a form of snail, judging by the trail of slime they leave behind

# ¿ Jun 18, 2023 17:26

DeadlyMuffin: Jul 3, 2007

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

One of my co-workers is asking how long you should wait after getting married before you can have a discussion with your husband about cutting his son (your step-son) out of the will and making sure that if there were ever any tragedy, that all of the their assets would go to her like in a normal marriage.

(She phrased it nicer than that, but that is essentially what she was asking.)

Her husband apparently took it poorly and they have been married for 3 years, which she felt was long enough.

It's a negative number. You should discuss it before you get married. JFC.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2023 02:27