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Posting to say thanks for doing this, and to try and get page 2, because page 1 is loving monstrous right now.
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Gerblyn posted:Posting to say thanks for doing this, and to try and get page 2, because page 1 is loving monstrous right now. I'm making a note here, "HUGE SUCCESS"
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Chiming in with praise for doing all this work for us lazy fucks. You should start selling blurry jpegs of upcoming posts. The whales with more money than time need to get their star shitizen drama on the double!
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Yup, loving this, there is no way for me to keep up with the thread but I don't want to miss all the drama. Thanks!!
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December Set 2The Titanic posted:
Spiderdrake posted:It's weird how square one is "these people are insane enough to spend thousands on jpegs of spaceships" and yet they still find new, inventive ways to come off as increasingly insane. ManofManyAliases posted:I'm a backer who originally pledged 8k worth of items, 4k were for friends of my org who have since paid me for those items. I offloaded around 1k in the grey market and now sit on just over 3k worth of ships. I know you guys have fun with the whole Toast bit - it's cute sometimes but mostly boring others. If I were Toast, I'd likely have much more skin in the game seeing as how CIG gets ginormous discounts on ships and all. juggalo baby coffin posted:i saw a glimpse into the good timeline where trump isn't president, where obama passed universal healthcare, and derek smart raised 200 million for LOD 2017 Dusty Lens posted:So this thread still exists but now it's Chris posting about his July blog. juggalo baby coffin posted:yeah some things never change no matter which reality you flee to Dogeh posted:
reddit posted:In render mesh management, code lock contention has been optimized. Generally, frequent CPU spikes on server and client side due to spin locks have been removed. The relevant changes mention in last week’s report as in-progress have been submitted. People on the PTU have observed the effect of a degenerated "spin lock". A spin lock used to control access to a shared resource when multiple threads are trying to work on it, such as a file or a memory space. It allows for very fast resource transfer between thread, but threads waiting for the resource are consuming a huge amount of CPU while waiting. It's useful as long as each thread doesn't wait long for the resource, otherwise it becomes a huge performance drain on all CPU cores D_Smart posted:Well, bad news. CIG didn't remove any spinlocks or sleep(1) calls in the latest patch. hence the continued hangs, crashes and performance issues. there are still 600+ spinlocks and 400+ sleep(1) calls still in this patch. AP posted:
Toops posted:My favorite part is not that the server crashes just as he's arriving at the place he wanted to go, in the ship he wanted to be in (which probably took an hour), and instantly got a criminal record due to CIG's buggy bullshit "criminal" system. No. My favorite part is that he muses to his subs "hey, I wonder when I reconnect if I'll be at the same place in my ship because of persistence. Also, I'll probably still have my criminal record, due to persistence." PederP posted:The CryTek top brass don't play softball. I know someone who was asked during a job interview there if he had an SO, because they preferred staff without attachments (family got in the way of crunch). They also had a tendency to try and trick applicants into writing actual production code to be "evaluated". Add to that the way CryTek treated their staff during their recent financial crisis, trying to convince them not to act on missing paychecks (which in Europe can cause a loss of ability to get compensation in case of bankruptcy), was pretty lovely. They certainly don't deserve any pity. But I am pretty sure they'll sure hardcore if they can. CIG sent out 3.0 invites to "wave 2" so there are a slew of new low fps bug videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kreYDDpscGI#t=45s (Commando dies for standing still too long) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F7P2GY4cRk#t=658s (ship spinning) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtHTidQT3Q#t=84s (disapearing head) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEdLe9uqW68#t=26s (ship despawns) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5vGophM_s (Flying NPC...) Hav posted:"A 1000 ways to die on Daymar" Colostomy Bag posted:
Ursine Catastrophe posted:Right here is pretty much the be all and end all of the last 6 years of CIG-related development hell. The "they built a roof before building the walls/painted the walls before doing the drywall" analogy has been trotted out more than once but it's worth repeating. Roberts hired carpenters with the intent of building a house, said "wait no I want to build a castle", got angry and fired everyone who said "well, our foundation and first floor is for a house, so if you want to make it bigger we're going to need to start over from scratch", and now everyone is making a massive Chernobyl-esque sarcophagus out of paper maché and elmer's glue, and they're trying to prop that facade up from the inside with a finite number of 2x4s that they keep stealing from people on the other side of the house. And it's starting to rain. Sarsapariller posted:
Sarsapariller posted:This place is really hopping- there's like 5 commando ships here which for Star Citizen is the equivalent of the Stormwind auction house steps. Naturally my FPS takes a poo poo due to all of this activity and I end up in a kind of uncontrolled drift-crash into the main tower. Luckily my ship and the largely-glass tower come away completely unscathed from another 2000mph impact. Somehow I manage to hang onto my bandolier of clips and medpens as well. Fidelity! I request landing, one system which miraculously has not actually failed yet, and am directed to one of the big hangar pits with the door that slides open for me to lower my ship through. Sarsapariller posted:I cannot think of anything more fundamental than inventory management for an MMO and trading game. It's such a solved problem, too. It's just lists and DB calls! How do you gently caress that up so badly? Nobody, not one person on earth, is going to have an improved gameplay experience because they had to manage every individual clip for their stupid rifle. his nibs posted:https://clips.twitch.tv/AffluentGentleOstrichPMSTwin (video: Disco Lando: "Ryan Archer? Ryan Archer actually drew.") Virtual Captain fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Dec 10, 2017 |
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December Set 3SelenicMartian posted:
Ursine Catastrophe posted:More likely is that everything is broadcast to everyone but the decision to show the dialogue is client-authoritative, and said client is chugging hard enough that it shows up for a split second before the client manages to figure out that it shouldn't be shown. The alternative was probably "if we default to not showing the dialogue, sometimes it doesn't show up at all". Sarsapariller posted:
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MilesK posted:Like, according to twitter Ben has been playing Animal Crossing. Sarsapariller posted:Man you should see the rage going on over the Constellation Phoenix right now. They sold this thing as a super up-gunned version of the Constellation with better shields, better guns, better missiles, a "Point defense turret" in addition to the two regular turrets, better armor... it was supposed to be some kind of luxury VIP transport. Then they released the hangar version 2 years ago, and it was just a white version with a hot tub inside. PC Gamer posted:The 10 most dubious in-game purchases ==Flashfire mount too difficult to implement, gets cut== Dusty Lens posted:
Virtual Captain posted:Wtf is flashfire I asked google: Drunk Theory posted:And then decided that no actually that makes warriors overpowered. So we aren't adding that talent anymore. If you bought that talent already, we'll figure out how to compensate you at some point. Tokamak posted:This is straight up P2W. Dusty Lens posted:It cost $8. To mount a gun. Not the gun. But a different way to put your gun on your ship. ==Lead Network Engineer slips difficulty with engine== Sarsapariller posted:Spectrum: Why is the graphics pipeline waiting for server updates? Foo Diddley posted:
chochmah posted:some are coping the usual way: "It could be thread contention that is blocking the CPU from being 100% utilized" TheLastRoboKy posted:Oh thank god for a second there I thought Star Citizen was hosed beyond all recovery, but it's an issue with player numbers that'll sort itself out when they all get sick of playing at 5fps and quit. Mr Fronts posted:Look, stop over-reacting. All the CIG dev said was, Foo Diddley posted:Half a motherfucking decade into development and they are just now realizing that their FPS engine can't do an MMO. And they can't just scrap and rewrite everything that they need to, because people are playing the game already. They have to completely overhaul the engine, but do it bit by bit without breaking anything too badly, so that they can show constant progress to the backers. Good luck with that, CIG Virtual Captain posted:"netcode" packs so much of SC's problems into a tiny neat ignorable box. All CIG had to do is say "don't worry we'll improve the netcode when all the major features are complete" and they would be fine. D_Smart posted:What Clive wrote is absolutely and patently insane. If I didn't read that with my own eyes, I wouldn't have believed it. wow. Sarsapariller posted:Derek you're obviously mistaken. He's not just any network engineer. Citizens have recognized him as a netcode God. Bow before your betters. Toops posted:HAHAHA holy poo poo. That guy has no loving idea what he’s talking about. That’s written like your Michael Scott level manager or customer service rep that hears the engineers say words and thinks if he re-uses the words that means he’s an expert on the subject. Cao Ni Ma posted:LOL reddit posted:This cig response has me genuinely concerned. My concern has always been 'netcode' and how the amount of players effects fps, to a point where the game is not playable. If they have to reduce the amount of players to single digits then it isnt an mmo. Probably the first time I'de had serious doubts about the game, i've always just had faith that they would be able to make it work. PederP posted:
Toops posted:I still can’t get over the fact that the CLIENT has to run every single player’s loving physics simulation. I mean jesus christ. Each client is ALREADY doing their own physics simulation locally, Just send the position updates to the server, what kind of broke rear end poo poo is this.
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Please print this magnum opus into a book that I can purchase and display on my coffee table for guests to read
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December Set 4Sarsapariller posted:Worth Watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TGTYOS44H4&t=1490s (video: ship explodes buggedly) Scruffpuff posted:This is something I called in my July blog two years ago, when I stated the following: "a project with at least one insurmountable problem never passes zero percent completion, no matter how many other development goals are met." Loxbourne posted:The Tenets of the Cult of Christ Roberts and the Church of Latter-Day Star Citizens. The words carved on the golden pages of the Great Book of Dreams, whispered by everyone from Ben Lesnick on down: Golli posted:Cloud Imperium Games LLC updated their California Statement of Information on 12/6/17 (2 years late). Solarin posted:
AP posted:You haven't considered meshed forums that will support thousands of blogs. Eldragon posted:
SC Thread posted:On the twelfth day of Christmas, Chris Roberts gave to me Scruffpuff posted:Here comes Crobber Claus Breetai posted:I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus, Mne nravitsya posted:Just had a couple emails back and forth with an old friend who is in the LA office on this nightmare, and he essentially said that (for him personally) he is just there to pull a steady paycheck, and that he and a couple other devs are using CIG to pay the bills while they work during off times to develop their mobile game. He said that much of the “worker level people” in the company are using this as a “getting paid to work on their demo reels” type of gig, and nothing more, because the passion and morale are gone, and no one ever gets heard for their cool ideas, because management takes their ideas and presents them as their own to upper management. Scruffpuff posted:Not to spoil the E.L.E., but there's a money panic going on behind the scenes at CIG right now. It goes along the lines that CR thought the game would be done by now, and he also banked on selling fuckloads of copies "off the shelf." Jobbo_Fett posted:Twas the night before Christmas, when all thro' the house
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Just leaving this here; https://www.scribd.com/document/367101474/Crytek-v-CIG
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Hav posted:Just leaving this here; "Crytek and Defendants subsequently formalized their relationship by entering into a Game License Agreement. In that Agreement, Defendants promised, among other things, (i) to use the CryEngine game development platform exclusively and to promote that platform within the video game, (ii) to collaborate with Crytek on CryEngine development, and (iii) to take a number of steps to ensure that Crytek's intellectual property was protected. Defendants utterly failed to follow through on those promises, and their actions and omissions constitute breaches of contract and copyright infringement and have caused substantial harm to Crytek" "Defendants Are Developing a Separate Game Using CryEngine Without Permission" "Defendants Removed Crytek Trademarks and Copyright Notices from Their Games and Marketing Materials Without Permission" "Faceware received access to the underlying technology for CryEngine (including computer source code). Defendants did not disclose this third party developer's involvement to Crytek, let alone obtain Crytek's prior written approval." pokie fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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poo poo JUST GOT CHANGED (NEW UPDATE IS TAKING WAY TOOO LONG) WE ARE NOT ENTERTAINED ds peels out on some faces oh poo poo Mirificus posted:Crytek v. CIG (Uploaded by qwints): https://www.scribd.com/document/367101474/Crytek-v-CIG Denial ManofManyAliases posted:What CryTek alleges and what the facts are could very well be two different worlds here. CryTek is alleging breach of contract, insomuch that infringement on IP is a consequence hereto. CryTek also had to make its engineers available for corroboration, which might have been hard to do with all of the financial troubles they've encumbered: Important Note XK posted:Just lol that mspaint scribble is now highly likely to be a critical piece of evidence in a lawsuit. Leakage Well there might be a problem AP posted:
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?! First Iteration - nonwoke spacetoaster posted:Somebody else did it. Probably Relevant Dogeh posted:To the newly registered Skadden lawyers dudes who just registered an SA account CIG digs the hole deep AF Bayonnefrog posted:Official CIG reponse: Some one else found this - but DS just steals poo poo at this point D_Smart posted:To add insult to injury, they are linking to Lumberyard on the CryTek logo. Scroll down, click on CryTek logo. Woke version last post @ Page 376 - Dec 13, 2017 19:35 EDIT: Someone go find the first post pointing out that CIG pretty much admitted to breaching the contract in their FIRST public statement on the lawsuit. In true CIG incompetent fashion. downout fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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What is this supposed to illustrate?
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December Set 5D_Smart posted:https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/940988268572807168 It wasn't long before someone paid the site's fee and posted the entire complaint here and the drama was afoot. CryTek's lagal representation is Skadden, so called "Wall Street's Most Powerful Law Firm" "Skadden. The name, terse and uncompromising, symbolizes the most rarefied levels of corporate law, where clients throw platoons of attorneys at a problem and barely blink at the resulting $50,000-an-hour bills." Recomended musical accompanyment to this update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYgnzKol6bY TheAgent posted:this is bad. like really bad Virtual Captain posted:
TheAgent posted:this could easily be a $50m to $100m+ lawsuit Scruffpuff posted:"I think you'll see, your honor, that CIG in fact didn't develop ANY video games, so we move to dismiss, please. Checkmate legal goonie!" TheAgent posted:holy gently caress at them not providing code fixes and improvements back to crytek as part of their agreement TheAgent posted:gently caress me I think this is probably the worst bomb right here VictorianQueerLit posted:Yeah I know nothing about legal matters but seeing about 40 different clauses of the GLA being breached is a pretty clear indication to even a layman of the scope of this. UNCUT PHILISTINE posted:Christmas miracles really do happen Dusty Lens posted:We're now at 2:05 in The Hall of the Mountain King. TheAgent posted:this also means that the faceware camera might completely be stalled, as the underlying technology was shared with them without CryTeks approval VictorianQueerLit posted:News hit the r/starcitizen discord. Some highlights Sarsapariller posted:Citizen olympic-level mental gymnastics have begun: BeigeJacket posted:Derek Smart has covered himself in glory. tuo posted:Ortwin will come out as the ultimate inverse-reverse-super-troll. https://twitter.com/CliffordakaMiku/status/941014813148409857 (tweet: looks like @Crytek is hurting for money so they want to pick on @RobertsSpaceInd I really hope Chris unleashes the full fire and fury that is Ortwin; Hey @Crytek get over the butt hurt!) https://twitter.com/CliffordakaMiku/status/941021855695196160 (tweet: I just think it’s s big waste of court time and our pledge money. Maybe I should sue @Crytek for trying to take my $52K) Virtual Captain posted:I thought Clifford was dedicated to the dream. Now I find out he is only in for $52K? Nyast posted:Well, the pretty funny thing is that they're hosed no matter what the truth is ( assuming Crytek's claims are right ofc ). TheAgent posted:naw, like derek said, this is the first stumble down a long flight of stairs Crazypoops posted:I just love how royally hosed they are no matter what. They can't say they didn't switch engines because of all of the points they broke, but they can't say they switched either because that is ALSO breaking the contract. Dogeh posted:To the newly registered Skadden lawyers dudes who just registered an SA account HycoCam posted:CIG is going to claim: Game? What game? All we have is an alpha tech demo at best. There is no game here. SQ42 and Star Citizen is simply market speak for raising money--they are both the same thing! Missing splash screen logos? These are test builds--you don't understand game development. ewe2 posted:Here's a little song I wrote, you might want to learn it note for note, don't worry be happy A Neurotic Corncob posted:[Fetching Legal Documents] peter gabriel posted:CryTek: 'So if we win we get everything?' That DICK! posted:i just talked to a pretty fancy lawyer and he's not as optimistic about this lawsuit as most. he says sicne the game isn't out and probably won't ever be they basically can't show profits and any money they collect related to the crowdfunding stuff would have to be stipulated in the contract CIG breached. also the permanent injunction only barely maybe stands a chance as it relates to squadron 42 not star citizen because that's all contract breach stuff not copyright infringement stuff bandaid.friend posted:https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/12/crytek-sues-star-citizen-makers-for-breaching-contract/ alphabettitouretti posted:Yeah they're turbofucked. The very best case is this is without merit and thrown out the moment it gets in front of a judge, and there's no other 100% guaranteed legal action coming their way (lol). peter gabriel posted:No, there is no other road than 100% comedy here. Beet Wagon posted:Hey remember when we were all like "haha lol the only devs they have are brand new FullSail grads" and reddit was like "Nuh uh they're all experts" quote:
226 posted:Don't worry guys Crytek is just about bankrupt anyway... mjotto posted:If CryTek would go bankrupt, he could have continued to use his custom CE code without having to pay for it. That's probably why he didn't pay them, just waiting for them to fall over and having an engine for free. When Amazon saved CryTek, Chris knew he was hosed and had to pay CryTek. By switching to Lumberyard, he tried to avoid those costs. Probably. Dusty Lens posted:
Gramps posted:I can't fathom that any Shitizen would think that Crytek hired Skadden for a quick 100k or so. 1/4th of the team that peeled a half billion off of oculus is going to do similar work for less than a thousandth the payday? Not fuckin likely, bucko. Each lawyer on that team is going to pocket 7 figures minimum. I really do feel bad for the people who just wanted to play a fun cool game, but goddamn man. From an observer's perspective this whole endeavor seemed like a kid who won a paper airplane contest in middleschool decided to crowdfund a mission to proxima centauri. Actually that's a bit generous as I think the average bright middle school kid probably has better organizational skills than the Crobbler AP posted:This goes to the heart of what has happened to all the money in my view. ComfyPants posted:Crobby! We gotta go back! Back to before the "engine switch!" Something's gotta be done about your lawsuits! Virtual Captain posted:StarCitizen Tracker Guy: Great drama Derek, any idea how long CryTek has been in contact with Skadden over this? D_Smart posted:FYI, today was just the tip of the iceberg. If you need more breakdown, some "Actual Copyright Attorney" reads the entire document for 1 hour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MzzuiQVTDw&t=231s Virtual Captain fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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pokie posted:What is this supposed to illustrate? It's a doodle that a CIG dev made to explain the transition from CryEngine to Lumberyard. Derek mentioned yesterday that it was likely to become evidence if this goes to court.
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This thread is loving great and what I've been hoping someone would do for like the past two years of all this SC drama. Thanks dude! Also, ewe2 posted:Here's a little song I wrote, you might want to learn it note for note, don't worry be happy
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December Set 6Tokamak posted:CIG forked CryEngine 3.7 and modified it by over 50%. The_Groove posted:
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D_Smart posted:I expect that I'm going to be busy with interviews, streams, my Star Citizen book (talking to Amazon Publishing and others) etc. Toops posted:At my current company, every single programming language, library, package, etc has to be cleared with legal. This is a Java shop, with a Node-based front-end, so... that's a lot. Every class file has to have an up-to-date copyright header. I leave comments in code reviews all the time to the tune of "please update the copyright header." Now, the punk-rear end "gently caress yeah!" skateboarder rebel in me is like "jesus christ this corporate poo poo is a stupid waste of time," but the professional adult knows that when you screw this kind of thing up, you put your company and everyone that works there at risk. kw0134 posted:Amazon has no dog in this fight. It could arise that someone at Amazon induced a breach of contract, but that should be unimaginably stupid that in this saga where there's always more and it's even dumber then you could have imagined, I draw the line there. SomethingJones posted:Skadden and Crytek have just gone all in with a two-pair and a Queen and we haven't even seen the flop yet. Ortwin and Chris are sitting across the table with a sheet of paper with the WingDings font printed out on it. SomethingJones posted:Star Citizen: Around the Verse Drunk Theory posted:So that's why development has only started yesterday. loving time has been running backwards. Virtual Captain posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Piy-ibiq1M&t=2614s The Titanic posted:Nobody will ever ask “so uh... why didn’t you just adhere to your written contractual agreements?” Because that’s simply absurd! The Titanic posted:https://twitter.com/_icze4r/status/941573008229126144 hot balls man no homo posted:
AbstractNapper posted:Promises! reverend crabhands posted:- Coutts did their due diligence, Coutts was aware when they handed over the dosh for Sq42 rights Phi230 posted:I pray that this goes to trial because that is the funniest option I Greyhound posted:I've been involved in a few patent and civil liability suits, and those rarely go to trial, but they do often involve a lot of discovery and depositions and reports before they settle. A lot of the time, the two sides consider it worth going through those initial expenses to size up their chances, and also to try to get a better settlement, so it's not uncommon for settlements to be reached the day before the start of the full trial. EminusSleepus posted:All this talk about "discovery" can someone enlighten me? Is it a new ship? XK posted:I just saw the argument that CIG can settle by giving CryTek a portion of sales of only the game packages. All the ship sales are separate, so they don't have to give any of that money. Therefore it will only be a few million. Dusty Lens posted:Crytek: Hello your client broke the contract. D_Smart posted:Right now, the plan is for hardcover, paperback and Kindle. So anyone buying and send me their copy in a self-addressed return mailer, will get it signed. peter gabriel posted:I don't care about the law stuff, it'll get funny on its own. kw0134 posted:Every insider should have seen this suit coming. These aren't obscure clauses like the infamous "bowl of M&Ms without any brown ones," these would go to the very heart of why there's a commercial relationship between the two parties. And at least on the allegations, everyone's seen that CIG has very loudly advertised what in retrospect is rather damning evidence. We're not testing the limits of IP law or needing to go on fishing expeditions through the parties' paper trail, Crytek is alleging that anyone with a pair of eyes would be seeing enormous breaches of the contract, things that are still happening to this day with the latest release of Bugsmashers. reddit posted:I've probably put maybe 15-20 hrs into 3.0 and filed dozens of issues. I've never actually completed a mission. Not one. Comedy of errors: Lechtansi posted:My favorite thing thats happened in the last few days is that when the Shitizens quote CIGs response to crytek, they've edited out the infringing part. Loxbourne posted:In his hour of triumph, I'd like to devote an effortpost to Derek Smart himself. A dangerous past-time, perhaps, but an important question to ask. I'm here for the laughs like most of the thread but I also want to see CIG pulled apart and picked over. I want to read Coutts' debtor reports, see the forensic accountants go over the books, get as many backers out as are willing to be saved. Taking CIG apart properly means doing ballistic analysis of the huge great burning trail blasted through it by one man. Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I love the "I'm not in a cult, YOU'RE in a cult!" response. It's the perfect amalgamation of self delusion, sunk cost fallacy, and deflection. peter gabriel posted:Is there anything funnier than CIG being sued by CryTek for not fixing bugs in a timely manner? Scruffpuff posted:
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ewe2 posted:Thank you all for a better than expected year. It's ending with a bang, and you can't ask for more. So in the spirit of the season, I give you: Virtual Captain fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Dec 17, 2017 |
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Virtual Captain posted:fools coke lol fools coke isn't that just crack
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Alan Smithee posted:lol fools coke Pepsi and Sudafed
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Four Loko?
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December Set 7PederP posted:I think the Coutts loan is a trivial detail in this story, and got blown out of proportion because some of the paperwork was public. Having to put up everything as collateral is a completely normal way to get a good deal on interest. Collateral and credit do not need to match in value, and in fact rarely do. Golli posted:Amazon has an article linked on their AWS | Lumberyard page that includes quotes from Carl Jones talking about the switch. Natron posted:I just wanted to chime in with a quick effort post about something I keep hearing the dedicated citizens say. They keep claiming that the timing of this lawsuit is suspect and that Crytek is only doing this because they're out of money/failed/bad dudes. G0RF posted:Note to the CIG Intern reading this thread for objectionable material for senior management: Do you really think Chris and Sandi need more crap to worry about right now? The dissent you’ve been long tasked with monitoring and cataloging has gone viral. It didn’t all originate here, or with Derek, it emerges naturally for reasonable minds paying passing attention to the non-stop marathons of self-owns, unforced errors, overpromises and undeliveries and uninterrupted lying that “filters from the top” of CIG. The true enemy of this project was within all along. They sent you here. So it really might be time to polish up that CV, file your honest Glassdoor take, and bounce to a better job at a company not in terminal decay spiral induced by moral turpitude and gross incompetence. You deserve better! Latin Pheonix posted:We don't have the GLA, nor do we know what communication took place between CIG and Crytek. What we can assume, however, is that: DapperDon posted:
G0RF posted:Ben's story arc is just really amazing. After being raptured from the education system and snatched up to the opportunity of a lifetime to serve at the pleasure of his godking, he got to watch firsthand as that man destroyed — mistake after mistake, impulse after impulse, lie after lie — the greatest opportunity even bestowed upon an independent developer in gaming history. Scruffpuff posted:Ben is quite literally defective on a fundamental level. Something (or a great many somethings) are violently misfiring in his brain. I think a true victory is Ben snapping out of it, turning on CIG, and burying the true villains. D_Smart posted:Today's wahlording unroll Bayonnefrog posted:
Worth Clicking: https://clips.twitch.tv/ObliviousAnnoyingFoxMrDestructoid (video: CIG Community Manager reacts to follow from 'CryTek_Legal_Team') Worth Clicking: https://clips.twitch.tv/ScrumptiousAmazonianManateeOSsloth (video: CIG Community Manager: What are you guys doing for the holiday livestream? Backer: Getting very drunk because you always disappoint us :ohsnap:)
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December Set 8reddit posted:I'm about out of good faith for Chris. It's been one hell of a wait. If they can't resolve the garbage performance and start making leaps in development now that "the core of the game is there" I'm going to completely stop telling people about the game. Seriously tired of people giving me poo poo just because I'm excited for a game that has, so far, disappointed absolutely every single one of my friends, RL and online gaming friends. biglads posted:I would say they are abandoning ship, but as they only have pictures of ships they can't really. Cao Ni Ma posted:
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TheAgent posted:Chris Roberts, Visionary TheAgent posted:holy poo poo people on sc_trades are trying to sell things at 20% to 25% below their value and they aren't moving at al lol EightAce posted:Massively Overpowered’s Worst MMO Business Model Award goes to Star Citizen Lack of Gravitas posted:Jeffrey McArthur passed away on Friday in Exton PA, aged 61. juggalo baby coffin posted:so i figured it was time i did some sort of effortpost given that i've been following this shitshow on and off since it started. this is less a post for true FUD-sippers, and more one as a response to all the people who have said 'well yeah its a scam now, but you guys have been calling it a scam for years, even when it was a legit game'. Virtual Captain fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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December Set 9Beet Wagon posted:
The Rabbi T. White posted:I see Derek finally defeated the vending machine. juggalo baby coffin posted:
Beet Wagon posted:"He can't control the narrative!" I say, comparing my 400 followers to his 7,000 and wildly tweeting about the time my forums enemy went on a facebook stream to literally control the narrative. Colostomy Bag posted:Apologies to Charlies Daniels: ScoreLord posted:Any Australians in the thread may wish to pick up the latest issue of PC PowerPlay; it contains a column predicting what will occur in the world of gaming in 2018, including a few key events for Star Citizen. Loxbourne posted:
Mr.Tophat posted:Filthy backers, let them stare into the bog that holds their reflection and dreams forever, let the water rise above their heads as they lose themselves to the vision, let their opinions rise like so many, 'glub-glub-glubs' to the surface, rendered mute and vacuous by their willingness to be immersed in their product. Mr.Tophat posted:The real treasure is the grief we made along the way D_Smart posted:I'm now at 6.5 months since first asking for a refund What's my next step? I can't believe my family is in this situation at Christmas time, I remember going to the beach in mid-summer the day I first asked!!!! Please help guys... ==IGN SQ42 Exlcusive== IcarusUpHigh posted:The IGN teaser is up Scruffpuff posted:Wow - a "cinematic" but no loving game. I'm not sure I can handle this unforeseen turn of events. Bootcha posted:Where's the CryEngine logo? Jobbo_Fett posted:Why yes, I am the pilot of this craft, watch me jump down 13 steps just to break my ankles. Colostomy Bag posted:What a confusing clusterfuck of an alpha trailer. TheAgent posted:the last time someone ran a marketing thing on IGN it was almost $50,000 for a simple highlight Taintrunner posted:THERE'S NO loving FOOTAGE. OF SPACESHIPS. FLYING. IN THEIR loving. SPACE GAAAAAAAAMMMMMEEEEE Scruffpuff posted:The flying ship is a photoshop and the footage is not in-game CrazyLoon posted:I tried to imagine what it'd be like for CIG to be my dentist, but realized it'd probably just be some dude putting me on a neverending waiting list while sending me breath mint to help with the stench of my already compromised teeth as I slowly die from bacterial infection or somesuch. Beet Wagon posted:new splash page. Focuses heavily on mocap and melted faces. In fact the picture of spaceships doing space things is the only image that isn't animated if you mouse over it, because there is in fact no gameplay. Scruffpuff posted:So CIG put a conversation "tree" (which appears to be an opportunity to play the tutorial) over the unskippable non-gameplay cinematic, and this guy sees it and says "NO IT'S THE INNER THOUGHT SYSTEM". Rad Russian posted:If any FPS engine basedgames taught me anything is that you can propel your tank to fly by firing the turret backwards. So I'd imagine there will be a goon space tank squadron spam firing backwards to fly the horde of tanks through space until we discover a poor citizen miner to gank. At which point we all surround him and then slowly rotate the turrets forward for 30 seconds of suspense. Scruffpuff posted:I imagine things at CIG must be awkward. It's hard to believe EVERYONE there has bad taste. So they poo poo out a trailer like this and all have to glance askew at each other, trying to dynamically gauge which ones realize it's pure distilled poo poo and which of them are fully down with the Kool-Aid.
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December Set 10 ==Holiday AtV is delayed 24 hours== CIG advertised their holiday show accross IGN and amoungst their fanbase. Only to cancel it 20 or 40mins before the scheduled time to go live. big nipples big life posted:CIG yanks the football away at the last second again. Colostomy Bag posted:What a trainwreck. tuo posted:Imagine not beeing able to show gameplay of your game after five years of development Cao Ni Ma posted:Seriously these guys were probably promised that they were going to have tomorrow off after working their asses off all week but nope Sarsapariller posted:Yesterday: reddit posted:Hi , huge french SC fan , concierge backer and all that poo poo , and i have to say im sad , not angry just sad . A Neurotic Corncob posted:an extremely star citizen holiday surprise Daztek posted:From reddit Mangoose posted:loving CIG, I've had the worst case of blueballs since their bullshit, boring, playing-it-safe anniversary stream and these assholes delay the holiday one. What could have been the cause for a delay at the last min? reddit posted:Hi guys, I just got off twitter with Jared, basically "technical difficulties" doesn't cover the issue. Burst water main, a Car accident, and I quote "that and more." Rad Russian posted:First it's technical difficulties. Then Jared says his house got flooded AND someone else got into an accident. Now someone made him delete those tweets. reddit posted:Could be a Goon psychopath's work. Wouldn't be surprised if one of their flock is stepping up the game. These people are dangerous and severely mentally ill, sooner or later they'll snap.. even harder than usual. Jared deletes the tweets and says those were methaphors Cao Ni Ma posted:Even without a presentation hilarity finds a way. Golli posted:Tomorrow's stream. XK posted:
reddit posted:After having a YEAR to make sure they got last year's holiday live stream right? (You didn't forget last year, now, did you?) TheAgent posted:like why you even delete the tweets unless you realized you 100% hosed up lol TheLastRoboKy posted:I would have believed the broken water mains thing because CIG have never had a working pipeline in their existence. reddit posted:I went from showing everything to my friends to showing the occasional new ship. Every time I do though they ask "It is even a game yet?" and I have to shamefully say "No" only to be laughed at for paying money 3 years ago just to get a bunch of pretty pictures. reddit posted:Yeah I got burned by last year's stream. It was so bad I actually turned it off because I felt so embarrassed in front of my friends. I said I'll just update them about the game's progress when it happens... over a year later and I nearly made the same mistake again. Natron posted:I was disappointed at first with the delay from CIG, but now I realize that this is actually a miracle. FYI whatever they end up showing is all pre-recorded big nipples big life posted:This is even more damning tbh CrazyLoon posted:Basically what he's saying is: "We want to have shitizens comment on it live, while we also want it all staged and pre-recorded so that we get to pull off whatever smoke and mirrors we want and look like badasses." Blue On Blue posted:so their live stream isn't even live, it's just them playing a recorded stream... lol reddit posted:This doesn't even make sense. So CIG is telling all of us that they haven't finished filming and editing the video? And they only knew about that 40 minutes before it was supposed to air? It makes the cancellation even more disturbing. People need to be fired over this. I would fire the VP of marketing. Nepotism will stop them from firing that person though. reddit posted:Wow, they couldn't air a previously recorded show? loving incompetence AND arrogance. Cao Ni Ma posted:Even without a presentation hilarity finds a way. ==Tanks== CIG is selling a tank now, for their game that everybody incorrectly thought took place in space. Thoatse posted:Who's up for a game of 'where's Archer'? Beet Wagon posted:well gently caress me that's just about as blatant as it gets. Beet Wagon posted:So they hosed with perspective and added some greeblies to the back of the turret but basically everything else lines up, including the major identifying marks on the chassis and the cowl over the barrel of the gun. Cao Ni Ma posted:I thought it was reaching at first but then I saw the camera and rocket pod things. I can't believe they are still archering things to this day. Golli posted:Score another one for the goon forensics team. D_Smart posted:https://www.pcinvasion.com/star-citizen-now-selling-tanks Toops posted:I see it more as a leader whose every decision, every action is moving towards one goal: building video game that will be considered fun by the people who play it. How do you do that? By creating an environment where working code is built as often as possible to provide gameplay feedback, and that feedback drives your development iterations. The technical poo poo doesn't matter as an end in itself. "- moons" is not progress unless it yields fun, playable content that feels good. Now, contrast that with CIG. They roll out some shiny bullshot trailer of a planetary landing, with no grounding in anything playable or real, and in Chris's mind, that's literally Mission Accomplished. Meanwhile, 11 months later when you finally get a build, you just noclip down to a wet towel draped over a sphere for 16 minutes at 8.3 FPS, and when you get there, there's loving nothing to do. PederP posted:Witcher 3 had Charles Dance as a voice actor, and reaped tons of publicity from this, without having to do mocap or face scans. Mocap should be a tool for animators. It can be really difficult to get some motions right without mocap. I remember an episode from a game I worked on where the animators needed mocap of dumping a body in a dumpsters (not the the easiest thing to manually animate so it looks right). Problem was that humans are actually pretty heavy, so most people can't really do this without having it look silly. So a really big guy and a really small woman did the mocap, and animators did their magic to make it fit the body sizes in-game. Jobbo_Fett posted:STAR CITIZEN EXPLAINED IN ONE GIF! Mne nravitsya posted:A song honor of the Christmas Event
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December Set 11 CIG airs their SQ42 video and label it a "verticle slice" https://youtu.be/tpVzJiarjvc (video: 2 hours of mostly walking around) https://youtu.be/qcHAfaQh3QE (video: Director's Commentary) It is pretty boring so here are some decent timestamps: Sarsapariller posted:Timestamps: Brazilianpeanutwar posted:double insta ban big nipples big life posted:commando is probably an autoban word which is as hell skaboomizzy posted:"This is a make-or-break stream to convince thousands of backers not to bail on this scam, so be sure to wear your nerdiest t-shirt." spacetoaster posted:LOL drat Dirty Ape posted:"This is very very early stage stuff....." G0RF posted:Chris Roberts in January of 2017: "Squadron 42 will be finished this year. Probably." spacetoaster posted:That must be the water main that exploded yesterday. Blue On Blue posted:This is poo poo. I noticed a few animation jumps already. I don't see shadows on characters. And yes now the player is casually strolling through the reactor room for some loving reason ? Oh wait simply so they could show off the ai and their scripted canned dialog BigglesSWE posted:WE HAVE MOP REPEAT THE MOP HAS LANDED History Comes Inside! posted:SPACE MOP IS IN skaboomizzy posted:Mopping CONFIRMED Beet Wagon posted:faces are hard happyhippy posted:I call it progress to be honest. Beet Wagon posted:https://i.imgur.com/AWHZLyr.mp4 D_Smart posted:My 42-part thread on wot I thought of the stream thatguy posted:
G0RF posted:In light of today’s livestream, I still think Squadron 42 is an absolute black hole project sucking light, gas and heat away from Star Citizen and bending time itself, slowing it, crushing it. ewe2 posted:Have a punky Xmas with this end-of-year all-notes-must-go offering: Amarcarts posted:It's such a cringefest when they showcase "stealth kills" because it's very obvious they're doing it to hide how bad the enemy AI is. They did the same thing a year ago with the video on the desert planet and the "Sand Nomads". Beet Wagon posted:There's actually a very simple explanation for a lot of the graphical oddities in the demo Tokamak posted:IT BEGINS NoNotTheMindProbe posted:https://clips.twitch.tv/RealRudePistachioAliens (video: FTR sits down in pilots seat, without pressing anything it slingshots itself into the nearest wall) El Grillo posted:Is it just me or was even the audio in that SQ42 demo loving terrible? It was all over the place. And why are they using lightning sound like all the time in the background. Not even when they flew into the weird space lightning bit, I mean just on the big carrier at the beginning there was loads of lightning noise. And the score was so heavy and overblown the whole goddamn time, even when they were just flying along in a straight line for 3 minutes it would build up as if some epic thing was happening on screen... But it wasn't. Beer4TheBeerGod posted:So I caught up with the thread, and I'm about 10 minutes in to the demo. ==3.0 available to all backers finally== tuo posted:Shitizens: Chris Roberts is a perfectionist, and he won't show SQ42 before it's perfect XK posted:https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/944379864861298689 Virtual Captain fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Dec 24, 2017 |
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December Set 12 ==Suck Cost Galaxy== Bootcha posted:Merry Christmas... Bootcha posted:Oh poo poo you forgot to check your stocking... ==Chris on Spectrum== A Neurotic Corncob posted:Chris has made a rare appearance on his weird discord knock-off in order to provide the base with some fresh talking points for the new year. XK posted:
Scruffpuff posted:CR's little holiday diatribe is nice because it reveals his misunderstanding of what's wrong. His entire post was all about performance this, FPS that, and so on. Dusty Lens posted:It's good to see that they're giving some consideration to the idea of shifting away from a model that stream all data everywhere at once to the player regardless of location. XK posted:Chris's Christmas message: nnnotime posted:
Virtual Captain posted:CIG has what, 15-30% of their ships flyable, I'm guessing >10% of the player items/armor they envision for the full release. They have no idea why performance is garbage with just this small set of assets. MoMA help me out; what fantasy land do you reside in that this starts working and more than 10 players can engage in complex twitch combat? Have you already admitted to yourself that this project will never see a 30 person battle? Scruffpuff posted:I guess we've finally reached the final stage. Chris never had a vision, and nobody else at CIG knows what Star Citizen is. Their plan appears to be to take a bunch of assets and dump them in a box: D_Smart posted:I knew croberts had balls. But I had no idea they were Platinum. I just read his latest. Wow. Not only is he blaming gamers for doing precisely the features he sold them, but also managed to blame *them* for the server issues. Dusty Lens posted:
Dusty Lens posted:Let's flashback to when CIG was first rolling out their cash shop and people (before the narrative was given enough time to shift) reacted very poorly to the system that remains in place to this day. BluesShaman posted:
A Neurotic Corncob posted:That spectrum thread is great, backers detail just how broken the game is, Chris and Toni throwing nonsense words at them until they are appeased, backers then fawning over them for taking the time to do "work" on Christmas. Star Citizen is good. D_Smart posted:I spent 15 mins in that thread. I didn't know what to expect. Then I realized that, for as much as we take this to be a joke, this - this - is a loving cult. Can you imagine what would happen if EA, Activision et al pulled this poo poo? juggalo baby coffin posted:
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Mr Fronts posted:CR: I would like to point out that ever since I got the legal threat from Skelling I have been working on this response. I worked on this until 5am last night, and a couple more hours this morning in the UK, where I am currently am in preparation for ATV in a week from Saturday. Conservatively its taken me about eight hours to write. This is time I could have spent working on the game instead of dealing with a Crytek instigated drama. And this is really what annoys me that their silly lawsuits occasionally gain traction and pull me away from the very thing I prefer to do and the very thing everyone wants me to do and the very thing Crytek accuses me of not doing CHANGING THE ENGINE/NOT CHANGING THE ENGINE (-note -check with Ortwin which one I should go with)! By constantly nagging, writing warning letters and soliciting solicitors in the background to enforce a dumb old licensing agreement, Crytek is waging guerrilla warfare on my time, the time of other key executives, and the peace of mind of our employees and backers. The Titanic posted:I have to believe that somewhere in CIG high command, somebody has come to the realization that the mmo is never going to happen without an enormous, very lengthy total rewrite. What they built so far may be good for Sq42 drop-in/drop-out coop with like 4 friends, but that’s about it. Scruffpuff posted:
PederP posted:Even if Star Citizen had the best technical and managerial leadership in the world, it still could not achieve what they want with the current generation of engines. The ambition and scale they boast so much about does not "merely" require skillfully adapting current technology. It requires a paradigm shift applied to an entirely new engine. kw0134 posted:Pleadings, rulings, motions, etc., are public information and will be available to people with PACER accounts a day after it's filed with the court. The response to the complaint can be more or less a single page with Ortwin scribbling in crayon "lol no" to all the allegations and that ought to suffice for the purposes of entering a response and avoiding a default. Of course the proper way to do this is to lay an appropriate foundation for your defense, and there are certain things you must plead at this time or it's waived (jurisdictional flaws, e.g.) but CIG can clownshow the case for a little while longer with the bare minimum needed. Combat Theory posted:A friend who would like to stay anonymous felt compelled to write an effortpost about the performance situation in star citizen 3.0 and CIGs future outlook. Propagandist posted:'Twas the night before Paarpmas, and all through the 'Verse,
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December mini-Set 13Bootcha posted:Thankfully, you don't have glitch in order to travel to this here youtube video... reddit posted:Unlike Chris, I actually write code for a living, and for many years applied that in the gaming industry. I have multiple AAA titles under my belt. You won’t believe any of that, same as you won’t believe that Star Citizen has already technologically failed. But I don’t care about your beliefs beyond marveling at their lunacy. All the evidence you need is right in front of you. Go play Star Citizen! It’s always been utter unplayable poo poo and it always will be. Spiderdrake posted:
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reddit posted:This is not your normal subreddit by a long shot the outright denial of things that go wrong with this project and the lack of people being self aware is more like a cult than a fan base. Also the hate that comes from here if you talk about refunds or anything negative about the project is nothing short of toxic, although I guess fan is short for fanatic and this subreddit takes that meaning to 12. Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Well I'm going to try and play 3.0 again. Rad Russian posted:It's also not OK to hide behind "it's alpha" in almost 2018 when the game was supposed to be delivered in 2014. Either Croberts is an incompetent manager who can't estimate project dates and he does not understand development, or he's an incompetent manager that can't execute or deliver. For Shitizens it's somehow neither and he's great at everything. ==No head bug== There is a bug where the players head disappears and chat no longer works if you look at mobi-glass without a helmet or something. Star Citizen: I have no head and I must chat
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I just wanted to say that you're doing an enourmous public service by summarising the best posts and I really appreciate it!
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December Set 14Bootcha posted:Terrible decisions are a part of Chris Roberts history... Bootcha posted:
Bootcha posted:I hope this video is everything you dreamed it would be. G0RF posted:Squadron never should’ve tried to be more. It was only ever something the minority of a 700,000 member customer base wanted. And most are owed it now for free anyway. Klyith posted:I dunno, as always with the Crobbler there are two good explanations. G0RF posted:POLYGON: Star Citizen’s 3.0 update is finally here Virtual Captain posted:Persistent and account bound invisible character. Renders the game unplayable. Sarsapariller posted:
D_Smart posted:He's a moron, and a coward. This is the Shillizen who backed out of debating (he would have been crushed, of course) me live on GameTalkLive a few weeks ago. AP posted:I can't watch Montoya, it's painful. Darwin would be fascinated by the declining numbers of Citizens, survival of the dumbest. AP posted:https://www.twitch.tv/videos/213011256?t=57m38s AP posted:https://www.twitch.tv/videos/213011256?t=24m50s Beer4TheBeerGod posted:
The Titanic posted:Star Citizen wants to be an mmo, of which they have no groundwork set. They are significantly longer away from anything close to Elite for this feature alone. They can, of course, dump the mmo aspect and make it a small-scale arena game with friends, but I have a feeling that would be hugely negative for them at this point. reddit posted:So I recently got a new computer and I got Star Citizen, my frames were ok in the hangar but when I played in the SC Universe thing it was unplayable, it took a year to get out of the bed alone. So I was wondering if upgrading my RAM from 8GB to 16GB will help as long as moving the game onto a SSD. TheLastRoboKy posted:
Scruffpuff posted:So my wife has caught up with the thread. She was only peripherally aware of this whole debacle through me, but for some reason she had time on her hands while I was at work, and she dove into the terrible secret of space. G0RF posted:this is all so great. Republicanus posted:Good afternoon to all the SC fans furiously posting about some lone critic on twitter and Goons "ruining everything" Beer4TheBeerGod posted:
ewe2 posted:Remix! ewe2 posted:It's a new year. Let's bring everyone really down. thatguy suggested this parody and suppled most of the lyrics. G0RF posted:I don't know that I ever dropped this into the thread but in doing some hard drive clean-up I came back across it and figured it would be worth sharing. It's an excerpt from a pretentious, unfinished multi-chapter monsterpost called "The Malaise" that futzed about with Social Science, Marketing Theory, and Fundamentals of Game Design. Much of which is common-sense to most here but still seemed worth putting down for the newer visitors. illectro posted:I love the fact that I can post unfiltered SC gameplay and simultaneously be accused of being a paid RSI shill and Derek Smart troll. Mr.Tophat posted:Chris awaits the accountant's final measure of the books with trepidation. "You are bankrupt," the account says slowly as he places a mug to his lips and sips thoughtfully. Chris' face is aghast, all manner of horrors playing upon his features as the dreams shatter and everything turns to FUD. Mr.Tophat posted:"Did you hear that?" Derek asks, "I was right!" Mr.Tophat posted:Chris Roberts having to explain to a shitizen what the outcome of the Crytek lawsuit means Mr.Tophat posted:"For wasting the time of everyone for a period lasting longer than two weeks, Mister Smart, I am hereby sentancing you to an unusual and perhaps cruel punishment. While you are indeed correct that Chris Roberts and those associated within him and his enterprise did attempt and in large parts succeed to dupe and con their audience, you have done much to frustrate those who would seek entertainment and satisfaction from this entire debacle. I sentence you to spend fourteen days in isolation, in a specially designed cell which has absolutely no echo and a gramophone." ComfyPants posted:With the increasing jank that Star Citizen piles on, it seems that we've all come full circle. It's only fair. DapperDon posted:
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Latin Pheonix posted:So it looks like some people on Reddit have pinpointed the reason (or, at least, one of the reasons) that FPS tanks way worse than even Star Citizen's lovely engine should tank. It turns out that if you have a ship in flight-ready mode, full of cargo and open one of the cargo doors the server shits itself and FPS drops to single digit numbers for everyone. Beet Wagon posted:Happy New Year, Goonailures. My gift to you is a(nother) bad video, featuring Kayak and dead-faced spacemans. TheAgent posted:btw I spent today and tonight showing PSVR to people who have never, ever played VR and one of the gals on RE7 started freaking out and I was like "ok I got this, I beat this before" and I freaked the gently caress out too because holy poo poo in VR that poo poo is loving scary as hell TheAgent posted:fyi from what I've been hearing in hushed tones, chris is loving livid with bootcha, beer and this entire thread TheAgent posted:
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December Set 15G0RF posted:Oh dear, Charlie Hall is taking a break from telling readers about how Star Citizen is leap-frogging Elite and actually describing his player experience with 3.0. It actually makes for good reading in places, though the deferential interjections seem tonally incongruent. SelenicMartian posted:So, i decided to watch the director commentary version. SelenicMartian posted:And how the gently caress did I miss the protagonist having a hiccup every time he gets a weapon SelenicMartian posted:Holy poo poo The scene at the hangar when the prisoners arrive. SelenicMartian posted:Subtlety, motherfuckers! SelenicMartian posted:
SelenicMartian posted:'That's a combination of a couple of NPC faces plus one of our HR... our HR directors' geometry.' SelenicMartian posted:Chris promises Batman-style scanning later on. Virtual Captain posted:
Erenthal posted:it reminds me of the directors commentary that you could activate in half-life 2, and how they explained the neat tricks and psychological methods they used to ensure that the player always looked in the right direction when something cool happened Zzr posted:I hope B'Tak reads the thread. Because I'm coming for you. G0RF posted:If only CIG’s Community Management team had thought of this before. I guess the Intern That Reads This Thread didn’t pass those tips along two years ago for some reason. G0RF posted:
Scruffpuff posted:Pac-Man designed by Chris Roberts wouldn't have pellets, a maze, or ghosts, just a disc janking randomly around a black screen. Oh, and the pixel would be blue. spacetoaster posted:I did not know that citizencon had a photo booth that posted photos online. https://gcphotobooth.smugmug.com/Green-Screen-Events/Citizencon-2014/Citizencon-PhotoBooth-Prints/ That's it for 2017! Thinking about an audio/youtube version for 2018 so I can waste more time on Star Citizen. Virtual Captain fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Jan 2, 2018 |
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January Set 1 ==Derek and Montoya get into a fight on twitter== Montoya is the leader of TEST, the biggest remaining Star Citizen Organization or something. He gets $388 a month from patreon donors. (tweet: "In light of the recent tragedy of an innocent man being killed after being doxxed and swatted, we as a community need to come together and condemn those who use doxxing as a means of intimidation!") (tweet: "I fear for my life and that of my wife and two small children when @dsmart incites this kind of behavior!") (tweet: "@dsmart has now publicly threatened to dox me after I said I was fearful for the safety of my family and I don't want to be doxxed. After what happened in Kansas I am very concerned! Hugging my kids a lot today.") D_Smart posted:Now that Montoya has forced my hand, I'm not going to spend time and resources on a single lawsuit, seeing as I've been working on this for months now. It's a complete mystery how /r/ds just closed up shop. Virtual Captain posted:
CrazyTolradi posted:Will Montoya lose custody of his JPEGs? Potato Salad posted:Guys im fearful for my life, hugging my jpegs a lot today The Titanic posted:I wish I knew why people bang their heads against the Derek wall. They know what’s going to happen because Derek has done it to many people who have went toe to toe with him. Contingency posted:I can see it being a hamfisted attempt at the following: Beet Wagon posted:Also lol if your first major move after talking up how you're gonna go toe to toe with a crazy old man on the internet is to scream "I'm afraid for my life" on twitter like a bitch, tagging every journalist you can think of. juggalo baby coffin posted:that montoya video with him green screened into his space ship with a bunch of stripper stock footage is maybe the most pathetic thing ive ever seen G0RF posted:Remember that time half a year ago when Chris said 3.0 was being delayed to add extra polish and bugfixing because they expected a lot of new and returning players? Toops posted:Exactly totally agree. The truth, is, you can kludge together a blob of software that appears to do just about anything. Sometimes, that's the right thing to do. Usually, it's a terrible thing to do, because it only yields the illusion of progress. Now the expectations are high, because you cranked out this "awesome" thing in a small amount of time that barely works in demo and falls down hard in production. When the business goes "We want more! We got hot new customers in the pipeline!! OH!! And fix the bugs, customers are complaining that poo poo don't work!!!!" they are understandably confused when you say "well, actually we need to go back and actually do the thing we just finished properly." They'll say "Why didn't you do it right the first time!?!?" and you'll say "Uhh, dumbass, because you gave us ridiculous deadlines and we kind of mumbled that it wasn't possible but said 'OK, I guess' at the end." G0RF posted:In unrelated news, looks like Sandi has another movie in the can. A film starring Eric Roberts and shot (it would appear) this fall. Rabelais D posted:Getting paid to do nothing while pursuing an acting career is one of the perks of being a successful game developer's wife, don't you guys know anything about game development? Scruffpuff posted:
PederP posted:Thing is that space / sci-fi is a great setting for a game. Just like high fantasy, grimdark, cyberpunk, many historical periods, etc. Not all settings work equally well for all genres. Space Opera is great for 4X, difficult for Grand Strategy, and Stellaris does a pretty darn good job at being what it is, imo, by using 4X elements to address aspects where it is a difficult setting for Grand Strategy. Your mileage may vary. But for me that's one of the main reasons I enjoy it, and I have difficulty getting hooked by Space Opera 4X in general. reddit posted:Honestly, I'd rather see the grief now when CiG can work out solutions to mitigate it, than once the game goes live. The turrets at Ollisar are a start. Once Subsumption is ready to tackle policing, we'll see some greater challenges for would-be griefers. reddit posted:It'll be interesting to see how they handle the difference between "legitimate piracy" (piracy that is engaging and brings immersion to the game albeit frustrating) and just plain old asshatitude. People would poop their pants if they incorporated it - but I think they need to add something to the extent of not being able to play the game for, I dunno, 12 hours if you get caught by the authorities after blowing up ship or stealing ships several times in a short period of time. Jonny Nox posted:So is subsumption supposed to be code for magick? It's like some of these people have a child's perception about what goes into even a simple decision. Othin posted:The thing about Star Citizen is that at this point is that it has gone on for so long and generated so much insanity that people think you are lying or exaggerating when you try to explain it. Like any one story from this would be hard to believe. Five+ years worth is just too much. Mr Fronts posted:Pacer update... Cao Ni Ma posted:
D_Smart posted:It's more complex than that. Read my just unleashed Tweet storm Solarin posted:
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A Neurotic Corncob posted:Charlie Hall has some breaking news abouut the videogame star citizen Bofast posted:I never thought I would turn the lyrics of a Dolly Parton song into something about an Intel bug and Star Citizen, but here we are
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January Set 2AP posted:https://www.twitch.tv/videos/215061920?t=01h19m53s (video: In today's exciting episode, Twerk17 talks about how Electronic Arts is more accountable than CIG) hot balls man no homo posted:
Scruffpuff posted:I'm filling out paperwork for a surgery, and there is a question that says "Do you have an internal nerve stimulator?" I asked my wife what that was, and she said, "Apparently this clinic gets a lot of patients from the Stimpire." BobHoward posted:So the funny thing about seeing commandos pinning so many hopes on subsumption, while claiming SC is never-done-before cutting edge stuff, is that subsumption is something I first learned about during an undergrad robotics project course. TheAgent posted:
AP posted:https://www.twitch.tv/videos/215225889?t=04h13m48s (video: CryTek_Legal_Team follows twitch streamer) peter gabriel posted:The name of the CIG's law firm is [POTATO] Dusty Lens posted:
juggalo baby coffin posted:so star citizen, the 'game' that exists, is a bunch of assets poorly imported into the demo crytek made 5 years ago right? Ramadu posted:https://i.imgur.com/s6dNobO.mp4 Rabelais D posted:I was wondering what Chinese gamers think about Star Citizen so I found quite a popular "ask" thread with someone wondering how people view the game. Here's a quick and dirty translation of the most recent reply (from a month ago). I don't think i quite understand the final line but it's funny anyway. Toops posted:Look, we can't on one hand claim that CIG habitually lies, then turn right around and take "We have 400 people working for us!" as fact. We don't get to pick and choose what data are reliable. If they lie, then we need hard evidence to form a working theory. If CIG's word is no good, then we don't really have much to go on, as evidenced by literal years of this thread "calling" CIG's bankruptcy, and yet here they are. EminusSleepus posted:Yes the biggest cost now is salary, last time it was Ben's food allowance peter gabriel posted:If GIG admit to using cryengine then crytek win because CIG are idiots Gosts posted:My magnum opus is done AP posted:
DapperDon posted:MoMa stop it. I mean just stop it right now. This is embarrassing how stupid you think we all are here. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING at all in the lawsuit that has a drat thing to do with if CryTek was negligent in any way, shape, or form. If so then the there would have been mention of it just out of a sense of Covering the Corporate rear end and don't think for one moment that Chris or Ortwin would be posting that poo poo to every outlet on the internet to defend their rear end like he did when the Couttes loan was discovered. Do you think a firm like Skadden is going to chain themselves to such and embarrassing turn of events like defending a client that nuked their own contract by negligence? Any paralegal on planet earth would destroy their lawsuit with prejudice by responding to the complaint on day 1 with that little termination clause on the very contract they are disputing. That would be devastating to a firm of Skaddens caliber. Now I am convinced 100% that you are not in the legal profession nor are you a part of CIG in any way. In fact, I am really leaning on the possibility that you are in fact a shared account from those brainwashed fellows over at Relay. Because your post here reeks of Erris's defense bulletpoints. Stick to talking about kickstarter belts and booze because as of now you lost all the little bit of cred your little gimmick here was giving you. ==Chris is inviting backers to have dinner for $350== A Neurotic Corncob posted:
Preen Dog posted:They must be in great financial shape if Crobbler will do tours of the dream factory for $20k. PederP posted:This kind of tour isn't to bring in the participation fee, which barely covers the costs of arranging this. The point of the fee is to weed out backers who don't have open wallets. The point of the tour is to get them to spend more - it's a way to build confidence, create a feeling of belonging to a special inner circle, talk to high-spending backers about what they want, etc. I've seen the exact same kind of thing in the financial sector. Brokers, hedge funds, wealth managers, etc. do these events on a regular basis. D_Smart posted:WAIT!!!!! Taintrunner posted:How loving insane do you have to be to sell tours of a game dev studio that has never released a loving game for the loving ridiculous price of $350 a pop. Yeah, great idea Sandi. You’re a real fuckin’ marketing genius. Taintrunner posted:Hey remember when EA flew out a bunch of Youtubers or whatever as part of a “Gamechangers” program for Battlefront 2 as a promise to listen to their feedback and make the game not a steaming pile of poo poo on release? It was a steaming pile of poo poo on release. DogonCrook posted:Its actually 3 payments of 350 if you are concierge lol. I came here to lol at the as seen on tv pricing. A Neurotic Corncob posted:https://www.pcinvasion.com/cig-holding-star-citizen-special-event-concierge-backers-charging Bootcha posted:okay seriously iron buns posted:Star Citizen: A big fat $350 nothingburger dinner Daztek posted:https://robertsspaceindustries.com/Schedule-report-05012018 Gravity_Storm posted:So they are literally going to deliver NOTHING this year. Virtual Captain posted:This is pathetic even for CIG. Thoatse posted:
Mokinokaro posted:Nothing Works on PTU
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January Set 3 ==CIG responds to CryTek complaint== 13 pdf response: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mPjfXrjAf9RUq3_5cJgd-hF-I5XoCQta Leonard French discussion of response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNJgrqQlim8 boviscopophobic posted:Legal docs (not doxx), grab them while they're hot. Includes CIG's response, a motion to dismiss, and a copy of the GLA. IncredibleIgloo posted:This is the first time we expected something in 2 weeks and CIG delivered early! iospace posted:Ok, so here's my take on the matter. I'm not a lawyer, but whatever. There's 5 things being claimed here. Ghostlight posted:
EggsAisle posted:Waitaminute, what's this? less than three posted:Can't omit their "You're suing the wrong shell company so it should be dismissed." EggsAisle posted:Interesting stuff! The bits from the GLA that stand out to me so far are: (note: I have no legal training or expertise.) AP posted:RSI is proud to reveal that we never had any license agreement with Crytek, as part of this ip infringement legal case. Abuminable posted:Ladies and Gentleman of the Jury, please rise as we present the prosecution's surprise witness: Dr. Derek K. Smart. The Court advises the Jury to please permit the esteemed witness to loving finish. AP posted:I'm calling the mother of all tweetstorms for today. Loxbourne posted:I'm not an IP litigator (although I do know one who works in CA and who I might be able to get to weigh in), so I'm not going to comment on the merits. I'm going to comment on the drafting. quote:one of CIG's lawyers: Xaerael posted:you'd have to be a total retard to think that CIG's version was fact. "Crytek LITERALLY gave us CryEngine FOREVER, and no one else is EVER allowed to use it!" Sabreseven posted:I find the way he printed his name and position within the company even funnier tbh and bonus points for not knowing what the date was: MedicineHut posted:This may sound a bit flippant but afaik development of SQ42 started in 2011-2012, with CryEngine. Not in 2016 with Lumberyard. Lumberyard switch was announced in December 2016 whereas SQ42 carved out and marketed separately from the Game was announced on February 2016. Beet Wagon posted:So if I understand this correctly, it seems like one of their main tactics going up against one of the best law firms in existence is the very same tactic they used to try and avoid giving a bunch of neckbeard idiots their money back. A tactic which failed against people with little to no understanding of the law, who were only in the fight for a couple hundred bucks. Against Skadden. Zzr posted:Furthermore, CIG/RSI/15 others didn't use lumberyard or even cryengine, because there is no game. TheAgent posted:omg there is a section arguing that this is tort not contract law and I am loving dying TheAgent posted:there's almost no way I can follow almost anything they are saying D_Smart posted:OK, I'm done. Now to review it and fired it off. Seriously, aside from my own bias, I was hoping that RSI/CIG had something (like the Ortwin waiver) which would have at least made this a worthy fight. By dayum, they have like...nothing. At all. Tippis posted:
AngusPodgorny posted:I'm going to take the minority view and say some of the arguments are at least colorable (not going to disagree on the writing, which is crap): trucutru posted:So no one gets to use cryengine do develop games (or space games) while SC is in development? How does *that* work? Nyast posted:Well, that's if they argue that "only us in the entire world have the rights to use Cryengine no matter the product". Which is completely stupid. IncredibleIgloo posted:Skadden: Mr. Freyermeyer, are you saying that the standard Crytek GLA gives each client the exclusive rights to use of the Crytek game engine, excluding all other companies from using the product? FailureToReport posted:Ugh, that Leonard guy is soooo terrible to watch. TheAgent posted:I'm only going to be upset if this doesn't go to an actual courtroom TheAgent posted:"god who wrote this GLA, fuckin dumb rear end crytek lol" D_Smart posted:My opinionated analysis of the CIG lawsuit response EightAce posted:Let's not forget that Ben lesnick ( developer ). Played all the sq42 missions long before they switched to lumberyard. He said as much AngusPodgorny posted:CIG's argument about the limitations provision is a loser. The first sentence basically says that neither CIG nor Crytek can be liable for any kind of damages, except if there's been intentional or grossly negligent (basically extremely careless) conduct. This is why Crytek littered their amended complaint with 'intentional.' Under a plain reading of the provision, CIG is on the hook for any intentional conduct. kilus aof posted:Cultists take headline development to the next level. G0RF posted:Once again I found myself watching Brian Chambers conversation with Batgirl about the Lumberyard switch and noticed a couple of new things. Scruffpuff posted:My theory, which my wife also shares, is that the entire thing is a delay while they prepare to scuttle the company. This upcoming paid "tour" might be an alternate way of doing that - give your Amway pitch of newly created shares to the most gullible of backers, then dip. TheAgent posted:my in expert legal opinion: PederP posted:Against better judgement I will chip in. IANAL, but I have licensed game engines for development and have worked with engine development as well, so I do know a bit. (I have also represented myself in an actual court of law, which was dumb and shall never be repeated). The "exclusive" parts are poorly written, but generally exclusive is used with other wording to give a license which cannot be freely sub-licensed, which cannot be transferred, which does not prevent usage of other engines/middleware/libraries, and which does not prevent the licensor from licensing to other parties. So CIG and CryTek both are trying to have the poorly written contract mean something very different than the original intent and what is normal in licensing. Anglo-Saxon law is weird, with your insistence on sticking to the letter, ignoring the 'bonus pater' concept, etc. so I have no idea what the court will end deciding is the effective meaning of this terribly phrased contract. ==Good summaries of CIG's response== Enchanted Hat posted:Not a lawyer, but I sometimes have to read contracts. SomethingJones posted:Spent most of the night reading the GLA, skimming the thread and reading Derek's stuff here - https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/949626014367469568.html Loxbourne posted:Now both parties have filed their statements of case, we're firmly into the territory of "will this argument fly with a court?". That's subjective and dependant entirely on the judge and jury's own reactions on the day. We can comment on the evidence, caselaw, etc (and I think there's plenty of scope for a good effortpost or three about the caselaw FFKS are citing on the meaning of "exclusive"), but we are not qualified to say which argument is likely to win. Even if we were, every lawyer's seen a totally bullshit argument unexpectedly work, or an ironclad one fail. reddit posted:So after 6 months of sheer hell ive finally just today managed to get a refund, and it's all thanks to you guys.. Honestly i would have given up and maybe even been made homeless along with my newborn children if you guys hadn't shown me what to do, and given me continuing encouragement when it seemed it was all over. tooterfish posted:
G0RF posted:In other Batgirl news... ewe2 posted:Toastmannnnn Remix Time!
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January Set 4 ==AtV was all about a preview for the new website they are making== AP posted:In just a little over five years Cloud Imperium Games have created 1,016 youtube videos, 4 websites and 0 games. hot balls man no homo posted:"People are catching on that we're fudging the funding tracker to bolster backer confidence! But we can't remove it without arousing suspicion. What if we redid the whole website and omitted the tracker? Well that would be expensive and time consuming, but what other option do we have?" Cao Ni Ma posted:Its blowing my loving mind that they think that they'll be able to implement something they've never loving shown in 6 months when they still need to hammer out so much. G0RF posted:It’s pretty rich that an old “friend of Chris” was employed at Crytek at the time and was party to crafting Crytek’s confusingly written contracts. It seems beneath neither Chris nor Ortwin’s character to collude in a mutually beneficial act of contract sabotage. Martman posted:So we have one faction of goons who are true believers in the Failure of Star Citizen; they don't want this court case to meddle with something they've been waiting years for. And we have other goons who basically just like seeing CIG get hosed over, as long as it's their own fault. I love it. Jason Sextro posted:
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Crytek goes to court with a world-renown team of lawyers who literally write the book and the thing they are suing CIG for. TheAgent posted:crytek is a horrible fuckin company that had it's last love from PC gaming nerds a decade ago. they shouted "this, this is what PC gaming is about" over the coil whine of their strained and cum stained video cards running a mediocre FPS at ultra settings Beet Wagon posted:It appears all is not lost in BDSSEland TheAgent posted:bootcha you get your C&D and your notification of breached NDA yet SomethingJones posted:Crytek jumped on Chris's bandwagon in 2012 out of sheer desperation to have someone do something original with their jittery clunkyfuck fps engine and I will enjoy watching them gently caress each other over in court. Derek is all in on this lawsuit drama, and if it is settled before discovery with brown envelopes and multiple cheques from various shell companies (usual CIG style), Derek will be eating internet humble for the next ten years. Slow_Moe posted:Here is your lovely star citizen leaks rehosted: G0RF posted:What surely all of us agree on yet probably escapes the fiery, furious eyes of Ortwin and Chris is that the longer they protract and more fiercely they fight this lawsuit, the more they assure that the dominant CIG narrative of 2018 is “troubled project continues legal fight.” It seems obvious and mundane so of course it would probably escape their detection. Croberts68 posted:I have got all of you beat and it's not even by a little bit.
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VC, thanks for compiling these. You're doing the world a favor.
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January Set 5 ==Streetroller points to the bleachers== Streetroller posted:
thatguy posted:A second lawsuit has hit the thread. Scruffpuff posted:StreetRoller pops down a camera and ad-libs a speech with more screen presence, gravitas, better delivery and timing, natural charisma, better enunciation, and a more commanding performance than literally anything Chris Roberts has ever managed to poo poo out, and obviously better than anything Sandi has ever done. Tippis posted:I don't know. According to the description, you've got weird hands — you really think you stand a chance against a hand-wave master such as Chris? Pff. Think again. Streetroller posted:
Streetroller posted:I received money in my paypal account somehow, after being told I wasn't entitled. Colostomy Bag posted:I think the best part of his lawsuit is suing for triple damages. The Stimperor approves. Golli posted:I wonder. Scruffpuff posted:To me the best part is peeling away Chris' layers of sycophants and forcing him to face at least one person who doesn't think he's a visionary, knows he's not qualified, and knows he's a fraud. People like Chris generally can't handle that, which is why he busies himself flying all over, making a nuisance of himself, and immediately getting rid of anyone who sees him for what he is. This will be a fun vacation for him - a staredown with a guy who knows he's a talentless oval office, instead of crowds of cultists chanting his name while he lurches around on stage waving and spitting. Toops posted:
big nipples big life posted:(tweet: Shame on you @Crytek for being so petty, I’m so glad @RobertsSpaceInd has a great Co_Founder\BadassLawyer and Fellow Citizen as Ortwin Freyermuth.) Scruffpuff posted:
G0RF posted:EUROGAMER: Star Citizen, I am Disappointed comments posted:As a game developer, an illusion that I labored under for years is that you spend most of your time building an engine and then someone else comes along and scripts some missions on top of it relatively late in the day. Then I realized that's why I was making terrible games. The content is key and needs to inform the engine development. Where it sounds like SC is at, is a very bad place to be after 5 years.[/i] shrach posted:Foundry 42 Ltd filed their accounts today. These are early, since they reduced the accounting period. They cover the six month period from 1 January 2017 to 30 June 2017.
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# ? Jan 10, 2018 21:03 |
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Hey look, this whole thread is basically a tomb stone to the 200 bucks I threw at this in a massive stroke of incompetence and idiocy I had several years ago. This has been a joy to read. Really lightening up my work day.
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Ice Fist posted:Hey look, this whole thread is basically a tomb stone to the 200 bucks I threw at this in a massive stroke of incompetence and idiocy I had several years ago. You should consider getting a refund, friend.
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Tane. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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i can't filter through all these non-recap posts can we please get a Recap recap already?? **You're doing the lord's work, VC Cheston fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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